RTE Prime Time Presidential Debate Tues 23.10.18

23-10-2018 10:15PM

"maybe in 7 years time we'll have 3 candidates from Ireland's fittest family"

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SimonTemplar · 23-10-2018 10:15PM

Odds on Paddy Power:

Michael D Higgins 1/50
Sean Gallagher 25/1
Peter Casey 33/1
Liadh Ni Riada 40/1
Joan Freeman 150/1
Gavin Duffy 200/1

Casey was 500/1 last week at abject last position.

His rise is based on pretty much one single issue. It is a good barometer of how the general public feels about this issue in question.

Try_harder · 23-10-2018 10:15PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Is it ethical for the government to take up to 47% of your salary as Tax?
Is it ethical for them to take 33% on capital gains tax if you sell a property or inheritance tax - which of course you've paid tax on when you bought the property, and the LPT etc.

To be that is daylight robbery.

So if individuals find loopholes then I have no problem with them using it. Given the amount of money civil servants are paid and consultant firms, there shouldn't be any loopholes out there for people to take advantage of.

Everyone would use a loophole to pay less tax, if they knew about it.

So should Margaret Cash not be lauded then for finding her loopholes by that logic?

Hurrache · 23-10-2018 10:16PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Is it ethical for the government to take up to 47% of your salary as Tax?
Is it ethical for them to take 33% on capital gains tax if you sell a property or inheritance tax - which of course you've paid tax on when you bought the property, and the LPT etc.

To be that is daylight robbery.

So if individuals find loopholes then I have no problem with them using it. Given the amount of money civil servants are paid and consultant firms, there shouldn't be any loopholes out there for people to take advantage of.

Everyone would use a loophole to pay less tax, if they knew about it.

All well good if you're willing to pay fully for your kids education, if you have any, and are happy for mandatory health care and pensions, you can't be expecting the state to worry about any of that.

fritzelly · 23-10-2018 10:16PM

An independent audit committee at what expense - ffs!

Try_harder · 23-10-2018 10:16PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Answer me this - what has what tax you pay got to do with being the President?

Are you contributing to Ireland basically

Defaulter1831 · 23-10-2018 10:16PM

Desparately poor candidates bar MDH and LNiR when she bothers.

I remember 1990. Brian Lenihan Snr, Mary Robinson and the weakest candidate Austin Currie.

_Kaiser_ · 23-10-2018 10:16PM

My view so far..

- the two ladies are desperately trying to seem relevant and failing

- MDH has problems with being questioned

- Gallagher and Duffy are spoofers

- Casey is unrehearsed and unpolished... But he's defending himself well against constant attacks (from the other candidates and the host) and not getting dragged into the squabbling, and all the better for it

irishchris · 23-10-2018 10:16PM

Typical RTE bias in their interviews and debates. Let the Government/president slide through interviews without asking the hard questions but try to blacken/discredit any form of opposition parties/individuals particularly sf.

Mervyn Skidmore · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

Actually how about a joint presidency next time, Podge and Rodge.

Berserker · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

Try_harder wrote: »

The left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing

Or all their memberships

Or their expenses

Oh, I know. It's not even a democratic organisation. The plebs are told what way to vote and they peddle that out as democracy. Plenty of examples out there in the media of what happens when they dare to disagree.

touts · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

It just occurred to me each of these ads have someone more impressive than at least one of the 6 candidates in the debate and one of the ads just features two orangutans scratching themselves.

sligojoek · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

So she takes home less than Margaret Cash.

Ya but I bet she doesn't shop in Penneys.

Try_harder · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

Berserker wrote: »

Oh, I know. It's not even a democratic organisation. The plebs are told what way to vote and they peddle that out as democracy. Plenty of examples out there in the media of what happens when they dare to disagree.

No elections! The wommenz are in (but must be referred to the are comhairle)

Wombatman · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

NiRiada said she want to be the voice of the marginalised. Please don't let her be the VOICE of anything. Very close to Mrs. Doyle's falsetto.

sonic85 · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

Try_harder wrote: »

Run as an MEP

I don't have the neck for politics.

Plus I actually want to work for my wage

fritzelly · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

Try_harder wrote: »

Are you contributing to Ireland basically

No, a dig at anyone that has business outside of Ireland

James 007 · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

I earn a net salary of $60k, I have a house in Dublin, one in the Gaeltacht and an apartment in Brussels, all to heat and run, 3 housemaids, and a family of 5 to feed and I'm telling you, you ought to try it sometime.

Wheres Me Jumper? · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

SimonTemplar · 23-10-2018 10:17PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

My view so far..

- the two ladies are desperately trying to seem relevant and failing

- MDH has problems with being questioned

- Gallagher and Duffy are spoofers

- Casey is unrehearsed and unpolished... But he's defending himself well against constant attacks (from the other candidates and the host) and not getting dragged into the squabbling, and all the better for it

Spot on, in my opinion

Utopia Parkway · 23-10-2018 10:18PM

McCullagh has had a cut off everyone apart from Michael D so far.

Ace2007 · 23-10-2018 10:18PM

Try_harder wrote: »

How much are civil servants paid? Not a whole pile.

Depends which ones you are talking about, the ones advising the government are getting well paid.

It's obv i'm not talking about teachers, nurses etc.

weldoninhio · 23-10-2018 10:18PM

Jesus, Joan is tedious.

no.8 · 23-10-2018 10:18PM

gmisk wrote:

Why is casey so obsessed with the diaspora?!? F#ck em. Diasprabook.... Zzz... A billion ffs lol. For someone who proclaims to be in tech sector he seems a tad clueless.

gmisk wrote:

Casey is all bluster and no substance, don't think he is having a good night, a lot of his points are incoherent and scatter shot.... And a wee job for the wife great. He managed to name some woman from a page wow.

gmisk wrote:

I actually think liadh nÃ Riada has done well when she has spoke here but hasn't been given much chance to speak.

Many of us care actually.
He could contribute more I agree.
No, just no. She is not a contender (populist nonsense)

Yillan · 23-10-2018 10:18PM

What's going on here?

Hurrache · 23-10-2018 10:18PM

irishchris wrote: »

Typical RTE bias in their interviews and debates. Let the Government/president slide through interviews without asking the hard questions but try to blacken/discredit any form of opposition parties/individuals particularly sf.

Another poster just tuning in or waking up.

take everything · 23-10-2018 10:18PM

Where's Kodos.
I'm sick of this crowd

fritzelly · 23-10-2018 10:19PM

OK did I miss it but was the question about tax asked to MDH? Or was that an opportune ad break?

Berserker · 23-10-2018 10:19PM

sonic85 wrote: »

I don't have the neck for politics.

Plus I actually want to work for my wage

Used to chat to a lady on the train to Cork when I lived down there. She always told me I'd make a great politician. I took it as a compliment for ages. I'm beginning to question that as each election passes.

Try_harder · 23-10-2018 10:19PM

sonic85 wrote: »

I dont have the neck for politics.

Plus I actually want to work for my wage

Well than you cant abuse them for running and winning

RTE Prime Time Presidential Debate Tues 23.10.18

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