Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

FrancieBrady wrote: »

alan partridge aha wrote: »

A vote of 20%+ for Casey would be a big kick in the stones for FG and FF.

20% on the back of claims that he spoke about 'what everyone believes' would be an abject failure, both by him and those making the claim that 'everyone feels' like he does.

Look at the attempts to get far right parties off the ground in Ireland, no appetite for them at all, will always be a tiny minority for those views.

rovertom wrote: »

I think it was too late to register to vote when people would have realised what was happening here. That was good because a large number of travellers have multiple identities relating to claiming multiple welfare payments. This may have allowed many travellers to see multiple additional votes which would be unfair to casey.
Even the courts cannot identify travellers.

Traveller: It wasn't me Judge.
Judge: Are you John Connor
Traveller: Yes
Judge: Are you John M Connor
Traveller: Yes John Martin. You are looking for John Michael.

Except to claim the dole a person needs a Public Service card which requires several forms of ID to get.
They are pretty strict when you register for one. I wanted to go by my middle name (as that is what I have been known by my whole life) or swap the order as it is on my Staff ID card (photo ID from a University) but because I didn't have enough forms of ID with my Middle name given preference (drivers licence/passport etc all go by Birth cert) I couldn't change it.

But sure don't left facts get in the way of having a go.

Gravelly wrote: »

We'll see tomorrow night, won't we?

Saturday more likely.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

One swallow does not a summer make.

McAleese caused incredible controversy and difficulty when she let the Peace and Reconciliation guff slip.

If you googled that term I asked you to, you would have seen that not ignored it and cherrypicked out what you wanted to see.

If you are honest with yourself you would admit Michael D’s Castro clanged was more controversial than Mc Aleese’s

blinding wrote: »

Casey Number 1

We the people decide what Truth is , not the Political and Media establishment .

Casey Number 1

Thats me convinced....:rolleyes:

Technocentral wrote: »

Look at the attempts to get far right parties off the ground in Ireland, no appetite for them at all, will always be a tiny minority for those views.

Far right?? We don’t even cater for centre right ffs.

Gravelly wrote: »

By your own definition you handily provided:



Now tell me how the "grants" and free money I linked to aren't a "power or privilege"

Take your time and think it through this time.

Grants...are not "power or privilege"...lots of disadvantaged groups get grants and support (immigrants etc), they are not "rights".

Gravelly wrote: »

Yes, several media outlets doing them. The late late show is even doing one.

Nice one. Thanks for that.

Huntergonzo wrote: »

If there is a swing to the right then it's the left's fault as I believe they've gone too far. There's only so much so called 'tolerance' you can take.

The Left that aren't in power, or the secret Left pulling all the real power strings in da country? :rolleyes:

Gravelly wrote: »

Ah, typical leftie. We voted for gay marriage so you are not allowed make valid criticisms of criminal lifestyles of travellers.

You lads do logic poorly.

But... But... Casey never mentioned any of that, he said SEMS made travellers more equal than the rest of us and that travelers are basically people who camp on other people's land.

Are you suggesting Casey really intended to say that??? :eek::eek::eek:

gmisk wrote: »

Grants...are not "power or privilege"...lots of disadvantaged groups get grants and support (immigrants etc), they are not "rights".

LGBT groups get loads of grants.

Awaits rants.

Bannasidhe wrote: »

gmisk wrote: »

Grants...are not "power or privilege"...lots of disadvantaged groups get grants and support (immigrants etc), they are not "rights".

LGBT groups get loads of grants.

Awaits rants.

You forgot the Q and the + you nazi!!!

Deleted User wrote: »

Even with those stats I’m not gonna mimic Casey though and state that Travellers ‘basically live in houses’. It would be wrong of me to do so as it is equally wrong for Casey to say what he said.

What is wrong with questioning why a group of travellers have refused to move into houses provided for them because they are not getting special treatment, ala provision of stables and land for grazing ?

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

He won`t get anywhere near 20%. 13 -14% at most and that is not taking account of the strong possibility that Michael D supporters who may originally not have bothered voting now do turn out at the polls.

Actually this got me thinking.

If you look at Mickie D's support it is from 4 political parties, but the party leadership telling it's supporters to vote for someone of another party is not the same as real support for one of their own.
There are going to be a fair few FF and FG members/supporters who would have been lukewarm voters for Higgins and now they have an alternative, an alternative that resonates with lots of rural voters especially.

Also there were some in those parties who felt that they should have stood a candidate themselves.
They could do an old protest vote of sorts to stick it to the leadership.

So it could get very interesting.

Technocentral wrote: »

Look at the attempts to get far right parties off the ground in Ireland, no appetite for them at all, will always be a tiny minority for those views.

What was once termed conservative is now labelled by some, especially in media and around here, as being far right and nazis.
There is a middle ground in Ireland that some are refusing to acknowledge and because they are being ignored, hell now as we see lambasted, they are going to start looking for someone, anyone, to voice their concerns.