Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

The high horse brigade · 26-10-2018 09:06PM

mikemac2 wrote: »

That’s the last election that clerk will work, will be booted off the panel.

Yeah there'll definitely be an investigation into that one

goat2 · 26-10-2018 09:07PM

Just copy the link twitter.com/EmmaMurphy12150/status/1055908517402566658
d copy it on the bar at top

FrancieBrady · 26-10-2018 09:07PM

Turnout looking like mid 40's.

Danzy · 26-10-2018 09:07PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think he's the one Dragon who could have been president and just blew it yapping on about travellers, his mother and the welfare state.

He started out talking about the diaspora and should have continued talking about future jobs, the need for foreign investment in Ireland- both North and South- and the absolute need to continue investment in education, especially in Science of all disciplines.
We've had 7 years of "the arts"- which is great n all but, time for a new theme- and he blew it!!

What ever chance he has he helped it. The above approach was 2%.

Redneck Culchie · 26-10-2018 09:08PM

mikemac2 wrote: »

That’s the last election that clerk will work, will be booted off the panel.

Wouldn't be surprised if she gets away with it she seems to have deleted her profile, can't make out her full name

Redneck Culchie · 26-10-2018 09:09PM

goat2 wrote: »

Just copy the link twitter.com/EmmaMurphy12150/status/1055908517402566658
d copy it on the bar at top

I cant post URLs as I'm a new user.

honeybear · 26-10-2018 09:09PM

The high horse brigade wrote: »

https://twitter.com/EmmaMurphy12150/status/1055908517402566658

If true, very worrying that someone in plum job behaved like this.

26-10-2018 09:10PM

Danzy wrote: »

What ever chance he has he helped it. The above approach was 2%.

Ah, I don't dispute he raised his election rating by doing what he did. But he really could have positioned himself for election 2025 and very possibly snatched the position from Mickey D in this election, but with a more positive mindset.

FrancieBrady · 26-10-2018 09:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

No. Low turnout means dedicated voters, and that will mostly mean older generation and that will mean Higgins.

I know what you mean, but there is a scenario where a very low turnout of dedicated voters can mask the highly politically motivated. A freak result as it were.
Not suggesting it has happened here.

pumpkin4life · 26-10-2018 09:12PM

If this is true, it looks like the bookies are getting jumpy as well:

https://twitter.com/brianmchb/status/1055898806947065856

This could get interesting.

Spanish Eyes · 26-10-2018 09:12PM

honeybear wrote: »

If true, very worrying that someone in plum job behaved like this.

So bored with the abysmal turnout, had to say something.

I am not impressed. One bit.

golfball37 · 26-10-2018 09:18PM

I put 50e on President elect Casey last week at 16/1 without Michael D. Can’t believe more didn’t fill their boots on this. Some lads I know a day earlier got him at 50s without MDH

FrancieBrady · 26-10-2018 09:18PM

I see the guy on the Ryanair flight says he 'is not racist'.

Can he be our next Prez? Get your bets on now! Just sayin.

*(and do you wanna buy a lottery ticket for de poor?)

honeybear · 26-10-2018 09:19PM

Think there is going to be a huge urban rural divide in those voting for Casey. I know lots of intelligent (& sane) rural dwellers who are voting for Casey. I voted for him but can’t claim to be intelligent (& sane)

gmisk · 26-10-2018 09:19PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think he's the one Dragon who could have been president and just blew it yapping on about travellers, his mother and the welfare state.

He started out talking about the diaspora and should have continued talking about future jobs, the need for foreign investment in Ireland- both North and South- and the absolute need to continue investment in education, especially in Science of all disciplines.
We've had 7 years of "the arts"- which is great n all but, time for a new theme- and he blew it!!

Before he started talking about travellers and welfare he was on 2%...he didn't stand a chance

26-10-2018 09:20PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I know what you mean, but there is a scenario where a very low turnout of dedicated voters can mask the highly politically motivated. A freak result as it were.
Not suggesting it has happened here.

Yeah, we'll both wait and see. Traditionally, in times of low electorate voting, it's the older generation that come out. Goes back to sense of duty and especially, for those around 50+, Eastern Europe and their lack of voting rights.

"The fact we have a vote, it should be exercised"- leaving aside candidates etc for a second, do you thing that still stands in Ireland? It did once upon a time.

gmisk · 26-10-2018 09:24PM

pumpkin4life wrote: »

If this is true, it looks like the bookies are getting jumpy as well:

https://twitter.com/brianmchb/status/1055898806947065856

This could get interesting.

Id take the money....he is 10 to 1 still.
If you are so confident take the money and stick on another bet surely?...

anewme · 26-10-2018 09:25PM

honeybear wrote: »

Think there is going to be a huge urban rural divide in those voting for Casey. I know lots of intelligent (& sane) rural dwellers who are voting for Casey. I voted for him but can’t claim to be intelligent (& sane)

Know loads of urban middle class middle income mortgaged type people voting for him. The type who are fed up with Ms. Cash et al taking home the same pay cheque as them for doing s f a and still wanting more.

26-10-2018 09:25PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I see the guy on the Ryanair flight says he 'is not racist'.

Can he be our next Prez? Get your bets on now! Just sayin.

*(and do you wanna buy a lottery ticket for de poor?)

He's 75. His "buddies" from his work era, said he would never say such a thing. Only wondering has early onset of dementia set in? Some diseases like that can change personality radically. Not excusing him in any way shape or form if no medial issue there. Just wondering.
If it wasn't typical of him in the past, might be other issues now.

I remember some old family friend attending a family wake- they laughed out loud all through the reposing. I was delighted she was there but poor thing, she was suffering from dementia at that stage.

Spanish Eyes · 26-10-2018 09:26PM

honeybear wrote: »

Think there is going to be a huge urban rural divide in those voting for Casey. I know lots of intelligent (& sane) rural dwellers who are voting for Casey. I voted for him but can’t claim to be intelligent (& sane)

It is really all about shutting up the PC overlords no matter where you live, IMO.

FrancieBrady · 26-10-2018 09:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, we'll both wait and see. Traditionally, in times of low electorate voting, it's the older generation that come out. Goes back to sense of duty and especially, for those around 50+, Eastern Europe and their lack of voting rights.

"The fact we have a vote, it should be exercised"- leaving aside candidates etc for a second, do you thing that still stands in Ireland? It did once upon a time.

There could be a surprise, I don't know.
I said earlier, I have worked at having a good cross section of opinion on my twitter and FB and this election has failed to ignite anyone on there. In fact boards.ie does seem like a very intense bubble.

The low turnout doesn't reflect sentiment on boards.ie but it certainly does represent my social media feeds.

It's a curious one. My waters say the incumbent will romp home and Casey will maybe beat Duffy and Freeman...but who knows.

gmisk · 26-10-2018 09:28PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

It is really all about shutting up the PC overlords no matter where you live, IMO.

Peter Casey overlords? Yeah I agree. Most of them on this thread

26-10-2018 09:30PM

gmisk wrote: »

Before he started talking about travellers and welfare he was on 2%...he didn't stand a chance

Well, he didn't know what he knows now. Had he invested money into

"the arts v's Jobs' campaign he might have got even more votes?

26-10-2018 09:35PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There could be a surprise, I don't know.
I said earlier, I have worked at having a good cross section of opinion on my twitter and FB and this election has failed to ignite anyone on there. In fact boards.ie does seem like a very intense bubble.

The low turnout doesn't reflect sentiment on boards.ie but it certainly does represent my social media feeds.

It's a curious one. My waters say the incumbent will romp home and Casey will maybe beat Duffy and Freeman...but who knows.

Yeah, well AH is a law onto itself.

Your FB and Twitter feeds are probably more representative.

My own view is that there will come a tipping point day soon, where the "older vote" will become unpredictable. And it's coming soon as older people can't mobilise to vote and are, quite simply, dying off :P - the people moving into their 50's /60's have yet to be evaluated on their decision making process.

elperello · 26-10-2018 09:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, we'll both wait and see. Traditionally, in times of low electorate voting, it's the older generation that come out. Goes back to sense of duty and especially, for those around 50+, Eastern Europe and their lack of voting rights.

"The fact we have a vote, it should be exercised"- leaving aside candidates etc for a second, do you thing that still stands in Ireland? It did once upon a time.

I'd say you are right about the older voters but it wasn't necessarily a sense of duty or of doing the right thing.

In previous times party workers used to hang around outside Polling Stations and party personation officers were inside some Stations.
Some people would go to vote on the basis that it would be known if you didn't vote. At least if you voted, though they wouldn't know who you voted for, if you were looking for some favour you could hope they would give you the benefit of the doubt.

Redneck Culchie · 26-10-2018 09:36PM

honeybear wrote: »

Think there is going to be a huge urban rural divide in those voting for Casey. I know lots of intelligent (& sane) rural dwellers who are voting for Casey. I voted for him but can’t claim to be intelligent (& sane)

Most rural people would have run ins or dealings with travellers at some stage. Irish Times reporters, people in RTE and other liberal luvvies not so much.

Fr_Dougal · 26-10-2018 09:36PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I see the guy on the Ryanair flight says he 'is not racist'.

Can he be our next Prez? Get your bets on now! Just sayin.

*(and do you wanna buy a lottery ticket for de poor?)

Francie, are you a traveler/settled traveler?

tayto lover · 26-10-2018 09:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, well AH is a law onto itself.

Your FB and Twitter feeds are probably more representative.

My own view is that there will come a tipping point day soon, where the "older vote" will become unpredictable. And it's coming soon as older people can't mobilise to vote and are, quite simply, dying off :P - the people moving into their 50's /60's have yet to be evaluated on their decision making process.

Many of the older voters would have voted for Casey, especially those living in rural areas who are afraid of becoming crime victims.

elperello · 26-10-2018 09:39PM

Redneck Culchie wrote: »

Most rural people would have run ins or dealings with travellers at some stage. Irish Times reporters, people in RTE and other liberal luvvies not so much.

Paddy O'Gorman has met more than most people.
I'm looking forward to his book.

Redneck Culchie · 26-10-2018 09:40PM

anewme wrote: »

Know loads of urban middle class middle income mortgaged type people voting for him. The type who are fed up with Ms. Cash et al taking home the same pay cheque as them for doing s f a and still wanting more.

Maybe the type of person who worked hard all there life in a good job, saved up and bought a house in a nice area. To then find a traveller family given a free house next door and make their life hell.

Happens more than you would think. I think it's entitlement and chip on the shoulder from the Ms Cash, Erica Fleming types that annoy people.

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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