Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

Brendan Bendar · 27-10-2018 05:11PM

Damien360 wrote: »

Watching RTE coverage currently and Collins comments regarding 20% of population might hate travellers. Already the level of Casey's vote is being dismissed into the background as not really about that at all. It will make not an iota of a difference. Old news by the time the Dail goes on it's winter recess/holidays.

Don’t know who the Collins is you refer to, but make no mistake,the ‘inner sanctum’ of those who rule us will have taken on board what this election has provided.

And what is has said is that ‘those who pay for everything’ are royally pissed off at being taken for patsies,while there is almost full employment, and yet these scrotes are gaming the system big time.

MrMusician18 · 27-10-2018 05:13PM

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

Casey and the electorate used each other. He got a big lift and got 2nd place behind the incumbent who was always going to be a shoe in. People who are sick of the powers that be indulging travellers and scroungers were handed an unexpected opportunity to make their point. We live in a democracy, allegedly, but not all voices get heard most of the time.

It would be an interesting exercise if some journalists went out on the ground and actually talked to the people who voted for Casey. Better than assuming they're all part time members of the KKK or ill educated muck savages.

I think they know that they're not all country bumpkins but for some reason they're afraid to acknowledge it.

Pretty sure the likes of Fintin and Una wouldn't be too happy if our indigenous ethnic grouping decided to culturally enrich the end of their road.

honeybear · 27-10-2018 05:19PM

NOT surprised at strong Tipp Casey vote

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 05:21PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The drop in the odds is to coax more money out of fools. I genuinely can never understand why people fall for this bookie stunt. But anyway...:D

'?

I loved this.

Loads collecting in Paddy Powers this morning when I was counting my winnings.

12/1 without Michilin.

Roger Hassenforder · 27-10-2018 05:36PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I loved this.

Loads collecting in Paddy Powers this morning when I was counting my winnings.

12/1 without Michilin.

Enjoy your winnings and the moral victory!
Well deserved

Donald Trump · 27-10-2018 05:40PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

LoL

Casey wasn't even a single issue candidate....

Freeman was, and it was a very important single issue, and look how poor she did.

20% in a one horse race coming from 1% a week previous screams a win for the protest vote..... But your just too bitter to accept francie.... Seeing as you predicted he'd only get 1%

LMAO at ya

Just wondering about the embedded contradiction in your post.
You admit that he jumped from 1% to 20% in a week.
But then say he wasn't a single-issue candidate.
Can you tell us what other issues he raised in that week that brought him from the 1% to the 20% if it was not the projection of vague demagoguery against travellers and people on the dole?

Genuine question

From what I understand, he had some stance on neutrality and also distancing ourselves from the EU. Which also seemed a bit contradictory - we should form stronger military alliances but not political ....

xi5yvm0owc1s2b · 27-10-2018 05:45PM

Casey on 23.2% now with 35/40 constituencies reporting.

Atoms for Peace · 27-10-2018 05:47PM

I've only heard one politician, Ming Flanagans replacement I think, voice any kind of reasoned thought on why Casey got such a vote. The political class really needs to cop on and stop crying wolf, if they don't the country will pay a high price, just look across the Irish sea to see the fiasco.

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 05:48PM

Trevor Tight Plantation wrote: »

Casey on 23.2% now with 35/40 constituencies reporting.

CASEY PETER
292,686 VOTES
23.2% 1ST PREF.

That was some performance.
Middle Ireland has spoken.

FrancieBrady · 27-10-2018 05:49PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I loved this.

Loads collecting in Paddy Powers this morning when I was counting my winnings.

12/1 without Michilin.

Sorry Tayto...can't let yet another misrepresentation pass.
That was in response to PP dropping the 'winning' outright odds. How did those punters get on? The ones who were cajoled/conned into thinking he had a chance? See any of them collecting winnings?:rolleyes:

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 05:51PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Sorry Tayto...can't let yet another misrepresentation pass.
That was in response to PP dropping the 'winning' outright odds. How did those punters get on? The ones who were cajoled/conned into thinking he had a chance? See any of them collecting winnings?:rolleyes:

Loads collecting Francie.
Surprised you weren't on it yourself. Money for jam as they say.

blinding · 27-10-2018 05:51PM

Trevor Tight Plantation wrote: »

Casey on 23.2% now with 35/40 constituencies reporting.

Absolutely incredible . The Irish Media and Political establishments have taken one hell of a kicking .

FrancieBrady · 27-10-2018 05:53PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Loads collecting Francie.
Surprised you weren't on it yourself. Money for jam as they say.

Loads collecting on Casey winning? My Paddy Power has gotten generous. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

happyoutscan · 27-10-2018 06:08PM

Where did you grow up Francie, if you dont mind me asking?

martingriff · 27-10-2018 06:11PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Loads collecting on Casey winning? My Paddy Power has gotten generous. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Paddy Powers had bets on who would if not Michael D. I call it a great call by them. You sound like Mary Robinson former secretary who doesn't want to believe that people have different opinion that are not the establishments

FrancieBrady · 27-10-2018 06:15PM

happyoutscan wrote: »

Where did you grow up Francie, if you dont mind me asking?

Monaghan

xi5yvm0owc1s2b · 27-10-2018 06:17PM

Love how the media keeps calling Higgins a poet. Can anybody, without Googling, name one single poem by this "poet"?

FrancieBrady · 27-10-2018 06:18PM

martingriff wrote: »

Paddy Powers had bets on who would if not Michael D. I call it a great call by them. You sound like Mary Robinson former secretary who doesn't want to believe that people have different opinion that are not the establishments

Yes, I know that. But the comment Tayto posted to poke his cheap jibe was in relation to PP dropping the odds on Casey 'WINNING' the election by beating MDH.

That is a well versed stunt to cajole more money from the gullible. PP knew, there was no chance of that happening. Nobody who bet on Casey winning collected a cent.

sydthebeat · 27-10-2018 06:18PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Just wondering about the embedded contradiction in your post.
You admit that he jumped from 1% to 20% in a week.
But then say he wasn't a single-issue candidate.
Can you tell us what other issues he raised in that week that brought him from the 1% to the 20% if it was not the projection of vague demagoguery against travellers and people on the dole?

Genuine question

From what I understand, he had some stance on neutrality and also distancing ourselves from the EU. Which also seemed a bit contradictory - we should form stronger military alliances but not political ....

Just like Sean gallagher and Gavin Duffy he was a personality candidate, not an issue candidate.

You wont see one piece of election paraphernalia from casey which states an election issue. Its actually hilarious that this all started from an innocent question he was asked by a journalist and to which he gave his honest opinion stating he believed all Irish people should be treated equally and none should get anything above and beyond anybody else.

So you see, he didn't stand for election on this issue. He wasn't a single issue candidate, he was a no issue candidate. Joan freeman was a single issue candidate. LDR was a party political candidate, as was miggledy.

Donald Trump · 27-10-2018 06:25PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

Just like Sean gallagher and Gavin Duffy he was a personality candidate, not an issue candidate.

You wont see one piece of election paraphernalia from casey which states an election issue. Its actually hilarious that this all started from an innocent question he was asked by a journalist and to which he gave his honest opinion stating he believed all Irish people should be treated equally and none should get anything above and beyond anybody else.

So you see, he didn't stand for election on this issue. He wasn't a single issue candidate, he was a no issue candidate. Joan freeman was a single issue candidate. LDR was a party political candidate, as was miggledy.

Did you vote for him? If so, what made you choose him, given that he has no record of public service and has not issues and this magic personality apparently only emerged within the last week. Or were you just a fan of his from his days on the telly?

I didn't think he came across as an accomplished speaker or orator or well spoken in general. Seemed to be one of the weaker candidates on that front.

Donald Trump · 27-10-2018 06:30PM

blinding wrote: »

Absolutely incredible . The Irish Media and Political establishments have taken one hell of a kicking .

well, to be fair, if he got 49.99% and Mickey-D got 50.01% Casey would still be the loser and the status quo would prevail for another 7 years. By which time someone smarter, louder and "shout-ier" than Casey will have emerged

Last time around, Mickey-D received less than 200k first preference votes more than Sean Gallagher. This time around it currently stands at more than 600k

omega man · 27-10-2018 06:41PM

Leo waffling and deflecting on Casey vote.

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 06:41PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Loads collecting on Casey winning? My Paddy Power has gotten generous. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

As you well know it was 12/1 without Higgins.
As I said, money for jam.

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 06:43PM

Trevor Tight Plantation wrote: »

Love how the media keeps calling Higgins a poet. Can anybody, without Googling, name one single poem by this "poet"?

His poetry is Shyte imo.

Ursus Horribilis · 27-10-2018 06:44PM

I voted for Casey because it was an opportunity to send a message to the establishment that I'm sick of people scrounging off our system. I hate travellers for some very good reasons I shan't go into here. I don't like people who don't do a tap living off my hard earned taxes.

Higgins was never in any danger of losing this election. So it was a protest vote without any consequences. I have no interest whatsoever in Casey beyond what he said. If Duffy or Freeman had said the same thing, I'd have ticked 1 beside their name.

My hope is that this will start the ball rolling higher up the food chain. I'm sick of the Margaret Cash's popping out 7 more leeches for us to pay for while ordinary working people are being scourged.

FrancieBrady · 27-10-2018 06:45PM

tayto lover wrote: »

As you well know it was 12/1 without Higgins.
As I said, money for jam.

Yes, and as you know I was NOT referring to that bet. I was referring to the bet on Casey winning outright.

xi5yvm0owc1s2b · 27-10-2018 06:45PM

tayto lover wrote: »

His poetry is Shyte imo.

I hear his latest collection, Views from my Learjet, isn't too bad.

ednwireland · 27-10-2018 06:47PM

Leo varadkar. Theres a man is like to see out of politics, serial failure in any ministerial portfolio, mister soundbite.

sydthebeat · 27-10-2018 06:53PM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Did you vote for him? If so, what made you choose him, given that he has no record of public service and has not issues and this magic personality apparently only emerged within the last week. Or were you just a fan of his from his days on the telly?

I didn't think he came across as an accomplished speaker or orator or well spoken in general. Seemed to be one of the weaker candidates on that front.

I've said numerous times that the votes for him were protest votes to send a message to the government.
I totally agree that he didn't come across well at all, he wasn't a very good speaker and didn't delve deep into anything.

But that doesn't really matter.

There was a loud and clear message sent.
Even if that message needs to be "we the government need to be a lot more transparent in our social welfare system so myths about €50k spongers etc doesn't set in"......
Either that or take a good look at the issues raised in this election, quantity them, and resolve them.

tayto lover · 27-10-2018 06:54PM

Trevor Tight Plantation wrote: »

I hear his latest collection, Views from my Learjet, isn't too bad.

"The Prophets are Weeping" is very fitting for this thread.

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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