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PTH2009 · 20-11-2018 03:09AM

Sum terrible acting for that backstage segment

"Get out of my face"

TimesArrow · 20-11-2018 03:10AM

“Roman has to answer to the man upstairs”

Whatever about Ambrose turning on Rollins on that night, using his cancer like this is just tasteless

TimesArrow · 20-11-2018 03:10AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Sum terrible acting for that backstage segment

"Get out of my face"

Woeful. Some local jobbers

Deeper Blue · 20-11-2018 03:14AM

TimesArrow wrote: »

“Roman has to answer to the man upstairs”

Whatever about Ambrose turning on Rollins on that night, using his cancer like this is just tasteless

That was disgraceful, up there with Paige mentioning Reid Flair's death.

PTH2009 wrote: »

Sum terrible acting for that backstage segment

"Get out of my face"

Saw that, thought it was hilarious.

TimesArrow · 20-11-2018 03:22AM

Obviously Nia and Tamina are pure ****e in every way but Honestly can’t stand these other two.. what’s the point of Sasha and bailey?.. no character whatsoever

That Maverick segment was bloody awful

JP Liz V1 · 20-11-2018 01:27PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

So at TLC is Braun vs Corbin in a TLC match. If Corbin wins he is permanent Raw GM, if he loses he loses all authority and Braun faces Lesner at royal rumble

Expect shenanigans of sorts in that match

I thought Steph already promised Braun a title match with Lesnar last week

ERG89 · 20-11-2018 02:27PM

TimesArrow wrote:

How many times have they mentioned dismemberment already?

The show has such a nasty tone at times, exploiting deaths and illnesses too.
The pissing thing is yet another example of the company using talents worse than others do. I can't imagine what Vince would do to with a Bobby Heenan now. Turned the AOP into a punchline too.
Rousey barely sold the beatdown from Survivor Series but she never sold it then either or all the chairshots, etc Lynch gave her. I know the company don't want to make her look weak but it just makes beatdowns pointless. I remember when that throat spot was a way to write off characters with injuries but now it looks as silly as Charlotte did taking ages to put the chair around her neck.

Rock Lesnar · 20-11-2018 03:15PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought Steph already promised Braun a title match with Lesnar last week

Yeah help team raw defeat smackdown at SS and he got his match, but that was a week ago to us, but in wwe land, that never happened

dusty bin · 20-11-2018 04:36PM

Sure, 20 mins after the end of the 10v10 elimination match in survivor series, it never happened according to the wwe.

johnnysmack · 20-11-2018 06:50PM

This Rollins Ambrose feud is incredibly boring

brinty · 20-11-2018 07:15PM

johnnysmack wrote:

This Rollins Ambrose feud is incredibly boring

I think they're building it nicely

CastorTroy · 20-11-2018 08:28PM

So was Ronda taking a dig at Becky or Brock?

20-11-2018 08:42PM

ERG89 wrote: »

The show has such a nasty tone at times, exploiting deaths and illnesses too.
The pissing thing is yet another example of the company using talents worse than others do. I can't imagine what Vince would do to with a Bobby Heenan now. Turned the AOP into a punchline too.
Rousey barely sold the beatdown from Survivor Series but she never sold it then either or all the chairshots, etc Lynch gave her. I know the company don't want to make her look weak but it just makes beatdowns pointless. I remember when that throat spot was a way to write off characters with injuries but now it looks as silly as Charlotte did taking ages to put the chair around her neck.

Same wirh ortons punt kick and kevin owens poweebomb in the apron spot

Floppybits · 20-11-2018 09:01PM

Sirsok wrote: »

Same wirh ortons punt kick and kevin owens poweebomb in the apron spot

I remember a time when being thrown over the top rope was practically a career ender.

Furious-Red · 20-11-2018 09:01PM

Sirsok wrote: »

Same wirh ortons punt kick and kevin owens poweebomb in the apron spot

Yea i remember when KO did it to Sami in NXT he was out for a few weeks but does it to Cena and he bounces back(just like the piledriver on the concrete during the nexus story)

TimesArrow · 20-11-2018 11:35PM

Interesting piece on the Roman Cancer controversy

https://prowrestling.net/site/2018/11/20/gleeds-blog-when-real-is-too-real/

Lord TSC · 26-11-2018 03:07PM

IC Title open challenge returns tonight!

Saw Mustafa Ali teasing himself.

But it will be Drew, won't it.

Furious-Red · 26-11-2018 03:09PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

IC Title open challenge returns tonight!

Saw Mustafa Ali teasing himself.

But it will be Drew, won't it.

Or Ziggler

J. Marston · 26-11-2018 03:11PM

Wyatt returned at the weekend so it might be him. I can't stand Wyatt though so hopefully not.

Rock Lesnar · 26-11-2018 03:13PM

J. Marston wrote: »

Wyatt returned at the weekend so it might be him. I can't stand Wyatt though so hopefully not.

I dont mind Wyatt, the character if used properly could have been great, but they've ruined him now

CastorTroy · 26-11-2018 04:23PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

IC Title open challenge returns tonight!

Saw Mustafa Ali teasing himself.

But it will be Drew, won't it.

After saying Mustafa, I thought you meant Drew Gulak. Realised then you meant McIntyre

TimesArrow · 27-11-2018 02:43AM

Turned Raw off after that Ambrose segment.. sticking to “highlights” now

PTH2009 · 27-11-2018 02:45AM

Was expecting Ambrose too say something horrible about Reigns illness but thankfully he didn't. Odd promo to say the least,, why a medical room with him getting needles ?

Lucha house party no thanks good night

TimesArrow · 27-11-2018 02:48AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Was expecting Ambrose too say something horrible about Reigns illness but thankfully he didn't. Odd promo to say the least,, why a medical room with him getting needles ?

Lucha house party no thanks good night

The lead up to the segment highlighted what he said last week about Roman..

Lord TSC · 27-11-2018 09:34AM

That...that might have been the worst episode of Raw I’ve seen in years.

An open challange wasted on a match we’ve seen repeatedly in recent weeks.
The face Luncha Hose party gimmick is they gang up on the heels in handicap matches.
I don’t mind the Corbin stable...,but it literally did not progress one iota between last week and this, or between opening and closing segment.
The Nia promoThe Ambrose getting his shots promo.
Bailly is literally a child.

The only good thing I’ll say, and I know most will probably have hated it, is I actually liked the progression to the awful Maverick piss angle. Pissing on Roodes jacket, and then having that ****-eating grin afterwards, actually restores some of his heel credibility. Turning something that they were using to make fun of him round on the faces was smart.

But holy hell, the rest of the show was just utter turgid.

Rock Lesnar · 27-11-2018 09:38AM

Lord TSC wrote: »

The only good thing I’ll say, and I know most will probably have hated it, is I actually liked the progression to the awful Maverick piss angle. Pissing on Roodes jacket, and then having that ****-eating grin afterwards, actually restores some of his heel credibility.

Is this what its come to for heels to get heat in 2018, after Ambroses comments last week and now this, i think we may have finally hit rock bottom.

Lord TSC · 27-11-2018 10:19AM

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Is this what its come to for heels to get heat in 2018, after Ambroses comments last week and now this, i think we may have finally hit rock bottom.

Meh, the context of the character is important. Drake is going to be limited with how much heel credibility he can get against guys twice his size, and the character (at least on Raw) is he’s a chicken**** heel with two bullies backing him up. So in the context of the level he’s at, I think it was a rare moment of character development. He turned the insults back on those making fun of him, but the smirk made it clear he was hateable for it.

That’s not defending the original pissing angle last week. Nor is it me saying I think the development would work with other characters.

But in the specific context of the story being told, I thought it actually worked well.

Unlike literally everything else on the show.

27-11-2018 10:43AM

In terms of pissing angles my top 3

1.Austin 3.16 said I just pissed my pants...

2. Jericho pissing in regals tea

3. Drake Maverick

Sorry for all the ones I left out.....

Special shout out to Dx and Spirit Squad

J. Marston · 27-11-2018 11:30AM

Reddit got me good this morning. That's where I get Raw news and clips and there is a thread titled "Live Reddit reaction to IC open challenger" and I was thinking "NXT call up? Someone returning?" and it's just 100+ posts of "Piss off, Ziggler."

I liked the Maverick skit. The glorious gimmick deserved it at this point.

CastorTroy · 27-11-2018 01:44PM

So started watching Starrcade after finishing Raw. And the first match has Dana as a face. And then on Raw she's attacking those she was teaming with on Starrcade? Though I think she was heel before? Or is it a case that we're not meant to care enough about her to notice?

With the beatdown on Elias and Finn, are we in for more beatdowns with no one coming for the save until Braun returns? So even though they attack 5 or 6 guys, none of them think to team up to stop Corbin and co.

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