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Running two marathons within a month

  • 03-11-2018 1:27pm
    #1
    chabsey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭


    I've recently completed DCM and am thinking of doing another marathon abroad on the 25th November.

    I've taken this last week off so I presume if I'm to work in a week taper for the 25th then I've about two weeks of training I can fit in. Does this sound do-able?

    What do people recommend in terms of those two weeks? I was thinking of fitting in one LSR (~20miles) and a couple of interval / pace runs a week. Basically taking the last two weeks before the taper of the plan I used for DCM and applying it to the next two weeks.

    Does this sound reasonable or a recipe for disaster? I trained for 18 weeks for Dublin so think I'm in pretty good shape but haven't run two marathons so closely before.


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  • #2
    **Timbuk2**
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,395 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    Some strategies here
    https://www.halhigdon.com/training-programs/marathon-training/multiple-marathons/


  • #3
    Kellygirl
    Registered Users Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭Kellygirl


    The attached is from Advanced Marathoning by P&D. It’s a plan for 4 weeks between marathons.


  • #4
    OOnegative
    Registered Users Posts: 4,834 ✭✭✭OOnegative


    chabsey wrote: »
    I've recently completed DCM and am thinking of doing another marathon abroad on the 25th November.

    I've taken this last week off so I presume if I'm to work in a week taper for the 25th then I've about two weeks of training I can fit in. Does this sound do-able?

    What do people recommend in terms of those two weeks? I was thinking of fitting in one LSR (~20miles) and a couple of interval / pace runs a week. Basically taking the last two weeks before the taper of the plan I used for DCM and applying it to the next two weeks.

    Does this sound reasonable or a recipe for disaster? I trained for 18 weeks for Dublin so think I'm in pretty good shape but haven't run two marathons so closely before.

    Are you running or racing it? I done Köln and DCM three weeks apart but paced DCM 55mins slower than I raced Köln. No issues in doing it I say but if your an inexperienced marathoner take the second one handy.


  • #5
    chabsey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭chabsey


    OOnegative wrote: »
    Are you running or racing it? I done Köln and DCM three weeks apart but paced DCM 55mins slower than I raced Köln. No issues in doing it I say but if your an inexperienced marathoner take the second one handy.

    Knowing me I'll probably push it hard enough, similarly to how I ran DCM. The course is much flatter though so I'm hoping for a quicker time than DCM. I won't be hugely bothered though if I don't race it, depends on weather etc.


  • #6
    kerrylad1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 610 ✭✭✭kerrylad1


    chabsey wrote: »
    I've recently completed DCM and am thinking of doing another marathon abroad on the 25th November.

    I've taken this last week off so I presume if I'm to work in a week taper for the 25th then I've about two weeks of training I can fit in. Does this sound do-able?

    What do people recommend in terms of those two weeks? I was thinking of fitting in one LSR (~20miles) and a couple of interval / pace runs a week. Basically taking the last two weeks before the taper of the plan I used for DCM and applying it to the next two weeks.

    Does this sound reasonable or a recipe for disaster? I trained for 18 weeks for Dublin so think I'm in pretty good shape but haven't run two marathons so closely before.
    I did Manchester April 8th and Limerick may 6th.
    The four weeks between,I just did lots of very slow running on the treadmill.Except for 1 week out,12 miles easy on the road.If you do a 20 mile run,I would think you have a good chance of injury.I think (healy 1835)did Berlin and 4 week's later,he pulled of a sub 3 in Limerick.
    I was 6 minutes slower in Limerick than Manchester.
    Have a look at his log.(it's all in the try).He did some quality work,the four weeks between,and got the rewards.


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  • #7
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,256 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Is it the San Sebastián one?

    I rabthr two last year , rested week one , and four.

    Week 2 and 3 were just 5km, 10km 15km and 5km


  • #8
    chabsey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭chabsey


    ted1 wrote: »
    Is it the San Sebastián one?

    I rabthr two last year , rested week one , and four.

    Week 2 and 3 were just 5km, 10km 15km and 5km

    Was considering San Sebastian but it's difficult to get to so am thinking of Florence. How did you do in the San Sebastian one compared to DCM ? Did you take it easier?


  • #9
    browne_rob5
    Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭browne_rob5


    chabsey wrote: »
    Was considering San Sebastian but it's difficult to get to so am thinking of Florence. How did you do in the San Sebastian one compared to DCM ? Did you take it easier?

    You can fly to Bilbao with Aer lingus and there is a bus from the airport that brings you straight to San Sebastian. Takes about an hour. Looks like you would have to fly Friday to Monday which mightn't suit I guess.


  • #10
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,256 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    chabsey wrote: »
    ted1 wrote: »
    Is it the San Sebastián one?

    I rabthr two last year , rested week one , and four.

    Week 2 and 3 were just 5km, 10km 15km and 5km

    Was considering San Sebastian but it's difficult to get to so am thinking of Florence. How did you do in the San Sebastian one compared to DCM ? Did you take it easier?


    San Sebastián is very easy to get too!!

    Fly to Bilbao and get the bus from outside arrivals. Every hour. (Similar story with birratzz but flights may end in October)

    I did 15 minutes faster, we also had a great weekend 15 of us went some did the half, done did the 10 and 2 of us did the full. It’s great the three are on the sane day.

    Deffo do it again next year.


  • #11
    healy1835
    Registered Users Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭healy1835


    As Kerrylad alluded to, I did indeed make a 4 week turnaround between Rotterdam & Limerick this year. Here's a post from my log re. same.....

    So I suppose an update to the log is in order! Once I decided to go again in Limerick I visited these parts sparingly.
    I wouldn't say I was encouraged to run Limerick, but Sean said that if I felt I hadn't emptied the tank in Rotterdam (I definitely didn't) and if I felt mentally up to it (definitely maybe) then i could have a rattle at another marathon but it would have to be within 6 weeks and preferably sooner than that. Shout out to Tbl who reached out that Sunday afternoon in Rotterdam and suggested that maybe all wasn't lost, and if I went about things smartly then I could put this training block to use again.
    So the 4 weeks in between Limerick and Rotterdam looked a little something like this......

    Week 1:
    5k
    8k
    8k
    10k
    12k
    16k

    All Easy miles and I was back on the Tuesday after Rotterdam.

    Week 2:
    Hill Session: 8x500m Braveheart Hill
    11k Easy
    30k LR @4:45/km
    10k Easy

    Week 3:
    5mile tempo @4:06/km
    10k Easy
    24k MLR
    5 x 1Mile off 2mins (6:01, 5:57, 5:58, 5:56, 5:45)

    Week 4:
    8k Easy
    12k Easy
    2m/2m MP/2m
    5k Easy
    5k Easy
    2m Easy

    (* These 4 weeks also had their fair share of take aways, crap food, pints of Guinness, bottles of Tiger beer and so on. These didn't contribute to my performance in Limerick but they definitely topped up my mojo reserves which were in short supply after Rotterdam......)


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  • #12
    browne_rob5
    Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭browne_rob5


    healy1835 wrote: »
    As Kerrylad alluded to, I did indeed make a 4 week turnaround between Rotterdam & Limerick this year. Here's a post from my log re. same.....

    So I suppose an update to the log is in order! Once I decided to go again in Limerick I visited these parts sparingly.
    I wouldn't say I was encouraged to run Limerick, but Sean said that if I felt I hadn't emptied the tank in Rotterdam (I definitely didn't) and if I felt mentally up to it (definitely maybe) then i could have a rattle at another marathon but it would have to be within 6 weeks and preferably sooner than that. Shout out to Tbl who reached out that Sunday afternoon in Rotterdam and suggested that maybe all wasn't lost, and if I went about things smartly then I could put this training block to use again.
    So the 4 weeks in between Limerick and Rotterdam looked a little something like this......

    Week 1:
    5k
    8k
    8k
    10k
    12k
    16k

    All Easy miles and I was back on the Tuesday after Rotterdam.

    Week 2:
    Hill Session: 8x500m Braveheart Hill
    11k Easy
    30k LR @4:45/km
    10k Easy

    Week 3:
    5mile tempo @4:06/km
    10k Easy
    24k MLR
    5 x 1Mile off 2mins (6:01, 5:57, 5:58, 5:56, 5:45)

    Week 4:
    8k Easy
    12k Easy
    2m/2m MP/2m
    5k Easy
    5k Easy
    2m Easy

    (* These 4 weeks also had their fair share of take aways, crap food, pints of Guinness, bottles of Tiger beer and so on. These didn't contribute to my performance in Limerick but they definitely topped up my mojo reserves which were in short supply after Rotterdam......)
    Did you run a better time in Limerick?


  • #13
    healy1835
    Registered Users Posts: 2,181 ✭✭✭healy1835


    browne_rob5 wrote: »
    Did you run a better time in Limerick?

    Yeah, I had detonated at about 30k in Rotterdam, heat + poor hydration before and during the race did for me and I death shuffled home in 3:14, losing 15mins the last 10k or so. Wasn't injured and hadn't dipped into any reserves, so turned it around for 2:59 on another hot day in Limerick :)


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