Man (69) attempts to legally reduce his age

suicide_circus · 08-11-2018 10:01AM #1

A 69 year old Dutch man is going to court to get his age legally changed to the age he self identifies as, namely 49.

He feels discriminated against being 69 and feels his prospects of employment, opportunities and success on tinder will be greatly enhanced were he legally the age he feels like.

he likens his situation to that of transgender people.

Link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46133262

probably a stunt but legally I wonder on what grounds the court will refuse the application? Once self identification is accepted for one aspect of ones identity, why not another aspect?

super_furry · 08-11-2018 10:02AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

probably a stunt but legally I wonder on what grounds the court will refuse the application? Once self identification is accepted for one aspect of ones identity, why not another aspect?

On the basis of time passed between his birth and today I'd imagine.

Richard Hillman · 08-11-2018 10:06AM

I self identify as a 65 year old, public servant. Where's my pension?

riemann · 08-11-2018 10:08AM

super_furry wrote: »

On the basis of time passed between his birth and today I'd imagine.

Looks like we've got an ageist here.

minikin · 08-11-2018 10:10AM

Interesting case... I now identify a year as being 24 months.... 21 again. Must get me one of those smart telephones so I can surf the webernet and get an ‘email’

Franz Von Peppercorn · 08-11-2018 10:10AM

The exact kind of response you would expect from the obviously cis ageist privileged posters here

razorblunt · 08-11-2018 10:10AM

Is he a Nigerian footballer?

suicide_circus · 08-11-2018 10:11AM

super_furry wrote: »

On the basis of time passed between his birth and today I'd imagine.

well...yeah. but that kind of rigorous myopic logic isn't applied evenly.

inforfun · 08-11-2018 10:12AM

That is Emile Ratelband who does anything for a bit of attention.
In The Netherlands we stopped taking this guy seriously before anyone had even heard about a Y2k problem.

Snake oil salesman. Prostitute d'attention.
But well... he might actually finally have accomplished international fame now.

alias no.9 · 08-11-2018 10:12AM

super_furry wrote: »

On the basis of time passed between his birth and today I'd imagine.

Time is an arbitrary social construct and people experience it in different ways, why do you need to oppress this poor man? What did he ever do to you?

HappyAsLarE · 08-11-2018 10:14AM

This is actually no more ridiculous than self identifying as the opposite sex.

biko · 08-11-2018 10:14AM

He is doing it to show the stupidity of legal system moving away from simple biology. This whole "I identify as a ..." mess.

Edit, I personally know transgender people and have no issues with that.
You can be born a woman and later change sex to a man, that's not an issue for me.
It's when the genders limits gets blurred and people start saying there are more than two genders I disagree.

08-11-2018 10:14AM

hatespeech itt where are the mods, you know the ones

igCorcaigh · 08-11-2018 10:20AM

Will he have to give up his pension if he wins the case?

Roger Hassenforder · 08-11-2018 10:20AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I self identify as a 65 year old, public servant. Where's my pension?

Congrats.
You'll get it next year.

Sign on until then

suicide_circus · 08-11-2018 10:22AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Will he have to give up his pension if he wins the case?

he has said he will do so if he wins

igCorcaigh · 08-11-2018 10:22AM

biko wrote: »

He is doing it to show the stupidity of legal system moving away from simple biology. This whole "I identify as a ..." mess.

Well, gender dysphoria is a recognised medical condition, age dysphoria isn't.

looksee · 08-11-2018 10:25AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Well, gender dysphoria is a recognised medical condition, age dysphoria isn't.

Not yet.

OldGoat · 08-11-2018 10:28AM

Time is both empirical and subjective from the observers viewpoint thus it's an arbitrary construct.

/Exhales a plume of 'flavoured' smoke.

Kevin Finnerty · 08-11-2018 10:28AM

looksee wrote: »

Not yet.

I'm gonna live til I'm 314.

inforfun · 08-11-2018 10:32AM

biko wrote: »

He is doing it to show the stupidity of legal system moving away from simple biology. This whole "I identify as a ..." mess.

Unfortunately not.

He is only doing it for himself and the attention.

Just a couple of links, in Dutch, to give you an idea what kind of person he is:

https://www.telegraaf.nl/entertainment/2732192/emile-ratelband-onthult-waarom-hij-20-jaar-jonger-in-paspoort-wil-zijn

https://www.telegraaf.nl/entertainment/2484231/emile-ratelband-vindt-al-drie-draagmoeders

https://www.ad.nl/show/emile-ratelband-69-zoekt-draagmoeder-om-weer-vader-te-kunnen-worden~a536a167/

Just copy\paste the links in Google translate, should work.

Penn · 08-11-2018 10:34AM

HappyAsLarE wrote: »

This is actually no more ridiculous than self identifying as the opposite sex.

Age is a measure of time. Gender dysphoria is a recognised diagnosis which tends to result in clinically significant distress or impairment, likely stemming from development of the foetus.

It is more ridiculous. It is actually entirely more ridiculous.

RayCun · 08-11-2018 10:38AM

inforfun wrote: »

That is Emile Ratelband who does anything for a bit of attention.
In The Netherlands we stopped taking this guy seriously before anyone had even heard about a Y2k problem.

Snake oil salesman. Prostitute d'attention.
But well... he might actually finally have accomplished international fame now.

He discovered the secret to getting attention was to appeal to the permanently outraged. He can expect the offers from Fox and the Daily Mail to come in now. And he already has his own brand of snake oil? The man was clearly thinking ahead.

suicide_circus · 08-11-2018 10:39AM

Penn wrote: »

Age is a measure of time. Gender dysphoria is a recognised diagnosis which tends to result in clinically significant distress or impairment, likely stemming from development of the foetus.

It is more ridiculous. It is actually entirely more ridiculous.

what branch of medicine is this covered by?

TomSweeney · 08-11-2018 10:45AM

More denial of reality nonsense.
Where will it end ?

Roger Hassenforder · 08-11-2018 10:46AM

Penn wrote: »

Age is a measure of time. Gender dysphoria is a recognised diagnosis which tends to result in clinically significant distress or impairment, likely stemming from development of the foetus.

It is more ridiculous. It is actually entirely more ridiculous.

If i was travelling fast, ill age slower than you*,. But you're ok with me suffering "clinically significant distress or impairment" just so you can impose your arbitary ageist constructs based on your patriatchial timebound norms on me.

Monstrous

*May need some maths here

NIMAN · 08-11-2018 10:48AM

Its because of this kind of nonsense that the worlds becoming more right wing.

People are getting fed up with the liberals saying people can be whatever they want to be, totally against all logic, and its making people call it out as BS and then they are the ones being accused of being anti-everything.

If you're 69, you're 69
If you have a penis, you're a man
If you have a vagina, you're a woman

Roger Hassenforder · 08-11-2018 10:51AM

NIMAN wrote: »

If you're 69, you're 69
If you have a penis, you're a man
If you have a vagina, you're a woman

What if you've a mangina?

inforfun · 08-11-2018 10:51AM

RayCun wrote: »

He discovered the secret to getting attention was to appeal to the permanently outraged. He can expect the offers from Fox and the Daily Mail to come in now. And he already has his own brand of snake oil? The man was clearly thinking ahead.

Oh, he has been a master at that

That is his car ( i think he had a couple of them) which made him of course very populair with permanently outraged at the opposite side.

He also had an Bugatti EB110 but his mechanic crashed that one for him.

antodeco · 08-11-2018 10:52AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

What if you've a mangina?

You're a keeper!

Roger Hassenforder · 08-11-2018 10:53AM

inforfun wrote: »

That fringe though.
And he wonders why he cant get some

Man (69) attempts to legally reduce his age

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