What will the UK look like in 20 years?

steddyeddy · 28-11-2018 10:08PM #1

So the UK finally finds out Brexit is bad and they will be a poorer country under every deal or scenario the UK will be worse off post Brexit.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-wages-theresa-may-gdp-deal-eu-latest-analysis-a8655746.html

My question isn't really about Brexit as it looks like it's happening. I'm just wondering exactly how poor the UK will become in the next decade if they'll be worse off in every scenario. I think it's remarkable to hear government ministers saying that their actions have led the country to be worse off. All of this started from a rivalry between two old Etonians too.

CPTM · 28-11-2018 10:13PM

Literally nobody wants it to be like this. There will be another referendum imo. But they have to go through the political charade first.

So, Britain I believe will look the exact same.

steddyeddy · 28-11-2018 10:16PM

CPTM wrote: »

Literally nobody wants it to be like this. There will be another referendum imo. But they have to go through the political charade first.

So, Britain I believe will look the exact same.

To be honest that's not possible. They used to have respect on the world stage. If nothing this will serve to educate British people that they aren't a world power any more.

Dr. Bre · 28-11-2018 10:18PM

Like the UK..

badtoro · 28-11-2018 10:21PM

They'll still be moaning about the EU.

oceanman · 28-11-2018 10:22PM

cant see any major change, probably be slightly worse off in the short term but in the long term noting much will change, countries who trade with the uk will still trade with them including ourselves, Brexit or not..

TheValeyard · 28-11-2018 10:24PM

Hopefully it does not end up like that 'one second a day', Syrian video but in London.

NIMAN · 28-11-2018 10:27PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

If nothing this will serve to educate British people that they aren't a world power any more.

Many Brits will never accept that.

John Sacrimoni · 28-11-2018 10:28PM

Children of Men

DEFTLEFTHAND · 28-11-2018 10:29PM

What will the EU look like I wonder?

TheValeyard · 28-11-2018 10:30PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What will the EU look like I wonder?

Charles Babbage · 28-11-2018 10:32PM

In 2000, the Financial Times did a fake history article from the viewpoint of an encyclopedia in 2100 looking back on the 21st century.

One entry
O'Doherty, Padraig

Prime minister of the Irish Isles 2088-. The fifth Irish-born prime minister of the confederation established in 2040 by the Act of Union between the Republic of Ireland and the former United Kingdom.

The grandson of Liam O'Doherty, who oversaw the peaceful reunification of Ireland in 2020, and opened negotiations with the London government on a federal constitution for the Isles.

A scion of the family of artificial intelligence entrepreneurs behind Ireland's startling economic performance during the 21st century, O'Doherty was elected on a manifesto promising to divert more economic assistance to the poor regions of southern England. The 32-year-old premier has simultaneously imposed tight new planning restrictions on all developments in the heavily overpopulated West of Ireland.

O'Doherty's Home Rule party is pledged to revisions of the 2040 constitution to give more powers to the regions, and specifically to allow the Westminster assembly to vary E-taxes by up to 3p in the pound. As a symbolic gesture to English politicians, funds have also been allocated to restore Nos 10 and 11 Downing Street as a regional museum.

From its original power base in Co Mayo, O'Doherty turned the Home Rule party into the dominant force in Isles' politics. It holds strong majorities in the confederation's prosperous Celtic regions, far outweighing its relative weakness in the old industrial constituencies of England.

steddyeddy · 28-11-2018 10:33PM

Well I live here with my Greek girlfriend and we're both noticing it's getting more racist.

steddyeddy · 28-11-2018 10:34PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What will the EU look like I wonder?

Relatively more progressive.

Kermit.de.frog · 28-11-2018 11:14PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What will the EU look like I wonder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swDpscmiXwY

CPTM · 28-11-2018 11:27PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

To be honest that's not possible. They used to have respect on the world stage. If nothing this will serve to educate British people that they aren't a world power any more.

Which bit of my point isn't possible? (Not asking in an agro way, just interested).

steddyeddy · 28-11-2018 11:43PM

CPTM wrote: »

Which bit of my point isn't possible? (Not asking in an agro way, just interested).

They simply can't go through an event like Brexit, become ecnomically destroyed and have the same view of themselves as a nation.

Atlantic Dawn · 28-11-2018 11:44PM

If they sign up to the current deal on offer they will rejoin the EU with in 10 years as it's a complete disaster, not a proper leave and not a proper stay.

timthumbni · 28-11-2018 11:55PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well I live here with my Greek girlfriend and we're both noticing it's getting more racist.

If you really feel that way perhaps it’s time to move. Are you being held against your will?

timthumbni · 29-11-2018 12:03AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well I live here with my Greek girlfriend and we're both noticing it's getting more racist.

Unlike other EU countries where everyone is getting on just fine and dandy with each other thankya.

Harry Palmr · 29-11-2018 12:06AM

It'll look a different shape because Scotland will not be part of it in all likelihood

Humphrey BoaGart · 29-11-2018 12:19AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What will the EU look like I wonder?

steddyeddy · 29-11-2018 12:31AM

timthumbni wrote: »

If you really feel that way perhaps it’s time to move. Are you being held against your will?

I will indeed Tim. I'll be ok for a job but the idiots who voted Brexit cost our lab 200k in funding. Next door's cancer research lab in our building had it's funding cut by 50%.

29-11-2018 12:31AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

They simply can't go through an event like Brexit, become ecnomically destroyed and have the same view of themselves as a nation.

Do you get invited to many parties?

timthumbni · 29-11-2018 12:37AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I will indeed Tim. I'll be ok for a job but the idiots who voted Brexit cost our lab 200k in funding. Next door's cancer research lab in our building had it's funding cut by 50%.

So you will be fine then.... and I’m sure there are plenty of countries elsewhere in the Eu where racial tensions aren’t rising that you will rush off to this new job in. Good luck.

29-11-2018 12:40AM

Was just thinking about this in one of the increasingly many crazy Brexit news revelations recently and 28 Days Later kept coming to mind.

I still don't think people fully get the historical magnitude of the populists taking over there. Future generations will have a much better awareness, even in 10 years time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCdRFMp8Xwo

nim1bdeh38l2cw · 29-11-2018 12:41AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well I live here with my Greek girlfriend and we're both noticing it's getting more racist.

There's no need to be racist towards the Greeks, she's your girlfriend after all! You should love each other.

Capt'n Midnight · 29-11-2018 12:41AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

If they sign up to the current deal on offer they will rejoin the EU with in 10 years as it's a complete disaster, not a proper leave and not a proper stay.

The choices are

Leave with no deal - some politicians say it will be OK eventually, The Bank of England say instant recession.
Yes that's exactly what they said.

Remain - let's hit the reset button and never speak of this again.

It would change the pecking order in the backstabbing race to become leader of a very damaged Tory party.

Transition deal - It's damn near Brexit In Name Only. The can gets kicked. The actual deal is deferred. The economy still takes a hit. The clock can't be turned back. They become a third party country, and to rejoin the EU means loosing the special privileges they and taking the Euro and Schengen.

If only the UK had someone like John Hume who put ordinary people ahead of everything regardless of the cost.

timthumbni · 29-11-2018 12:42AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Was just thinking about this in one of the increasingly many crazy Brexit news revelations recently and 28 Days Later kept coming to mind.

I still don't think people fully get the historical magnitude of the significance of populists taking over there. Further generations will, even in 10 years time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCdRFMp8Xwo

Zombies now too if you leave the EU. FFS.... lol.

29-11-2018 12:53AM

timthumbni wrote: »

Zombies now too if you leave the EU. FFS.... lol.

There's no need to argue anymore.

timthumbni · 29-11-2018 01:00AM

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no need to argue anymore.

I would take some people’s predictions on the UK here a bit like I would Liam Adams views on childminding. That is with a large pinch of sodium chloride.

What will the UK look like in 20 years?

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