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Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Royal Legend


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    There is other family's of Casey's in Limerick Peter should be more ashamed and embarrassed of.

    Yeah, nearly got a smack off one of them a few years ago for asking him to pay for something he was stealing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,430 ✭✭✭sonic85


    elperello wrote: »
    Security and logistics are not a red herring.
    Getting the head of State to his destination safely and home again in one piece is an operation entirely depending on security and logistics.

    I did mention the training aspect as well as the hours.
    Having real operational experience within our own country is important.

    I agree that it is only minor enough in the grand scheme.

    Ah come on now he's going to Kerry and Belfast he's not walking down through downtown Detroit at one in the morning. A trip to Kerry would need very little security and the PSNI would provide security for him up North. Like I said he just didn't want to go by car. I'm sure the crew are training all the time outside ferrying MDH around - theyre not waiting for the latest 20 minute trip to Belfast to get experience.

    If you have no issue with it that's fine but it annoys the hell out of me TBH. I expect more from those in power - especially when they are constantly preaching to us little folk how we should live our lives.

    Anyway I'm out.


  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Omackeral wrote: »
    He said he wouldn't want to live beside Travellers, as in a camp site. Eh yeah, I'd wager most people wouldn't. I'd say you yourself really wouldn't. Give out about it if you want but you know you wouldn't fancy it and neither would your family. FWIW, I thought they were all telling porkies too and that rubs me up the wrong way.

    Is that or is that not a generalised attack on travelers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,430 ✭✭✭sonic85


    Omackeral wrote: »
    He said he wouldn't want to live beside Travellers, as in a camp site. Eh yeah, I'd wager most people wouldn't. I'd say you yourself really wouldn't. Give out about it if you want but you know you wouldn't fancy it and neither would your family. FWIW, I thought they were all telling porkies too and that rubs me up the wrong way.

    Proper disingenuous - I'd nearly go as far to say downright liars the lot of them. That was the point I said I'd vote for Peter. If a halting site appeared next to any of their houses I'd say theyd be the first onto the guards and their local council to get it sorted. How they kept a straight face while saying it baffles me TBH


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭Calhoun


    sonic85 wrote: »
    Proper disingenuous - I'd nearly go as far to say downright liars the lot of them. That was the point I said I'd vote for Peter. If a halting site appeared next to any of their houses I'd say theyd be the first onto the guards and their local council to get it sorted. How they kept a straight face while saying it baffles me TBH

    That's not exactly how its done politically, you see you must lodge and objection with the council ect stating that the facilities in your area would not suit them. At the same time you look down on anyone else that objects and call them racists.

    All proper and above board like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,591 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    sonic85 wrote: »
    Proper disingenuous - I'd nearly go as far to say downright liars the lot of them. That was the point I said I'd vote for Peter. If a halting site appeared next to any of their houses I'd say theyd be the first onto the guards and their local council to get it sorted. How they kept a straight face while saying it baffles me TBH

    MDH lives very close to a halting site (according to somebody here who lives near him) and has engaged with them throughout his political life.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Is that or is that not a generalised attack on travelers

    It's saying you wouldn't want to live next to a Traveller site. Is saying you wouldn't wanna live next to a college dorm an attack on students?

    More to the point, would you live next to a Traveller site or have an issue with a load of caravans pulling up outside your gaff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭zeebre12


    Earlier on in the campaign didn't Peter Caseys mention about giving his salary to different charities every month or something? I didn't hear anything about it in the debates. Did he mention it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    sonic85 wrote: »
    Ah come on now he's going to Kerry and Belfast he's not walking down through downtown Detroit at one in the morning. A trip to Kerry would need very little security and the PSNI would provide security for him up North. Like I said he just didn't want to go by car. I'm sure the crew are training all the time outside ferrying MDH around - theyre not waiting for the latest 20 minute trip to Belfast to get experience.

    If you have no issue with it that's fine but it annoys the hell out of me TBH. I expect more from those in power - especially when they are constantly preaching to us little folk how we should live our lives.

    Anyway I'm out.
    It is a tough trip driving to Kerry, fine you have the motorway down to Adare, passing through Adare is tedious most of the time, then down past Rathkale, which is now bypassed onto Abbeyfeale again slowd down, onto C, Island onto Tralee both bypassed, But add the return journey in, it is a tedious run


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭Royal Legend


    MDH lives very close to a halting site (according to somebody here who lives near him) and has engaged with them throughout his political life.

    Just a thought, but the amount you post on here Francie leads me to believe that you are more than one person posting and that you are spinning for MDH.
    You seem to know a lot about his expenses, his home/private life and are intent on attacking Casey at every opportunity,
    No polls in the last week of an election, unheard of previously, looks like you are running scared of Casey and just how well he might actually be doing

    Anyway, have to get to bed now, work tomorrow and today was a long day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    MDH lives very close to a halting site (according to somebody here who lives near him) and has engaged with them throughout his political life.


    Which of his 3 properties is near a halting site?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,591 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Just a thought, but the amount you post on here Francie leads me to believe that you are more than one person posting and that you are spinning for MDH.
    You seem to know a lot about his expenses, his home/private life and are intent on attacking Casey at every opportunity,
    No polls in the last week of an election, unheard of previously, looks like you are running scared of Casey and just how well he might actually be doing

    Anyway, have to get to bed now, work tomorrow and today was a long day.

    I see the conspiracy theories are being lined up to excuse in the event Casey doesn't do as expected. :)

    I am delighted in one way, at least it isn't 'shinner bot' and 'Parnell Sq paying my wages'.

    Or maybe I am just a mercenary, available to the highest bidder? Wonder would Casey have much spare cash lying around? :rolleyes:

    BTW, small points of order yet again. I know nothing of MDH's expenses, I related my experience of dealing with the president's office under another president.
    And I only know he lives near a halting site because he said it on the first TV debate and another poster confirmed it. Both could have been lying about something easily checked I suppose.

    And you are right - As a lifelong democrat, Casey as President scares the hell out of me, that is why I am passionately against him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,591 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    Which of his 3 properties is near a halting site?

    No idea. Perhaps the original poster will reveal if they are still reading. Higgins said it himself as well by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    No idea. Perhaps the original poster will reveal if they are still reading. Higgins said it himself as well by the way.

    Do you ever leave boards Francie?, you really need to take a break.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    1 more sleep after tonight, and we might have a new man at the helm,
    Well how are we going to be voting in the Blasphemy, I am undecided on this one.
    I need help on my decision on the Blasphemy part of this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭haley79


    goat2 wrote: »
    1 more sleep after tonight, and we might have a new man at the helm,
    Well how are we going to be voting in the Blasphemy, I am undecided on this one.
    I need help on my decision on the Blasphemy part of this.

    i wanted to retain the blasphemy law but i see Ali selim from clonskeagh mosk wants to keep it too
    whatever he wants i will vote the opposite


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    Excuse my ignorance
    Blasphemy means, slandering other religions, is this right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Conservative


    Presumably Boards.ie and other online platforms are subject to tomorrow's moratorium so here goes..

    A low turnout has to be a positive for Casey as from everything I can see online the only significant portion of voters who are truly exercised enough to really care about this election are his supporters - aside from the few stalker-ish type weirdos on here and Twitter who reply to everything supportive of anyone other than SF or Michael D.

    I do wish the candidate was somebody more articulate and capable of putting across the views that are common amongst the average person I encounter but he has started something.

    I spend the majority of my time between one of the ****tiest most sectarian places in the north, a working class town in Louth and a well to do area in South Dublin and I've yet to meet an intelligent informed person who's moral compass was accurately portrayed by the daily outrage in the media.

    The only vote that will make a difference is a vote for Casey!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭haley79


    Presumably Boards.ie and other online platforms are subject to tomorrow's moratorium so here goes..

    A low turnout has to be a positive for Casey as from everything I can see online the only significant portion of voters who are truly exercised enough to really care about this election are his supporters - aside from the few stalker-ish type weirdos on here and Twitter who reply to everything supportive of anyone other than SF or Michael D.

    I do wish the candidate was somebody more articulate and capable of putting across the views that are common amongst the average person I encounter..

    I spend the majority of my time between one of the ****tiest most sectarian places in the north, a working class town in Louth and a well to do area in South Dublin and I've yet to meet an intelligent informed person who's moral compass was accurately portrayed by the daily outrage in the media.

    The only vote that will make a difference is a vote for Casey!

    #caseynumber1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    goat2 wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance
    Blasphemy means, slandering other religions, is this right

    It means saying things like “god is a bollix’.

    Oops...


  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Omackeral wrote: »
    It's saying you wouldn't want to live next to a Traveller site. Is saying you wouldn't wanna live next to a college dorm an attack on students?

    More to the point, would you live next to a Traveller site or have an issue with a load of caravans pulling up outside your gaff?

    My opinion of living beside them is irrelevant.

    You claimed Casey did not make an attack on travelers which I obviously think is bs.

    Yes, I'd say that is a generalised attack on students if I said I wouldn't want to live beside them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭jace_da_face


    goat2 wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance
    Blasphemy means, slandering other religions, is this right

    No that is not right. You can’t slander a religion. You can slander a person. Removing blasphemy from the constitution means that one is free to make comment on or criticize a religion, which may cause offense. In other words ‘Free speech’. The Danish cartoons depicting Mohamed or indeed the Charlie Hebdo publications would likely never have happened here because of our blasphemy laws.


  • Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its a while ago now since Peter Casey’s original remarks that Travellers were ‘basically people camped in someone else’s land’. Does he mean illegally camped? Even a cursary look at the CSO stats would show this not to be the case, so why say it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    haley79 wrote: »
    i wanted to retain the blasphemy law but i see Ali selim from clonskeagh mosk wants to keep it too
    whatever he wants i will vote the opposite

    Nice to see you have a rational way of making decisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,934 ✭✭✭goat2


    No that is not right. You can’t slander a religion. You can slander a person. Removing blasphemy from the constitution means that one is free to make comment on or criticize a religion, which may cause offense. In other words ‘Free speech’. The Danish cartoons depicting Mohamed or indeed the Charlie Hebdo publications would likely never have happened here because of our blasphemy laws.

    Thank you for clearing that up for me.
    I had asked that of at least three people already verbally, and they did not know what it was all about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭jace_da_face


    Its a while ago now since Peter Casey’s original remarks that Travellers were ‘basically people camped in someone else’s land’. Does he mean illegally camped? Even a cursary look at the CSO stats would show this not to be the case, so why say it?

    The CSO has stats on who slept where last night? Please show us what you mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,224 ✭✭✭alaimacerc


    Its a while ago now since Peter Casey’s original remarks that Travellers were ‘basically people camped in someone else’s land’. Does he mean illegally camped? Even a cursary look at the CSO stats would show this not to be the case, so why say it?

    It's not true, but there's lots of angry people that badly want it to be true.
    And some of them even prepared to vote for a spoofer on the basis of them saying it. So, all the incentive such a person would need. Look at the results: straight from sixth to second, if the bookies are correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    goat2 wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance
    Blasphemy means, slandering other religions, is this right

    Quick google shows.
    the act or offence of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.

    And the constitution says
    the publication or utterance of blasphemous, seditious, or indecent matter is an offence which shall be punishable in accordance with law.

    So saying Jesus, Mary and Fcuking Joseph would probably count.


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  • Posts: 4,896 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The CSO has stats on who slept where last night? Please show us what you mean.

    2016 census. Profile 8: Irish Travellers. Not seeing anything there to back up Casey’s remarks. Can you?


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