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    #32
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Checkmate19 wrote: »
    Also reason kids are getting bigger alot to do with sitting on phones and gaming devices and not getting exercise

    Parents need hit hard to take responsibility on that front. Not some token gesture cash grab. People want everyone else to do too much of the rearing of their kids now.


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    #33
    [Deleted User]
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    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    Where did I mention the cost of production falling?

    I only mentioned the tax imposed on it.

    That’s a bull**** excuse anyway. 2L of water is €1.40 or so cheaper than 2L of Coca Cola.


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    #34
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Checkmate19 wrote: »
    So people who eat properly should be punished if they want to eat something not great for you one in a while.

    In your made up world? Apparently.


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    #35
    jimgoose
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    Taxing takeaways or meat is ridiculous. To make a real and substantial impact on public health, any and all processed food products containing excessive sugar and/or salt should be taxed out of existence, however and wherever they're sold.


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    #36
    OldMrBrennan83
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    jimgoose wrote: »
    Taxing takeaways or meat is ridiculous. To make a real and substantial impact on public health, any and all processed food products containing excessive sugar and/or salt should be taxed out of existence, however and wherever they're sold.

    No, statements like that just because you've your own preference is what's ridiculous.


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    #37
    jimgoose
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    Patww79 wrote: »
    No, statements like that just because you've your own preference is what's ridiculous.

    I find that pronouncement a little bizarre to put it mildly. Processed food manufacturers put dangerous levels of salt and sugar into products, particularly those marketed as "low fat".


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    #38
    OldMrBrennan83
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    jimgoose wrote: »
    I find that pronouncement a little bizarre to put it mildly. Processed food manufacturers put dangerous levels of salt and sugar into products, particularly those marketed as "low fat".

    My apologies, I read your first sentence as "Eating" instead of "Taxing" and I was referring to that. I agree with the rest, well I agree with it all now that I've grasped basic reading. Sorry.


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    #39
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Human lungs need to be taxed heavily as they emit carbon dioxide which in turn kills polar bears.


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    #40
    jimgoose
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    Patww79 wrote: »
    My apologies, I read your first sentence as "Eating" instead of "Taxing" and I was referring to that. I agree with the rest, well I agree with it all now that I've grasped basic reading. Sorry.

    Right you be Chief, I did wonder, mind! :pac:


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    #41
    eastie17
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    topper75 wrote: »
    What about fat gain tax instead?
    You get weighed at existing NCT centers twice a year and pay a % tax on any Kg differential. All foodstuffs left alone for your own free choice.
    All tax raised can be ringfenced for diabetes and obesity driven HSE costs.

    It would need to test body fat percentage to be fair. Could be adding lots of beefy muscle as the increase in kg


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    #42
    Pyr0
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    Soon there will be a tax tax, then what do we do?


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    #43
    Captain Chaos
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    Pyr0 wrote: »
    Soon there will be a tax tax, then what do we do?

    Your wages get taxed before you get them then you get taxed again on everything you spend your wages on. So yes there is tax tax.

    Then if you buy a car you are taxed on the car price plus yearly motor tax. That's tax tax tax. Great fun.


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    #44
    Cleopatra_
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    I can see where this thread is heading and it involves fatty bashing. Yawn. I'll go and find some maltesers to increase my chances of diabetes.


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    #45
    jimgoose
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    Cleopatra_ wrote: »
    I can see where this thread is heading and it involves fatty bashing. Yawn. I'll go and find some maltesers to increase my chances of diabetes.

    For me, it shall be two pints of beer followed by a rare sirloin steak with coleslaw and boiled potatoes. With lashings of real butter. :D


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    #46
    Humphrey BoaGart
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    Pyr0 wrote: »
    Soon there will be a tax tax, then what do we do?

    Pay it and shaddup.


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    #47
    ED E
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    Checkmate19 wrote: »
    Also reason kids are getting bigger alot to do with sitting on phones and gaming devices and not getting exercise

    Nope.

    Diet is the primary determinant of weight. Exercise makes you healthy, food controls your weight.


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    #48
    Checkmate19
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    No exercise helps you keep weight off or I must be living in a different universe. Sitting down all the time is not good for you and will contribute to weight gain.


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    #49
    Checkmate19
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    Excercise burns calories or again I'm living on a different planet.


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    #50
    Checkmate19
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 564 ✭✭✭Checkmate19


    And anyone saying kids constantly on phones and gaming machines rather than out playing is not effecting obseity is denial.


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    #51
    omb0wyn5ehpij9
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    Checkmate19 wrote: »
    No exercise helps you keep weight off or I must be living in a different universe. Sitting down all the time is not good for you and will contribute to weight gain.

    It will contribute to it, but the majority is down to diet. It is widely accepted that weight gain/loss is 75% diet, 25% exercise


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    #52
    Checkmate19
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    You could eat 5000 calories a day and burn it off and not gain weight. Excercise is totally linked to weight.


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    #53
    Outlaw Pete
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    There's always been fat shaming and there's always been consequences, these days are no different.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/schoolgirl10-attempted-commit-suicide-after-13587572

    Maybe people should leave the worrying about other people's weight up to doctors.


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    #54
    omb0wyn5ehpij9
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    Checkmate19 wrote: »
    You could eat 5000 calories a day and burn it off and not gain weight. Excercise is totally linked to weight.

    You could sit on your ass all day and eat below your average daily calories and lose weight.

    Your comment doesn’t changed what I said in my previous post that the majority defining reason for weight loss/gain is diet


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    #55
    beertons
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    If they tax farts, I'll be broke in no time. Farts are worse after a take away too. Bit like getting 2 shots with the one gun. Screwed I am.


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    #56
    Micky 32
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    jimgoose wrote: »
    For me, it shall be two pints of beer followed by a rare sirloin steak with coleslaw and boiled potatoes. With lashings of real butter. :D


    The bird made me a gorgeous birthday dinner last night, steak medium well, mushrooms and onions spuds and pepper sauce and some garlic cheese potatoes thrown in for good measure :D:p Delicious


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    #57
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Checkmate19 wrote: »
    You could eat 5000 calories a day and burn it off and not gain weight. Excercise is totally linked to weight.

    Only an athlete would do enough exercise to burn those kind of calories.

    For mere mortals, eating healthily in sensible portion sizes does most of the work in keeping weight down. Exercise does create a calorie deficit but many people over-estimate the deficit created. Exercise is mostly to tone a person up rather than contribute much to weight loss or weight maintenance if one is already a healthy weight.

    I lost a pile of weight a few years back and it was 100% down to diet. I did no exercise. I wasn’t fit and I was skinny fat. THAT is what exercise does. Tones you up, makes you look good naked, increases your fitness.


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    #58
    Hannibal_Smith
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    Checkmate19 wrote: »
    You could eat 5000 calories a day and burn it off and not gain weight. Excercise is totally linked to weight.

    How would you go about burning 5000 a day?


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    #59
    Church on Tuesday
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Only an athlete would do enough exercise to burn those kind of calories.

    For mere mortals, eating healthily in sensible portion sizes does most of the work in keeping weight down. Exercise does create a calorie deficit but many people over-estimate the deficit created. Exercise is mostly to tone a person up rather than contribute much to weight loss or weight maintenance if one is already a healthy weight.

    I lost a pile of weight a few years back and it was 100% down to diet. I did no exercise. I wasn’t fit and I was skinny fat. THAT is what exercise does. Tones you up, makes you look good naked, increases your fitness.

    Dieting is fine and it's important to try to eat well but exercise is also important, crucial really, for one's overall general well being.

    We are human beings descended from hunter gatherers. As such, our bodies are designed to move and be active for at least some of the day.


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    #60
    pxdf9i5cmoavkz
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    Well lifes a bitch and then you die and pay taxes for that too.


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    #61
    cursai
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    Agricola wrote: »
    McDonald's milkshakes are too big and too calorific. Handing one to a small kid who'll invariably scoff the lot is just excessive. They should be smaller.

    Don't give it to the child. Or take it off them!! Who's the paren't? Ronald Mc****inDonald *????


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