Gardai target organised begging in Dublin

PlaneSpeeking · 16-11-2018 04:33PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

You speak for every user here, wow :rolleyes:

He speaks for me, and a fair few more.

Just doesn't ring true I'd respectfully suggest - it's like reading the soundtrack to Fiddler or Oliver and doesn't accurately reflect the reality of life here.

chrissb8 · 16-11-2018 04:44PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Er, eat it?

I have done that when one in Donegal Town begged me to buy her lunch.
She was delighted/

The same one used ti come to my market stall with her baby,crying, "no milk... no Pampers.." I sent her off to V de Paul

She also saw I had a large flagon of milk in my car and chased me down the road.... I took refuge in the bank!

I have no money to give; but I would never see anyone go hungry.

This. This attitude is so annoying.

Ireland is awash with food. Ireland has food in abundance. You literally cannot go hungry in Ireland. There are dedictaed folk to making sure you don't go hungry. There are soup kitchens. There are the simon community who go out and feed people on a nightly/daily basis.

There is no reason for anyone to complain about food in Ireland it is everywhere. All you literally have to do is sit and wait or go and ask at the right place.

JohnnyFlash · 16-11-2018 04:53PM

riffmongous wrote: »

The girl was vulnerable and the guy, whoever he was, a psycho.. The main suspect was found not guilty a few years ago, not enough evidence

A truly deranged psychopath by all accounts. Also a chief suspect in the disappearance of Trevor Deely.

James Brown · 16-11-2018 04:56PM

AllForIt wrote: »

I'm afraid this is the way it's going or has gone rather. The SJW's now consider every social demographic as a race including the criminal demographics and we will rue the day we didn't stop this nonsense when it started. I personally find this kind of stuff infuriating for it's nastyness towards good ppl, it's stupidity, it's social destructiveness in that the attitude serves to protect undesirables whether this is intention or not, and most of all the reason one is motivated to make such remarks which clearly is virtue signalling. Kitty Holland is off a class of ppl that I utterly despise as much I could despise any other class of criminal.

The Alt-Right are trying to put decency into the 'ah look at yer man with his helping those less fortunate like a big ejit, the big ejit' category.
Worse case scenario we're too nice, the alternate is being a self serving shower of Fine Gaelers.
I'm okay with the 'SJW's'. Didn't they use to be part of Public Enemy? Flava flav!!!!!

DaintyDavy · 16-11-2018 04:59PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

The Alt-Right are trying to put decency into the 'ah look at yer man with his helping those less fortunate like a big ejit, the big ejit' category.
Worse case scenario we're too nice, the alternate is being a self serving shower of Fine Gaelers.
I'm okay with the 'SJW's'. Didn't they use to be part of Public Enemy? Flava flav!!!!!

Except the money these big eejits hand over is going to people that have even more money than them in the first place.

I can understand though a lot of people hand over money just to make themselves feel better. They are part of the problem though unfortunatly.

Graces7 · 16-11-2018 05:01PM

chrissb8 wrote: »

This. This attitude is so annoying.

Ireland is awash with food. Ireland has food in abundance. You literally cannot go hungry in Ireland. There are dedictaed folk to making sure you don't go hungry. There are soup kitchens. There are the simon community who go out and feed people on a nightly/daily basis.

There is no reason for anyone to complain about food in Ireland it is everywhere. All you literally have to do is sit and wait or go and ask at the right place.

In Dublin in this decade, yes. In Donegal ten years ago, far less. There was nothing except v de paul. None of the resources you list.

Some of us who knew this gave what we could in the ways we could. These were families known to the Gardai .

Old folk go hungry too; hence the number of meals on wheels and associated lunch clubs. Children get to school hungry, hence the number of breakfast clubs

Gap between big cities and rural.

I have no idea what the family dynamics in the Roma were or are.

suicide_circus · 16-11-2018 05:03PM

Handing money to Roma on the street is literally fueling an organised crime syndicate. You might as well be buying smack on the boardwalk.

King of Kings · 16-11-2018 05:03PM

riffmongous wrote: »

She was repeatedly raped, shot in the head 4 times then dumped in a shallow grabe in the mountains, that's pretty savage. Your wish to downplay it says a lot about you tbh

you should re-read my post cos you didnt read it properly.

Better still I'll spoonfeed you so you dont misunderstand...

the original poster said the garda hadnt seen such savagery...I replied the garda couldnt have seen much as the corpse was in the ground so long....clearly paraphrasing here...so maybe re-read the post...

none of my comment was about the murder itself...it was about the hyperbole of the poster.

Working class heroes · 16-11-2018 05:03PM

Every time I pass one of those Roma dudes/dudettes I drive them a good kick in the face.

Every. Single.Time.

ANDREWMUFC · 16-11-2018 05:04PM

Last week down Shop Street in Galway there was one of these Roma beggars sitting down outside beside McDonalds, anyway this silly young lad with green hair goes up and asks the beggar does he want a burger and yer man says “no no me want money” and the liberal young lad says I can’t give you money but I’ll get you a burger.

We need to educate these silly teenagers and people in general not to buy or give these Roma beggars anything, in a bid to look kind and not racist

Graces7 · 16-11-2018 05:04PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

He speaks for me, and a fair few more.

Just doesn't ring true I'd respectfully suggest - it's like reading the soundtrack to Fiddler or Oliver and doesn't accurately reflect the reality of life here.

How much time do you spend in rural towns? It is a different scene. Reading what is written here makes me think that what YOU write "doesn't accurately reflect the reality of life here. "

Graces7 · 16-11-2018 05:06PM

ANDREWMUFC wrote: »

Last week down Shop Street in Galway there was one of these Roma beggars sitting down outside beside McDonalds, anyway this silly young lad with green hair goes up and asks the beggar does he want a burger and yer man says “no no me want money” and the liberal young lad says I can’t give you money but I’ll get you a burger.

We need to educate these silly teenagers and people in general not to buy or give these Roma beggars anything, in a bid to look kind and not racist

Not your call in reality. Thankfully... If we want to give we will give. Our money after all

Working class heroes · 16-11-2018 05:06PM

Graces7 wrote: »

How much time do you spend in rural towns? It is a different scene. Reading what is written here makes me think that what YOU write "doesn't accurately reflect the reality of life here. "

I’m sorry but I have to ask.

Are you end of the road’s Mother?

16-11-2018 05:06PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

A truly deranged psychopath by all accounts. Also a chief suspect in the disappearance of Trevor Deely.

Didn't know about that part.. another very sad case

punisher5112 · 16-11-2018 05:07PM

I could have sworn they done nothing as I see all the regulars out and still have tons travel on the bus and try and pay child fares and them older then me.

They always mumble and then start shouting when you say not enough as they only throw in a few copper coins.

It's big money and those caught should be shown back to where they came from.

The city has gone to pot.

Graces7 · 16-11-2018 05:08PM

DaintyDavy wrote: »

Nobody on this site believes a word you say.

"Oh yes they do!"

PlaneSpeeking · 16-11-2018 05:10PM

Graces7 wrote: »

"Oh yes they do!"

:rolleyes:

I'd warrant more don't than do.

16-11-2018 05:15PM

King of Kings wrote: »

you should re-read my post cos you didnt read it properly.

Better still I'll spoonfeed you so you dont misunderstand...

the original poster said the garda hadnt seen such savagery...I replied the garda couldnt have seen much as the corpse was in the ground so long....clearly paraphrasing here...so maybe re-read the post...

none of my comment was about the murder itself...it was about the hyperbole of the poster.

Because when someone says they never saw the likes of something, they literally only mean visually, maybe you need a bit of spoonfeeding yourself to stop misunderstanding things

King of Kings · 16-11-2018 05:45PM

riffmongous wrote: »

Because when someone says they never saw the likes of something, they literally only mean visually, maybe you need a bit of spoonfeeding yourself to stop misunderstanding things

i refuse to accept this...

topper75 · 16-11-2018 06:03PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

The city has gone to pot.

I view it all from a remove but am saddened nonetheless.

It is unsustainable. Many of the liberal defenders of these anti-social types live a life that never brings them into contact with the woes brought by these foreign criminal elements.

They see them as another element of some kind of beautiful new ethnic tapestry, a magical multicultural San Francisco happyville. If you query that you can only be a nasty person, a racist even - no better than those baddies in Mississippi Burning.

We need less liberalism to stem this and less laissez-faire policing.
I would criminalize begging full stop. I would confiscate their assets, fingerprint and deport them.

LollipopJimmy · 16-11-2018 06:11PM

See given homelessness is so topical at the moment Joe Public is guilted into giving to beggars which in turn leads to more begging given it is so popular.

I don't give to beggars but one lad did ask me last Christmas for a euro as he was trying to get the price of a few cans, I gave him a tenner. The honesty was refreshing. The catch all phrase is now 'a few euro for a hostel' or 'a few euro for the homeless'.

Like I said earlier, most of these bollixes aren't homeless

happyoutscan · 16-11-2018 08:35PM

DaintyDavy wrote: »

Apparently its organised racism.

https://twitter.com/KittyHollandIT/status/1062488654629797888?s=19

She is a moron.

mikemac2 · 16-11-2018 08:51PM

RobertKK wrote: »

Kilkenny City had a big begging problem back in the 2000s, Roma gangs would drive them down from Dublin for the day.
There would be beggars on High st, on the steps linking to Kieran St, and beggars near the ATM machines, beggars at the car park pay machines, it was getting really bad before it was cleaned up.
It was like overnight they just disappeared.
Kilkenny's two biggest income sources are agriculture and tourism, and no one wants tourists visiting and falling over beggars (bad enough for the locals) as there was like beggars everywhere when it was at its worst.

Kilkenny solved this

Tell us more, how did they do it?

Did it involve hurleys?

DaintyDavy · 16-11-2018 08:53PM

mikemac2 wrote: »

Kilkenny solved this

Tell us more, how did they do it? Did it involve hurleys?

I hope there were pitchforks involved.

Gardai target organised begging in Dublin

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