Live and work in Dubai opportunity

StereoSound · 10-11-2018 09:56AM #1

Have an opportunity to go work in Dubai. Been offered a Job there with an IT company which will give me a secure future. It's a big move and I'm not sure I'm brave enough to leave my Homeland to go work in such a place. The heat alone is a turn off and the laws over there are a little nerving. It's not a free democracy, you could easily be locked up if you ever couldn't pay your bills on time. You could thrive there if you had the skills and the heart for it, could be quite the opposite if your not careful. Human rights are Abit hairy there to. I guess it's normal to hear about all the negatives and I should be more positive about it. I would love to do it....

I have a good job here in Ireland but I could earn significantly more if I took this job in Duabi. It's double what I currently earn here and that's just the beginning... Big decision!

. I'm pretty much free as a bird here and some will say I'll regret if I I don't go for it.. Fear of the unknown is stopping me. Completely different world over there, and who knows if some sort of arab spring type situation might extend to UAE?

bren2002 · 10-11-2018 09:59AM

Way over thinking it.
Go for it.

10-11-2018 10:02AM

The human rights situation puts me off

Wanderer78 · 10-11-2018 10:02AM

StereoSound wrote: »

Have an opportunity to go work in Dubai. Been offered a Job there with an IT company which will give me a secure future. It's a big move and I'm not sure I'm brave enough to leave my Homeland to go work in such a place. The heat alone is a turn off and the laws over there are a little nerving. It's not a free democracy, you could easily be locked up if you ever couldn't pay your bills on time. You could thrive there if you had the skills and the heart for it, could be quite the opposite if your not careful. Human rights are Abit hairy there to. I guess it's normal to hear about all the negatives and I should be more positive about it. I would love to do it....

I have a good job here in Ireland but I could earn significantly more if I took this job in Duabi. It's double what I currently earn here and that's just the beginning... Big decision! . I'm pretty much free as a bird here and some will say I'll regret if I I don't go for it.. Fear of the unknown is stopping me. Completely different world over there, and who knows if some sort of arab spring type situation might extend to UAE?

There's no such thing as 'free democracy' or 'freedom' for that matter, drive on, a great experience I'd imagine

topmanamillion · 10-11-2018 10:03AM

The most important thing I took from your post was when you said you would love to do it.
There's a lot of hyperbole about Arab springs and the likes in your post.
As for being locked up for not paying your bills. People are in jail here for not paying their TV licences.
Sounds like a great opurtunity and something you want to do.

Some questions you should ask is, is your accommodation subsidised or even paid for?
Rent is paid in one or two lump sums over there so you may need help with this.
Also most accommodation comes unfurnished. Again, another bill to think about.
From looking at some opportunities recently in Dubai myself, I was told to write off the first year in terms of saving money as there are alot of start up costs.
Particularly if accommodation and flight costs are left entirely up to you.

whiskeyman · 10-11-2018 10:04AM

If you've no commitments here, go for it.
I'm sure there's plenty of Irish there already and meet ups etc...
Super experience and the money is a massive draw of course. It could really make your future.
Congrats on the offer and best of luck!

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-11-2018 10:09AM

topmanamillion wrote: »

The most important thing I took from your post was when you said you would love to do it.
There's a lot of hyperbole about Arab springs and the likes in your post.
As for being locked up for not paying your bills. People are in jail here for not paying their TV licences.
Sounds like a great opurtunity and something you want to do.

If in jail you mean taken to jail and then released yeh.

It’s a fairly free middle eastern/Arab state but it’s still an Islamic State with Islamic law. Lots of people going or even living there don’t realise that.

BohsCeltic · 10-11-2018 10:12AM

StereoSound wrote: »

Have an opportunity to go work in Dubai. Been offered a Job there with an IT company which will give me a secure future. It's a big move and I'm not sure I'm brave enough to leave my Homeland to go work in such a place. The heat alone is a turn off and the laws over there are a little nerving. It's not a free democracy, you could easily be locked up if you ever couldn't pay your bills on time. You could thrive there if you had the skills and the heart for it, could be quite the opposite if your not careful. Human rights are Abit hairy there to. I guess it's normal to hear about all the negatives and I should be more positive about it. I would love to do it....

I have a good job here in Ireland but I could earn significantly more if I took this job in Duabi. It's double what I currently earn here and that's just the beginning... Big decision! . I'm pretty much free as a bird here and some will say I'll regret if I I don't go for it.. Fear of the unknown is stopping me. Completely different world over there, and who knows if some sort of arab spring type situation might extend to UAE?

I'm in a similar situation but my job offer is in Thailand.
I don't have any kids but have close family and friends here.
The money is less than what I would be earning in Ireland but could have a really comfortable life as it's much cheaper over there and I've worked everything out and it's probably the same as earning 5k a month in Ireland.

It's a really tough call to make.

gooseygander · 10-11-2018 10:14AM

I have been to Dubai on holiday with family and it is a crime free paradise. DO IT or you WILL regret it. It has everything and is like a the most advanced western city in some respects and has the Arabic culture in the old part of the city. Unless you are a raving alcoholic and a criminal you will have no problems there. It is a city of ex pats all who are trying to better their lives. I loved the place and would deffo recommend it. It’s a five star city I guarantee you will love. Best of luck

Nomis21 · 10-11-2018 10:21AM

Looking back the biggest regrets we have are always about things we didn't do.

Wanderer78 · 10-11-2018 10:22AM

BohsCeltic wrote: »

StereoSound wrote: »

Have an opportunity to go work in Dubai. Been offered a Job there with an IT company which will give me a secure future. It's a big move and I'm not sure I'm brave enough to leave my Homeland to go work in such a place. The heat alone is a turn off and the laws over there are a little nerving. It's not a free democracy, you could easily be locked up if you ever couldn't pay your bills on time. You could thrive there if you had the skills and the heart for it, could be quite the opposite if your not careful. Human rights are Abit hairy there to. I guess it's normal to hear about all the negatives and I should be more positive about it. I would love to do it....

I have a good job here in Ireland but I could earn significantly more if I took this job in Duabi. It's double what I currently earn here and that's just the beginning... Big decision! . I'm pretty much free as a bird here and some will say I'll regret if I I don't go for it.. Fear of the unknown is stopping me. Completely different world over there, and who knows if some sort of arab spring type situation might extend to UAE?

I'm in a similar situation but my job offer is in Thailand.
I don't have any kids but have close family and friends here.
The money is less than what I would be earning in Ireland but could have a really comfortable life as it's much cheaper over there and I've worked everything out and it's probably the same as earning 5k a month in Ireland.

It's a really tough call to make.

Go for it, know a chap currently doing it, having the time of his life

Halloween Jack · 10-11-2018 10:23AM

gooseygander wrote: »

I have been to Dubai on holiday with family and it is a crime free paradise. DO IT or you WILL regret it. It has everything and is like a the most advanced western city in some respects and has the Arabic culture in the old part of the city. Unless you are a raving alcoholic and a criminal you will have no problems there. It is a city of ex pats all who are trying to better their lives. I loved the place and would deffo recommend it. It’s a five star city I guarantee you will love. Best of luck

It is categorically not a crime free paradise. A close friend of mine was the victim of a serious violent crime there. Due to the nature of the crime she stood a good chance of being prosecuted herself for reporting it and had difficulty receiving the appropriate medical treatment.

kneemos · 10-11-2018 10:26AM

topmanamillion wrote: »

The most important thing I took from your post was when you said you would love to do it.
There's a lot of hyperbole about Arab springs and the likes in your post.
As for being locked up for not paying your bills. People are in jail here for not paying their TV licences.
Sounds like a great opurtunity and something you want to do.

Some questions you should ask is, is your accommodation subsidised or even paid for?
Rent is paid in one or two lump sums over there so you may need help with this.
Also most accommodation comes unfurnished. Again, another bill to think about.
From looking at some opportunities recently in Dubai myself, I was told to write off the first year in terms of saving money as there are alot of start up costs.
Particularly if accommodation and flight costs are left entirely up to you.

You go to court here for not paying your bills. Jail for not obeying a court order.

Presumably there must be some sort of adjudication out there as well,not just somebody says you owe them money and off to jail with ya.

ButtersSuki · 10-11-2018 10:29AM

StereoSound wrote: »

Have an opportunity to go work in Dubai. Been offered a Job there with an IT company which will give me a secure future. It's a big move and I'm not sure I'm brave enough to leave my Homeland to go work in such a place. The heat alone is a turn off and the laws over there are a little nerving. It's not a free democracy, you could easily be locked up if you ever couldn't pay your bills on time. You could thrive there if you had the skills and the heart for it, could be quite the opposite if your not careful. Human rights are Abit hairy there to. I guess it's normal to hear about all the negatives and I should be more positive about it. I would love to do it....

I have a good job here in Ireland but I could earn significantly more if I took this job in Duabi. It's double what I currently earn here and that's just the beginning... Big decision! . I'm pretty much free as a bird here and some will say I'll regret if I I don't go for it.. Fear of the unknown is stopping me. Completely different world over there, and who knows if some sort of arab spring type situation might extend to UAE?

Do it. I turned this down approx. 15 years ago. I've regretted it ever since and not in a position to go now.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-11-2018 10:30AM

Halloween Jack wrote: »

It is categorically not a crime free paradise. A close friend of mine was the victim of a serious violent crime there. Due to the nature of the crime she stood a good chance of being prosecuted herself for reporting it and had difficulty receiving the appropriate medical treatment.

Difficult place for women alright.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 10-11-2018 10:56AM

Legal system in the UAE.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_system_of_the_United_Arab_Emirates

Slasher · 10-11-2018 01:17PM

StereoSound wrote: »

and I'm not sure I'm brave enough to leave my Homeland to go work in such a place.

I don't think you are. You need to be mentally strong, tolerant, and willing to put up with things that don't really agree with you. If you want to save money out there (why else would you go?) you have to be willing to spend very little. If you go just to have a good time, you won't save any money and there's no point in that.

StereoSound wrote: »

The heat alone is a turn off

Really? well then, it's not the place for you, because, notwithstanding you will work and live in an air conditioned environment, you can't totally escape the heat, and it can get up to 48 C in the summer.

StereoSound wrote: »

Fear of the unknown is stopping me.

Yet another reason to not go.

Stay at home, work hard, advance yourself in your career, and no regrets.

cannotlogin · 10-11-2018 01:32PM

um.....surely you can come back if you don't like it?

I couldn't do it, holidayed there before in the psst and the hypocracy of the place together with the way they treat women is just not for me. I had to bit my tongue far too often to enjoy it.

suicide_circus · 10-11-2018 01:41PM

an unholy alliance of dark ages cruelty and ignorance with staggering vanity and ostentatious vulgarity.

but it will look good on the auld CV

steddyeddy · 10-11-2018 02:37PM

Do it for a while but in my experience it's an absolute hole of a place.

The Rape of Lucretia · 10-11-2018 03:02PM

Nomis21 wrote: »

Looking back the biggest regrets we have are always about things we didn't do.

Are they though ? Its still a binary decision. Go to Dubai, and the regret could equally be not staying in Ireland. I think thats just 'the grass is always greener' syndrome - looking back, you dont truy know how the route not taken would have turned out, and tend to see it as probably better than the one actually taken without any real reason to see it that way.

You need to consider both options as objectively as you can. Think what someone wise or all-knowing would ask you about your motivation, and what they think you should do.

Dubai is very alien, hostile in many ways, and very different. And from an Irish perspective, certainly a backward religious country with restricted freedom. It has few if any advantages, apart from the money. Thats why the money is good. Its a get in get out, kind of place - if it serves a financial or career stepping stone to somewhere else, then worth biting the bullet for a while. But if looking for adventure, an interesting change of scene, or somewhere intrinsically nice where settling long term is a viable option, then there are plenty of other options, and Dubai certainly isnt among them. It has a last resort vibe to it to me.

ArnoldJRimmer · 10-11-2018 03:15PM

Know a woman who has lived there for close to ten years and has had minimal hassle. She's not married, but has had live in boyfriends with no trouble. So while its a repressive part of the world, they're tolerant to our 'western ways'. Just don't do anything stupid like these idiots, and you'll be grand

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/dubai/3207483/British-couple-jailed-for-sex-on-Dubai-beach.html

I've been out there twice, and while its not my cup of tea, it really is a cool city. Good social scene, and not just if you're loaded. I'm a tight hoor and found plenty of reasonable places to have a pint.

11-11-2018 05:21AM

BohsCeltic wrote: »

I'm in a similar situation but my job offer is in Thailand.
I don't have any kids but have close family and friends here.
The money is less than what I would be earning in Ireland but could have a really comfortable life as it's much cheaper over there and I've worked everything out and it's probably the same as earning 5k a month in Ireland.

It's a really tough call to make.

That's not really similar. Dubai is famously tough to be an expat in, especially if you're single. People making the decision have to weigh up money versus quality of life.

Whereas pretty much everyone who moves to Thailand loves it. Less money for a better quality of life.

Canis Lupus · 11-11-2018 06:31AM

It's a tough call.

On the one hand I always encourage leaving ones home country if you can even if just for a while. It's good to try other countries. The money in places like Dubai is supposedly great and that's definitely a big lure for sure.

On the flipside I don't think I could stomach working for an islamic country in the middle east. I don't particularly care how tolerant they can at times be. I don't think I'd ever able to feel comfortable outside of my house.

11-11-2018 06:44AM

Canis Lupus wrote: »

It's a tough call.

On the one hand I always encourage leaving ones home country if you can even if just for a while. It's good to try other countries. The money in places like Dubai is supposedly great and that's definitely a big lure for sure.

On the flipside I don't think I could stomach working for an islamic country in the middle east. I don't particularly care how tolerant they can at times be. I don't think I'd ever able to feel comfortable outside of my house.

I've only been to one place with Sharia law (Banda Aceh) and it really was pretty uncomfortable. The constant staring at my girlfriend and the police blocking our path until they saw she wasn't from that area etc.

I didn't even know if I could smoke a cigarette. You doubt every action. Dubai would be better since there are so many foreigners, but it still feels pretty off.

Canis Lupus · 11-11-2018 06:58AM

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You doubt every action.

That's pretty much my line of thinking and when you're in a country that has actual lashes as a form of punishment then I'm not going to be overly comfortable.

Richard Hillman · 11-11-2018 07:44AM

Kip. Full of **** people

suicide_circus · 11-11-2018 10:58AM

once you go to such a place voluntarily I think you lose the moral authority to condemn any injustices by others

Funkfield · 11-11-2018 11:04AM

Ireland might have its issues but fcuk Dubai and fcuk the UAE

howdido · 11-11-2018 11:06AM

I live over here....you would be mad not to come over. From what you're saying you will be earning double your salary and not paying any tax on that so really you're earning 3 or 4 times your salary! Its a great life over here and everything you hear is over exaggerated.

clappyhappy · 11-11-2018 11:15AM

I lived there for 8 years as a Head chef and loved it. Yes it's an Islamic city but there is a huge Irish expat community there. Keep your head down, don't get into taxis drunk, don't have public displays of affection with anyone, be polite but not overly friendly with the locals, lots are CID (local police).

Things have changed a lot since we left, it's gotten really expensive, don't be fooled by the extra money you'll make, cost of living is extortionate there. Vat has been introduced recently, utility bills are high unless they are covered in your contract. Everybody eats out, so factor in food, drinks, taxis etc.

As I said I loved it, met my OH over there, first child was born there but moved home shortly after as its not a place I'd want my kids growing up in.

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.

Live and work in Dubai opportunity

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