Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

SafeSurfer · 22-10-2018 08:22PM

milennial wrote: »

@breakingnews911
gavin duffy to drop an expenditure bombshell on michael Higgins on tomorows debate
is this the end of president higgins

paddy power is sh1tting brix

I always thought it would be the revelation of a certain long hidden personal peccadillo that would have torpedoed the Higgins campaign.

rovertom · 22-10-2018 08:23PM

Casey 56 percent
MDH 29 percent

ShaneC93 · 22-10-2018 08:23PM

milennial wrote: »

gavin duffy to drop an expenditure bombshell on michael Higgins on tomorows debate
is this the end of president higgins

paddy power is sh1tting brix

Can't find a source for that. 'Fake news' from yourself I presume.

Spanish Eyes · 22-10-2018 08:23PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

I always thought it would be the revelation of a certain long hidden personal peccadillo that would have torpedoed the Higgins campaign.

Never will be mentioned. EVAH. But we all know don't we.... wink.

ShaneC93 · 22-10-2018 08:26PM

Not usually one for the betting but might be of some use sticking a few quid onto Casey now with these poll results with him being at 40/1.

I still think it's likely MDH will win with Casey seeing a good increase in support and help spark a debate in the media / public over the fact that many do share his concerns / thoughts.

hurler32 · 22-10-2018 08:29PM

jbkenn wrote: »

Limerick Leader newspaper are running an online poll at the moment, https://www.limerickleader.ie/poll/home/343353/leader-poll-who-are-you-voting-for-in-the-upcoming-presidential-election.htmlinteresting results so far.
Peter Casey 53%
Michael D 31%
The change divided by the rest

Limerick city and county is one of the worst affected county’s from traveller crime with the Dundon’s etc so no surprise there .

The main parties before the next general election will have to revisit their head in the sand approach to traveller crime as this matter is not going away .

Tell me how · 22-10-2018 08:32PM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Have to laugh at the people trying to tell us that a vote for Casey, even if elected is pointless, because it won't change anything.......

What change will take place if MDH is given a free pass to waltz the corridors of the Phoenix park reciting poetry for another 7 years

Bit hypocritical, no?

None. That's the point.

Let Casey (or you, or whoever) pick an election where if they win they can do something about what they speak about.

FixdePitchmark · 22-10-2018 08:34PM

rovertom wrote: »

Casey 56 percent
MDH 29 percent

what is this ?

chances of being alive in 10 years ?

JeffKenna · 22-10-2018 08:35PM

hurler32 wrote: »

Limerick city and county is one of the worst affected county’s from traveller crime with the Dundon’s etc so no surprise there .

The main parties before the next general election will have to revisit their head in the sand approach to traveller crime as this matter is not going away .

Not so sure about that, anyone I know from Limerick is pretty pleased how the city has cleaned up in the last number of years. This could represent a more national trend.

goat2 · 22-10-2018 08:36PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

The Prez elections are brilliant for throwing up the unexpected. I suppose it's because it is so focused on a handful of candidates as opposed to hundreds in the Dail elections.

I am enjoying it anyway for better or for worse. And no doubt we have Mr. Casey to thank for opening up the can of worms, might make the other candidates use similar tactics. The people need a voice.

I did enjoy the last presidential election, and did not think anything would come near
But, this one tops it,
I am glad P Casey stayed in the running, before all this controversy he was my number one, and since then he defiantly is my number one.

Poor Michael D is getting a scorching, but he did say he was in it for the one only stint in the last election, should have stuck to his promise then

Yer Da sells Avon · 22-10-2018 08:36PM

milennial wrote: »

leo the liar and all the brown nosers above in RTE think we're a load of thicks below in the country

Why on earth would they think such a thing?

milennial wrote: »

peter casey will put manners on them and i hope he re-opens spike island and sends all of rte and the sycophants in rte out there

Yes, that's definitely within the president's purview.

AlekSmart · 22-10-2018 08:38PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I would first of all be sending a few gardai and co co officials to study sites that are well kept and why.

Clearly it can be done. A mixture of enablement and enforcement and education.

Send Gardai to the well kept sites....Why ?

I find it had to understand why the GARDAI would need to interest themselves with the Law Abiding sector of the community,whilst on several sites,the local Gards have first to secure top-cover before entering.

Would this be the meaning of "enablement" in your context ?

weldoninhio · 22-10-2018 08:41PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Now we await the claims of Russia interfering in the election

Bloodthirsty dictator who has no problem murdering his own citizens?? Surely Mickey D is a fan??

FrancieBrady · 22-10-2018 08:44PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

Send Gardai to the well kept sites....Why ?

I find it had to understand why the GARDAI would need to interest themselves with the Law Abiding sector of the community,whilst on several sites,the local Gards have first to secure top-cover before entering.

Would this be the meaning of "enablement" in your context ?

Clearly it is possible to keep sites clean.

Send the Gardai and LA officials to learn from the LA's that run those sites.

I would imagine it is a mixture of enforcement, education on what is expected and enabling them to look after the sites. Gardai need training in dealing with what is a community suspicious of them and they themselves admit that is a huge problem.

What would you do by the way?

Danzy · 22-10-2018 08:45PM

Michael D to be shown laundering for the Kinahans via expenses, involved in wet work as well. Drops to 55% support

wexie · 22-10-2018 08:47PM

Danzy wrote: »

Michael D to be shown laundering for the Kinahans via expenses, involved in wet work as well. Drops to 55% support

Well....he's the right size to get in and out of tight places.

enricoh · 22-10-2018 08:48PM

AnneFrank wrote: »

He will get the uneducated vote only, never a chance to win or even compete,but he's got publicity which is all he wanted, bang for his buck in terms of campaign spend.

The uneducated vote, oh dear.
Fianna Fáil, Fianna Gael, Labour Party, trade unions, RTÉ all with the snouts in the taxpayer trough trying to get us to vote for the highly educated snout of mickey D!

PokeHerKing · 22-10-2018 08:49PM

FrancieBrady wrote:

Send the Gardai and LA officials to learn from the LA's that run those sites.

Maybe the Gards could just go in and clean the sites themselves Francie?

tayto lover · 22-10-2018 08:51PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Clearly it is possible to keep sites clean.

Send the Gardai and LA officials to learn from the LA's that run those sites.

I would imagine it is a mixture of enforcement, education on what is expected and enabling them to look after the sites. Gardai need training in dealing with what is a community suspicious of them and they themselves admit that is a huge problem.

What would you do by the way?

Would be a great job for Pavee Point workers.
They could educate as they clean.
Please suggest this to Martin Collins.

AlekSmart · 22-10-2018 08:51PM

enricoh wrote: »

The uneducated vote, oh dear.
Fianna Fáil, Fianna Gael, Labour Party, trade unions, RTÉ all with the snouts in the taxpayer trough trying to get us to vote for the highly educated snout of mickey D!

Yeah.....as somebody who left school after the Inter Cert ("A" in English though) I'm happy enough to align myself with the Uneducated camp.I don't feel any less Franked for it either.

Peter Casey No 1

dark crystal · 22-10-2018 08:52PM

I do believe Peter Casey has some very good points when it comes to traveller culture. They do illegally camp (trespass) and the vast majority of them do not contribute to the taxman's purse. The situation in Tipperary is an unmitigated disgrace to all the genuine people waiting to be housed all over the country.
Let's be brutally honest here, not one of these candidates would buy a house anywhere near a halting site and anyone who's ever lived in close proximity to one could tell you why. It does no one any good, including the travellers themselves, to bury their heads in the sand and pretend there aren't major issues within the travelling community.

I won't be giving Casey my No.1 simply because of his views on abortion, however I do think some of his points have merit and I reckon his showing in the election may surprise some come Friday. He won't win, but it may prompt a frank and honest debate on traveller culture within the media....or maybe not. It does seem to be a particularly untouchable subject amongst the political class. It would be nice if it became less so.

Philosophy Zombie · 22-10-2018 08:53PM

Danzy wrote: »

Michael D to be shown laundering for the Kinahans via expenses, involved in wet work as well. Drops to 55% support

Are you getting mixed up with Bertie Ahern's deceased mate - Jim Mansfield?!

All rotten to the core tbh.

lalababa · 22-10-2018 08:55PM

What's the story with did or did not MD Higgs object to a halting site back in the 60's?????
Haven't seen anything 'bout it since the "debate"

ThunbergsAreGo · 22-10-2018 08:57PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

They don't own the land (I think Wicklow Co. Council might - it used to be a road) - it's an 'illegal' halting site, but they've been there so long (and keep it so tidy) that nobody seems to mind.

Another tidy one here.

So they are living on someone else's land without paying rent ??

goat2 · 22-10-2018 08:57PM

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Maybe the Gards could just go in and clean the sites themselves Francie?

I know a couple sites, and I can honestly say, they are well kept, very neat and clean,
The people that live on them are there a long time.

lalababa · 22-10-2018 08:59PM

lalababa wrote: »

What's the story with did or did not MD Higgs object to a halting site back in the 60's?????
Haven't seen anything 'bout it since the "debate"

Scratch that: I see he was confused with someone with a similar name. And MDH didn't object.

FixdePitchmark · 22-10-2018 09:00PM

What Peter Casey said was unacceptable.

But there is a serious conversation for the travelling community to have about being responsible for their own actions. Yes they need to be responsible for their own ethnic group , if they want to be considered a normal part of the community.

I've been to a number of building sites over the last year - and small builders are tormented by them coming on site, stealing very expensive tools.
I've been approached by them - and if you are soft they intimidate you , if you are hard they stand up to you and come back. What the f*** are they doing on a site in the first place. It is pure intimidation.

And before anyone says - how do you know they are travelers , lads come on , you know when you are dealing with a traveler.

Now there are a few that are out for a decent days work - but at the end of the day, they turn up walk on site without any permission ppe and unmarked vans.

My own view is the government need a policy to make it illegal to provide any service without a government tag or company markings on van.
Guys in the trades would love this and it would clear all this up .

Also - if they are taking scarp - it is total uncontrolled waste disposal. This is environmentally disastrous , particularly when they are melting plastics in uncontrolled fires.

Was told at weekend , that there are car dealers in Tipperary that need to buy Christmas presents for the local travelers kids, if you don't buy - your business it at risk over the Christmas - 100 % true story.

What Casey said was unacceptable - but the behavior of a significant minority of travelers is not acceptable. If kids grow up in that environment , it is no wonder they end up in prison.

SEPT 23 1989 · 22-10-2018 09:00PM

CASEY NO 1

ShaneC93 · 22-10-2018 09:00PM

A debate between Margaret and Peter Casey? Now that's something I'd like to see.

jace_da_face · 22-10-2018 09:04PM

lalababa wrote: »

Scratch that: I see he was confused with someone with a similar name. And MDH didn't object.

Source please?

Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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