After Hours Presidential Election Poll

Grayson · 25-10-2018 07:27PM

fergus1001 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/too-many-miles-on-clock-for-president-31248690.html

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/president-michael-d-higgins-gets-11742617

here is your socialist hero

From the first link.

This despite the fact that gardai advised the Aras in writing over a year ago that the President's car, with nearly 300,000km on its odometer, was "no longer fit for purpose" and needed to be replaced as a matter of urgency.

Since then, the 06-registered limousine, and indeed another state car used by Mr Higgins and his wife, Sabina, have both suffered breakdowns, necessitating the leasing of a replacement car which it is understood was used on just one occasion before being returned.

Notwithstanding the clear urgency of the situation, the Sunday Independent understands from an informed source that the process of finding a permanent replacement car for the President has yet to be concluded.

The source denied claims that Mr Higgins had made any demands for a 'new' car, saying that the matter was "being driven, no pun intended, by gardai".

"There is no question that the President made any demand for a new car. He's quite happy to accept whatever model the gardai believe to be suitable," the source added.

So higgins never asked for a new car, the gardai did after they said the existing one wasn't fit for purpose.

elperello · 25-10-2018 07:30PM

fergus1001 wrote: »

because they were pertinent to the claim being made

one thing that did stand out to me though:

The issue of the President's transport has been the subject of some controversy in recent days following the publication of a report which suggested that while he had taken delivery of a brand new Mercedes, he had sent it back with a demand that it be replaced with a "superior model" worth some €40,000 more.

Dig out that report and get back to me.

Grayson · 25-10-2018 07:30PM

fergus1001 wrote: »

because they were pertinent to the claim being made

one thing that did stand out to me though:

The issue of the President's transport has been the subject of some controversy in recent days following the publication of a report which suggested that while he had taken delivery of a brand new Mercedes, he had sent it back with a demand that it be replaced with a "superior model" worth some €40,000 more.

Did you read below that?

The issue of the President's transport has been the subject of some controversy in recent days following the publication of a report which suggested that while he had taken delivery of a brand new Mercedes, he had sent it back with a demand that it be replaced with a "superior model" worth some €40,000 more.

Responding to those claims last Thursday, gardai issued a statement saying: "An Garda Siochana does not comment on the security arrangements relating to the President. However, we would like to clarify that the transport provided to the President is a matter solely for An Garda Siochana. Contrary to what was incorrectly stated in the article, at no stage did the President request a new car."

It baffles me how someone can selectively quote and link a source which disprove them

For Forks Sake · 25-10-2018 07:32PM

fergus1001 wrote: »

I did I'm not the one who made the original claim I just posted links what seems to have been the issue

The claim was

"Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

The waste that went on during Hobbit years was ridiculous. He sent two Mercs back because he couldn't see out the back passenger windows ffs!"

I asked that someone post evidence to back that up, none seems to be forthcoming, in fact all reports seem to point to the contrary.

fergus1001 · 25-10-2018 07:34PM

For Forks Sake wrote:

I asked that someone post evidence to back that up, none seems to be forthcoming, in fact all reports seem to point to the contrary.

yeah the original claim has been disproved

MrMusician18 · 25-10-2018 07:35PM

Grayson wrote: »

From the first link.

So higgins never asked for a new car, the gardai did after they said the existing one wasn't fit for purpose.

They needed to be replaced as a matter of urgency, yet were left to for depreciating in a garage for a year because MDH didn't want to be seen in car with the latest reg.

Choochtown · 25-10-2018 07:36PM

Still waiting for Kevin Finnerty (or anyone else) to back up that ridiculous claim...

kunst nugget · 25-10-2018 07:40PM

Choochtown wrote: »

Seriously?
Is this true?
I don't believe that for a minute.

Michael D is getting my vote tomorrow but if you can link me to a reliable source for this, he's lost my vote.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/too-many-miles-on-clock-for-president-31248690.html

That's as close as I can find. He was replacing a car with 300,000km on the clock tbf.

MrMusician18 · 25-10-2018 07:41PM

Of course we can't forget that MDH decided to give his "special advisor" a job, but not only that, beach the public salary cap.

I suppose that's because Kevin McCarthy was worth it.

For Forks Sake · 25-10-2018 07:42PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/too-many-miles-on-clock-for-president-31248690.html

Can none of you actually read??

Once again:

This despite the fact that gardai advised the Aras in writing over a year ago that the President's car, with nearly 300,000km on its odometer, was "no longer fit for purpose" and needed to be replaced as a matter of urgency.

"There is no question that the President made any demand for a new car. He's quite happy to accept whatever model the gardai believe to be suitable," the source added

Notwithstanding the clear urgency of the situation, the Sunday Independent understands from an informed source that the process of finding a permanent replacement car for the President has yet to be concluded.

The source denied claims that Mr Higgins had made any demands for a 'new' car, saying that the matter was "being driven, no pun intended, by gardai"

For Forks Sake · 25-10-2018 07:43PM

Choochtown wrote: »

Still waiting for Kevin Finnerty (or anyone else) to back up that ridiculous claim...

You'll be waiting I'd say, most of these posts are carried out in a hit-and-run fashion

fergus1001 · 25-10-2018 07:43PM

MrMusician18 wrote:

They needed to be replaced as a matter of urgency, yet were left to for depreciating in a garage for a year because MDH didn't want to be seen in car with the latest reg.

can you get me a link to back that up ??

kunst nugget · 25-10-2018 07:48PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Can none of you actually read??

Once again:

I had edited my original post to add in about the mileage. I'm not one of the ones that was giving out about Miggeldy.

Choochtown · 25-10-2018 07:57PM

kunst nugget wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/too-many-miles-on-clock-for-president-31248690.html

That's as close as I can find. He was replacing a car with 300,000km on the clock tbf.

Any excuse to use an offensive ageist headline.

Choochtown · 25-10-2018 08:10PM

While we're requesting links:

Any for Michael D officially objecting to a halting site?

Any for Michael D spending €10,000 of tax-payers money on grooming his dogs?

Any for Michael D firing tranquilliser darts out of his upstairs toilet window at joggers in Phoenix Park? (As ridiculous as the other claims)

For Forks Sake · 25-10-2018 08:18PM

Choochtown wrote: »

While we're requesting links:

Any for Michael D officially objecting to a halting site?

)

Already been disproven, turns out Casey can't understand names as Gaeilge...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/peter-casey-denies-mixing-up-michael-d-higgins-and-ff-mayor-1.3668462#.W8j55E-V5tc.twitter

Presidential candidate Peter Casey has denied he made a mistake when he accused President Michael D Higgins of having objected to a Traveller halting site in Galway in 1968.

Galway City Council has been unable to shed light on the claim, made during the Virgin Media One presidential debate hosted by Pat Kenny on Wednesday night, despite Mr Casey claiming that the objection was “on the public record”.

However, a former Fianna Fail mayor with a similar surname, businessman Michael O hUiginn, has said that he was one of a majority of councillors who objected to plans by Galway’s local authority in 1968 to provide a hardstand in Rahoon, where Traveller families had been camped.

Mr hUiginn noted that Mr Higgins was not on the council at the time, and he has no recollection of him being involved in what transpired at Rahoon.

A Galway City Council spokesman said that Mr Casey’s reference this week was “too vague”, and also pointed out that Mr Higgins was not an elected member of the local authority at the time.

A spokeswoman for Mr Casey said the candidate stood by his claim, insisting that he had not confused names, and that it was “on the public record for journalists to check”.

pgj2015 · 25-10-2018 08:19PM

has anyone here ever read any of Higgins poetry? is it any good? as good as poetry can be like.

elperello · 25-10-2018 08:19PM

Gotta love the moratorium.
Brings them all out.

ThunbergsAreGo · 25-10-2018 08:22PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

has anyone here ever read any of Higgins poetry? is it any good? as good as poetry can be like.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2011/nov/01/michael-d-higgins-no-poet

haley79 · 25-10-2018 08:32PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

has anyone here ever read any of Higgins poetry? is it any good? as good as poetry can be like.

i read one of his poems over in the farming forestry forum
it's utter scutter

elperello · 25-10-2018 08:36PM

haley79 wrote: »

i read one of his poems over in the farming forestry forum
it's utter scutter

Got a link please.

fergus1001 · 25-10-2018 08:37PM

haley79 wrote:

utter scutter

you should have been a poet yourself

haley79 · 25-10-2018 08:42PM

elperello wrote: »

Got a link please.

its the election thread 5th post

Excert from Michael D's poem "The Betrayal"

Seems he was pissed off too at Presidents taking Jets to destinations at the cost of the welfare class

Nor did you speak too much.
You had broken an attendant’s glasses,
the holy nurse told me,
when you were admitted.
Your father is a very difficult man,
as you must know. And Social Welfare is slow
and if you would pay for the glasses,
I would appreciate it.
It was 1964, just after optical benefit
was rejected by de Valera for poorer classes
in his Republic, who could not afford,
as he did
to travel to Zurich
for there regular tests and their
rimless glasses.

Bonniedog · 25-10-2018 08:47PM

haley79 wrote: »

its the election thread 5th post

Excert from Michael D's poem "The Betrayal"

Seems he was pissed off too at Presidents taking Jets to destinations at the cost of the welfare class

Nor did you speak too much.
You had broken an attendant’s glasses,
the holy nurse told me,
when you were admitted.
Your father is a very difficult man,
as you must know. And Social Welfare is slow
and if you would pay for the glasses,
I would appreciate it.
It was 1964, just after optical benefit
was rejected by de Valera for poorer classes
in his Republic, who could not afford,
as he did
to travel to Zurich
for there regular tests and their
rimless glasses.

Maybe keeping him in the Park be the lesser of two evils if he has less time to be writing his pomes.

elperello · 25-10-2018 08:53PM

haley79 wrote: »

its the election thread 5th post

Excert from Michael D's poem "The Betrayal"

Seems he was pissed off too at Presidents taking Jets to destinations at the cost of the welfare class

Nor did you speak too much.
You had broken an attendant’s glasses,
the holy nurse told me,
when you were admitted.
Your father is a very difficult man,
as you must know. And Social Welfare is slow
and if you would pay for the glasses,
I would appreciate it.
It was 1964, just after optical benefit
was rejected by de Valera for poorer classes
in his Republic, who could not afford,
as he did
to travel to Zurich
for there regular tests and their
rimless glasses.

https://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/poem/item/21563/auto/0/THE-BETRAYAL

This is a link to the full poem.

Takes a strong man to bare his soul writing a poem for his father.

AndrewJRenko · 25-10-2018 08:57PM

haley79 wrote: »

i read one of his poems over in the farming forestry forum
it's utter scutter

Is that the title?

Fann Linn · 25-10-2018 08:59PM

elperello wrote: »

https://www.poetryinternationalweb.net/pi/site/poem/item/21563/auto/0/THE-BETRAYAL

This is a link to the full poem.

Takes a strong man to bare his soul writing a poem for his father.

It is almost as poor as Gerry Adams short stories.

elperello · 25-10-2018 09:01PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

It is almost as poor as Gerry Adams short stories.

Hold the front page.

President accused of writing bad poetry.

McMurphy · 25-10-2018 09:02PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

It is almost as poor as Gerry Adams short stories.

Did Gerry write a story about MDH

Got a link?

AlekSmart · 25-10-2018 09:02PM

Bonniedog wrote: »

Maybe keeping him in the Park be the lesser of two evils if he has less time to be writing his pomes.

Is membership of Aosdana of interest at any point ...?

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