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Religious hate-speech in the UK or fearless speaker of truth?

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    #32
    recedite
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    He may also be kind to animals, support a vegan diet and hug trees on occassion. He's still a vile right wing demagogue.
    Or...none of the above may be true.
    That's the great thing about free speech, you can say anything you like ;)
    Whether anyone believes you though, is another matter.



    Recedite, The Extender


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    #33
    recedite
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    The Youtube channel of a convicted fraudster with multiple aliases is surely a reliable source.
    Instead of being so bitchy, why not donate a few quid towards an electric wheelchair for a little girl who has cerebral palsy?
    https://www.gofundme.com/help-daisy-get-a-wheelchair

    There will be a full public accounting of all funds raised and any surplus will be applied to other, similar projects for military families.


    Recedite, The Elevating One


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    #34
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,144 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    recedite wrote: »
    Instead of being so bitchy, why not donate a few quid towards an electric wheelchair for a little girl who has cerebral palsy?
    https://www.gofundme.com/help-daisy-get-a-wheelchair



    Recedite, The Elevating One

    More likely to be going to Tommy's new million pound dream pad...

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #35
    Stephen15
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    More likely to be going to Tommy's new million pound dream pad...

    Oh the double standards of the left. Complaining that those who disagree with them are making generalisations about migrants and Muslims but yet make the same generalisations and wide sweeping statements about Tommy Robinson and his supporters.

    The left think Tommy Robinson is a fraudster but the real fraudsters are the likes of George Soros and Tommy Robinson supporters are all thugs and the refugees are all lovey dovey and great despite they rape, they murder, they fraud our nations for millions, they drive trucks into crowds of people, they operate child grooming gangs and they seek to take over our nations through radical Islam and mass immigration. But Tommy Robinson and "the far right" are the ones we have fear according to their logic.


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    #36
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Show me on the doll where George Soros hurt you.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #37
    King Mob
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Oh the double standards of the left. Complaining that those who disagree with them are making generalisations about migrants and Muslims but yet make the same generalisations and wide sweeping statements about Tommy Robinson and his supporters.
    .
    ...Then goes on to make sweeping generalistions...


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    #38
    ancapailldorcha
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Oh the double standards of the left. Complaining that those who disagree with them are making generalisations about migrants and Muslims but yet make the same generalisations and wide sweeping statements about Tommy Robinson and his supporters.

    The left think Tommy Robinson is a fraudster but the real fraudsters are the likes of George Soros and Tommy Robinson supporters are all thugs and the refugees are all lovey dovey and great despite they rape, they murder, they fraud our nations for millions, they drive trucks into crowds of people, they operate child grooming gangs and they seek to take over our nations through radical Islam and mass immigration. But Tommy Robinson and "the far right" are the ones we have fear according to their logic.

    Proof?

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #39
    Stephen15
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    King Mob wrote: »
    ...Then goes on to make sweeping generalistions...

    They are not generalisations they are the truth. Tommy Robinson speaks nothing but the truth about Islam.


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    #40
    ancapailldorcha
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    They are not generalisations they are the truth. Tommy Robinson speaks nothing but the truth about Islam.

    Nope. Just lazy generalisations with not a shred of evidence.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #41
    Odhinn
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    They are not generalisations they are the truth. Tommy Robinson speaks nothing but the truth about Islam.




    So you like him because he's a bigoted scum bag, and not because of his connection to the luton firm. That's nice.


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    #42
    smacl
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    They are not generalisations they are the truth. Tommy Robinson speaks nothing but the truth about Islam.

    If you read quotes like the one below it is quite clear this guy is a hate mongering bigot.
    “Every single Muslim watching this video on YouTube, on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens... you had better understand that we have built a network from one end of the country to the other end... and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defense League if we see any of our British citizens killed, maimed, or hurt on British soil ever again"


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    #43
    Peregrinus
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    They are not generalisations they are the truth. Tommy Robinson speaks nothing but the truth about Islam.
    The man's a convicted fraud, a forger, uses multiple aliases and can't even speak the truth about his own name, which is not "Tommy Robinson". With form like that, you'd have to be very stupid indeed to regard him as a source for the truth on any subject.


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    #44
    Stephen15
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    smacl wrote: »
    If you read quotes like the one below it is quite clear this guy is a hate mongering bigot.

    Tommy Robinson left the EDL years ago


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    #45
    King Mob
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    They are not generalisations they are the truth. Tommy Robinson speaks nothing but the truth about Islam.
    Nope, they are generalistions. Pretty racist ones too.


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    #46
    Stephen15
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    So you like him because he's a bigoted scum bag, and not because of his connection to the luton firm. That's nice.

    How's he a bigoted scumbag? All he speaks about Islam is the truth.


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    ancapailldorcha
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    They are not generalisations they are the truth. Tommy Robinson speaks nothing but the truth about Islam.
    Stephen15 wrote: »
    How's he a bigoted scumbag? All he speaks about Islam is the truth.

    Do you plan to substantiate any of this or are you just going to trot out lazy soundbytes because that's all you can really do?

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #48
    Peregrinus
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Do you plan to substantiate any of this or are you just going to trot out lazy soundbytes because that's all you can really do?
    Do not question the imperishable authority of Stephen15, ancapailldorcha. He has told you what you must believe. Bow to his decree, and do not presume to question it, lest you incur his displeasure.


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    #49
    Peregrinus
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Do you plan to substantiate any of this or are you just going to trot out lazy soundbytes because that's all you can really do?
    Do not question the imperishable authority of Stephen15, ancapailldorcha. He has told you what you must believe. Bow to his decree, and do not presume to question it, lest you incur his displeasure.


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    #50
    Stephen15
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    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Do not question the imperishable authority of Stephen15, ancapailldorcha. He has told you what you must believe. Bow to his decree, and do not presume to question it, lest you incur his displeasure.

    Making me out to be some sort of Nazi for not agreeing with the left wing consensus


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    #51
    recedite
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    Stephen15 wrote: »
    the left wing consensus
    As seen in the last few posts, it consists merely of lazy expletives and hate speech, nothing more.


    Recedite, The Abaser


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    #52
    King Mob
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    Which part is the hate speech exactly?


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    #53
    recedite
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    he's a bigoted scum bag
    smacl wrote: »
    this guy is a hate mongering bigot.
    Peregrinus wrote: »
    The man's a convicted fraud, a forger... stupid
    King Mob wrote: »
    racist


    Recedite, The All-Hearer


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    #54
    Odhinn
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    recedite wrote: »
    O(......................)Recedite, The All-Hearer




    That's all true, so I'm not sure what you're on about.


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    #55
    recedite
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    That's all true, so I'm not sure what you're on about.
    Even if it was true (which it isn't) it would still be hate speech.


    Recedite, The Knower of Subtleties


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    #56
    Odhinn
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    recedite wrote: »
    Even if it was true (which it isn't) it would still be hate speech.


    .........


    It most certainly is true, as listed here.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108482908&postcount=21


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    #57
    recedite
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    Odhinn wrote: »
    It most certainly is true, as listed here.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108482908&postcount=21
    That's just dumping links.
    Allegations have been made here in the thread, so its really up to the alligators to go into more detail.
    But as they have declined to do so, I will try to match up the hate speech and the allegations in the links...
    he's a bigoted scum bag
    Well, hate is an emotion, and you either hate somebody or you do not. Its a subjective thing. No rationale or reason is needed. so lets move on to more objective matters.
    this guy is a hate mongering bigot.
    The irony of this piece of hate speech is apparently lost on its author.
    The man's a convicted fraud, a forger... stupid
    I would assume that "forger" refers to leaving the country on somebody else's passport. Not the same as forging a passport at all at all.
    Anybody who has a conviction will have a difficulty getting into the USA, and the UK authorities made sure Tommy had a conviction, even if it meant trumped up charges against him. Recently he has been invited by a group of US Congressmen to speak on Capitol Hill, but it remains to be seen how he will get into the country. Wheres the Free Speech in that?



    I already posted the video of Tommy's amazing flying kick directed against the ISIS poppy burners. To their credit, the Islamists did not press charges, but somebody in authority had already decided that Tommy was going to be imprisoned one way or the other, and so he was. Some policeman was persuaded to complain of a mysterious headache afterwards.



    I assume that "fraud" refers to his giving the phone number of a mortgage broker to a third party. Any fraud committed then by exaggerating the earnings of that third party is committed by the mortgage broker and/or the mortgage applicant who signs the mortgage application forms. I'm sure peregrinus is well aware of this. The charge of "fixer" levelled against Tommy is therefore a very spurious conviction, but unlike his more recent conviction and unlawful imprisonment for "contempt of court" it was never appealed and quoshed.
    stupid
    Well, that's somebody who does not understand these things, but instead thinks whatever they are told to think.
    racist
    Here's an interesting read.https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/04/britains-hated-man-isnt-hateful/
    He’s intelligent, quick, articulate, well-informed, good-mannered — and surprisingly meek in his politics for a man so often branded a fascist. Many of his home friends are black, some are Muslims; he’s not obviously racist or anti-Semitic. He only got into activism and street demos because he happened to be a white working-class English lad in exactly the wrong place at exactly the wrong time. It was Luton, unfortunately, that Islamist proselytiser Anjem Choudary chose as the base for his various proscribed organisations.
    Now, about little Daisy.
    I assume when all you virtue signallers are finished spewing hate against Tommy and his friends, you will donate a little something towards her wheelchair?


    Recedite, The Impartial Judge


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    Odhinn
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    recedite wrote: »
    That's just dumping links.

    No, thats a series of things that a court has found him guilty of.


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    ancapailldorcha
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    recedite wrote: »
    That's just dumping links.
    Allegations have been made here in the thread, so its really up to the alligators to go into more detail.

    Does this includes the claims that Robinson/Yaxley-Lennon/Harris/McMaster is correct or are they somehow exempt?
    recedite wrote: »
    Now, about little Daisy. I assume when all you virtue signallers are finished spewing hate against Tommy and his friends, you will donate a little something towards her wheelchair?

    Do you not think that it is more than a bit sick to use a disabled child as a pawn for your agenda? Robinson's just spent nearly a million on a brand new house. Surely a few per cent of that would sort out that wheelchair. Unless of course the money's not actually for her at all which would fit into a convicted fraudster and thug's M.O.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #60
    recedite
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    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Do you not think that it is more than a bit sick to use a disabled child as a pawn for your agenda? Robinson's just spent nearly a million on a brand new house.
    If you only look for sick things, that's all you will find.
    So where is this house, and have you seen the invoice?
    I know nothing about it, but please enlighten me.


    Recedite, The Clement One


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    ancapailldorcha
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    recedite wrote: »
    If you only look for sick things, that's all you will find.
    So where is this house, and have you seen the invoice?
    I know nothing about it, but please enlighten me.


    Recedite, The Clement One

    If you are determined to ignore sick things, none shall appear.

    There's a link above in one of my earlier posts.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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