Dogs and babies

steddyeddy · 26-10-2018 08:23PM #1

A friend of mine has recently given birth to a baby girl. She also has a rescue dog that she's rehabilitating. The dog is gentle but is quite large and jumpy. Somehow she thinks it's a good idea to post pics of the dog and the newborn beside each other on the couch.

I don't think that's particularly safe butwhat really gets me is the uploaded picture. I know a few people who do this and I get the impression they're trying to provoke a reaction. Should babies ever be left alone with dogs?

Harry Palmr · 26-10-2018 08:23PM

Only if you're bored with the baby.

BBFAN · 26-10-2018 08:31PM

I would never leave any child alone with any dog because all they have to do is pull their tale and the dog might bite.

However I'm puzzled why you're more disturbed by the picture than the actual fact of the dog lying beside the baby.

salmocab · 26-10-2018 08:33PM

No you shouldn’t and presumably your friend didn’t as they were there to take the photo

SEPT 23 1989 · 26-10-2018 08:34PM

You can never trust a dag

Jack Moore · 26-10-2018 08:34PM

My dogs love my baby

Fr_Dougal · 26-10-2018 08:34PM

They should have gotten a rescue baby.

steddyeddy · 26-10-2018 08:34PM

BBFAN wrote: »

I would never leave any child alone with any dog because all they have to do is pull their tale and the dog might bite.

However I'm puzzled why you're more disturbed by the picture than the actual fact of the dog lying beside the baby.

I'm puzzled because she's the "my dog would never hurt anyone" type and has been in several arguements to that effect. It seems the picture is to provoke. In other words putting her baby in that situation to provoke a reaction.

Roger Hassenforder · 26-10-2018 08:35PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Should babies ever be left alone with dogs?

Dogs are rather poor primary care givers to new born humans, especially when breastfeeding.
An adult female, ideally the mother is best

Dogs are ok with puppies. Which are usually cuter.

RustyNut · 26-10-2018 08:36PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

You can never trust a dag

Or a baby. They should not be left alone imo but it sounds like they weren't in this case. I don't see the problem with pictures of the dog and baby together.

rainbowtrout · 26-10-2018 08:37PM

If she took the photo then she didn't leave the baby alone with the dog, she was there. Or are you suggesting the baby took a selfie with the dog and she's now boasting of her babies abilities?:pac:

Atoms for Peace · 26-10-2018 08:50PM

Sure the only reason people are bothering to reproduce to post pics on social media. That's what happens when you replace catholism and replace it with hollow consumerism.

wexie · 26-10-2018 08:51PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

A friend of mine has recently given birth to a baby girl. She also has a rescue dog that she's rehabilitating. The dog is gentle but is quite large and jumpy.

Few red flags for me here to be honest, rehabilitating from what exactly? If it's any kind of abuse then the dog cannot and should not be trusted with a child other than under close supervision. Not because it's a bad dog but if it's been abused more likely than not it might be fearful and fearful dogs are unpredictable (perhaps not to experts but certainly to babies)

Large and jumpy dogs, no matter how lovely, can hurt small babies purely on account of being large and jumpy dogs....

steddyeddy wrote: »

I'm puzzled because she's the "my dog would never hurt anyone" type and has been in several arguements to that effect.

Well...personally I think that's not a great attitude, you may think it wouldn't hurt anyone (and maybe she's right) but you still need to be cautious of the fact that it can hurt someone and it doesn't take much with a small baby.

And again, especially if the dog is being rehabilitated from any kind of abuse I would be much more careful with it.

Having said all of that, my eldest learned to walk holding onto our very large dog and would have been asleep on top of, against and partially under the dog many times.

But she was a newfy and they have always been great at caring for kids, even employed as nurses

wexie · 26-10-2018 08:53PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Dogs are rather poor primary care givers to new born humans, especially when breastfeeding.
An adult female, ideally the mother is best

Dogs are ok with puppies. Which are usually cuter.

Wolves on the other hand will make your children grow up to be great leaders (and perhaps kill one another

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Gael23 · 26-10-2018 08:56PM

She's in the same room taking the picture so the dog is supervised in which case its not a problem.
I winked never leave a dog unattended with a child though

steddyeddy · 26-10-2018 08:59PM

wexie wrote: »

Wolves on the other hand will make your children grow up to be great leaders (and perhaps kill one another )

And found Rome

. The she-wolf reference in Latin was actually thought to mean "whore".

facehugger99 · 26-10-2018 09:08PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I'm puzzled because she's the "my dog would never hurt anyone" type and has been in several arguements to that effect. It seems the picture is to provoke. In other words putting her baby in that situation to provoke a reaction.

Well she sounds like an idiot. Hope this was helpful.

Raging_Ninja · 26-10-2018 09:27PM

BBFAN wrote: »

I would never leave any child alone with any dog because all they have to do is pull their tale and the dog might bite.

However I'm puzzled why you're more disturbed by the picture than the actual fact of the dog lying beside the baby.

I'm reminded of the infant lying down on the mother, with the husband and greater dane lying on either side. A hiccup startled the dog and it bit and killed the baby.

corner of hells · 26-10-2018 09:43PM

BBFAN wrote: »

I would never leave any child alone with any dog because all they have to do is pull their tale and the dog might bite.

However I'm puzzled why you're more disturbed by the picture than the actual fact of the dog lying beside the baby.

Babies don't have tails , how could a dog do that ?

Seth Brundle · 26-10-2018 09:47PM

wexie wrote: »

He he boobies

seannash · 26-10-2018 09:53PM

wexie wrote: »

Few red flags for me here to be honest, rehabilitating from what exactly? If it's any kind of abuse then the dog cannot and should not be trusted with a child other than under close supervision. Not because it's a bad dog but if it's been abused more likely than not it might be fearful and fearful dogs are unpredictable (perhaps not to experts but certainly to babies)

Large and jumpy dogs, no matter how lovely, can hurt small babies purely on account of being large and jumpy dogs....

Well...personally I think that's not a great attitude, you may think it wouldn't hurt anyone (and maybe she's right) but you still need to be cautious of the fact that it can hurt someone and it doesn't take much with a small baby.

And again, especially if the dog is being rehabilitated from any kind of abuse I would be much more careful with it.

Having said all of that, my eldest learned to walk holding onto our very large dog and would have been asleep on top of, against and partially under the dog many times.

But she was a newfy and they have always been great at caring for kids, even employed as nurses

There you go OP, you've found what you were looking for. Justification of your point of view, now go lambaste your friend and tell her shes an unfit mother.

or........
Just mind your business.....
But what to do with all your unused outrage....... i feel for you on that one.

ceadaoin. · 26-10-2018 09:56PM

I wouldn't have a baby around a dog, supervised or not. It only takes a split second for a dog to turn and there's no way of knowing if they will. Usually when you hear of these attacks it's always a lovely family dog who had never bitten anyone previously.

seannash · 26-10-2018 10:01PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I wouldn't have a baby around a dog, supervised or not. It only takes a split second for a dog to turn and there's no way of knowing if they will. Usually when you hear of these attacks it's always a lovely family dog who had never bitten anyone previously.

Statistically is more harm done to babies by humans or dogs.
If it's humans your logic is flawed.
It only take a split second for a human to turn. Usually when we hear these stories it's a person who is normally a violent individual but they are allowed to reproduce and care for a child.

My point is exceptions should not dictate the rules. Always be aware of the exceptions but by no means accept that they will mean it's gonna be the same outcome.
If we took that attitude no baby, or adult,would travel in a car

Jack Moore · 26-10-2018 10:01PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I wouldn't have a baby around a dog, supervised or not. It only takes a split second for a dog to turn and there's no way of knowing if they will. Usually when you hear of these attacks it's always a lovely family dog who had never bitten anyone previously.

Such gibberish

My dogs and my baby are my family
Like I and my brother were family with out dogs
And my parents and their dogs

It’s normal
It’s basically what dogs are for (watching children at home )
All this stuff is gibberish

In my opinion

Chinasea · 26-10-2018 10:06PM

I applaud her for getting a rescue dog.

steddyeddy · 26-10-2018 10:07PM

seannash wrote: »

There you go OP, you've found what you were looking for. Justification of your point of view, now go lambaste your friend and tell her shes an unfit mother.

or........
Just mind your business.....
But what to do with all your unused outrage....... i feel for you on that one.

It's everyone's business if a kid is put in potential danger.

wexie · 26-10-2018 10:08PM

seannash wrote: »

There you go OP, you've found what you were looking for. Justification of your point of view, now go lambaste your friend and tell her shes an unfit mother

That's certainly not how I intended that to come across but if that's what you want to take away from then fair enough I guess

mad muffin · 26-10-2018 10:09PM

It’s Dingoes you shouldn’t trust alone with a baby. Dogs are fine.

seannash · 26-10-2018 10:13PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

It's everyone's business if a kid is put in potential danger.

And statistics would show it's not in any danger what so ever.
So...............

seannash · 26-10-2018 10:16PM

wexie wrote: »

That's certainly not how I intended that to come across but if that's what you want to take away from then fair enough I guess

What are you basing your danger factor on??t
My take away is you are ignorant to animal behaviour.
Will anything change your mind or are you looking for validation.
I suspect validation is the driving factor.

If not, let's discuss.

gobo99 · 26-10-2018 10:24PM

Iv two rescues and they are bomb proof around the kids. Always was careful introducing new babys to home, dogs are naturally inquisitive. Let them sniff toys clothes etc and don't throw them outside or change too much when baby comes home and they won't feel like their loosing out to/competing with the baby. As time goes by they understand the pecking order in the "pack".
Oldest kid regularly feeds them now and has total respect from them.
The only reason I wouldn't leave them alone with the kids now is that I wouldn't trust the youngest not to be pulling and dragging at them.

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