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Mart Price Tracker

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  • #2552
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    From a buyers perspective, great value now in stores compared to weanlings. Why would a lad carry stock for an extra winter? Now to be fair a weanling isnt hard kept in feed, but still if u dont have to. For a couple hundred extra you have an animal that is half beefed and you can see their potential.

    Buying weanlings at those night sales.... arrive home in the dark, where could u put them but straight into a shed? Then it's a lotto as to whether they've been weaned or not.

    Pneumonia is a serious risk that u dont really run into with stores. With these new mart rules, sure if you arrive late to a weanling sale and miss the viewing time, its a complete lotto and u buy at your pearl based on 2min in the ring.


  • #2553
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    A lot of calves coming through my local mart with May and June DOBs. They'd far exceed feb and march ones. Hard get a calf into big weight in this instance.


  • #2554
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,961 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Mod note;

    I've pulled a few posts from this thread on creep feeding into a seperate thread here, https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=108392168#post108392168

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #2555
    josephsoap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    Anyone have any idea what €/KG cull/dry cows are making at the mo?


  • #2556
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Anyone have any idea what €/KG cull/dry cows are making at the mo?

    Size age breed?? Sales are small down here still and they're dearer than what they should be(too late for this year too early for next) . Also the bonners are a good trade which is keeping a high floor on it.


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  • #2557
    Fine Day
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭Fine Day


    What kind of money are spring 17 born Angus/Hereford heifers making now. Say 370 to 400kgs weight. Wasn't at a mart for a few weeks. There were very poor 3 or 4 weeks ago.


  • #2558
    Pidae.m
    Closed Accounts Posts: 851 ✭✭✭Pidae.m


    Theheff wrote: »
    What kind of money are spring 17 born Angus/Hereford heifers making now. Say 370 to 400kgs weight. Wasn't at a mart for a few weeks. There were very poor 3 or 4 weeks ago.

    Last week aa off fr cows 380 730. 440 made 840 off grass with zero meal


  • #2559
    charolais0153
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭charolais0153


    Theheff wrote: »
    What kind of money are spring 17 born Angus/Hereford heifers making now. Say 370 to 400kgs weight. Wasn't at a mart for a few weeks. There were very poor 3 or 4 weeks ago.

    500_600


  • #2560
    cute geoge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    nice '17 whitehead heifers 360kg made €500 on the button down in kerry last week but i would say trade is stronger this week ,Plainer stock would be up at least €50/60 from the rock bottom in the last month


  • #2561
    sonnybill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭sonnybill


    cute geoge wrote: »
    nice '17 whitehead heifers 360kg made €500 on the button down in kerry last week but i would say trade is stronger this week ,Plainer stock would be up at least €50/60 from the rock bottom in the last month

    Would lads think that the bps main payment might inject a bit of life into the trade ?


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  • #2562
    Willfarman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    I’m waiting for a lethal injection to the trade before I buy back. Am after taking a hell of a beating this year.


  • #2563
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Willfarman wrote: »
    I’m waiting for a lethal injection to the trade before I buy back. Am after taking a hell of a beating this year.

    The way lads are buying stores at the minute you'd swear beef was going to be over €4 this time next year.


  • #2564
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Willfarman wrote: »
    I’m waiting for a lethal injection to the trade before I buy back. Am after taking a hell of a beating this year.

    The way lads are buying stores at the minute you'd swear beef was going to be over €4 this time next year.
    It's called the sfp syndrome!
    There is no cure for it seems.


  • #2565
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,621 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    The way lads are buying stores at the minute you'd swear beef was going to be over €4 this time next year.
    I'd say lads were holding off buying cattle until they had a better idea of their silage stocks.



    A load of silage made this last 3 weeks will ease a lot of minds about having enough feed for stock till spring so they will be happier buying animals with feed secure.


  • #2566
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,398 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    I had A few bull weanlings in ennis today.

    2 red limo 1 off a first calver (14/1/18) and off an old cow (6/3/18) avg 307kg- €735

    1 black limo off a butty blue- (6/4/18) 310kg - €640

    1 butty black limo off a black limo cow (7/4/18) 260kg- €590


  • #2567
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    I had A few bull weanlings in ennis today.

    2 red limo 1 off a first calver (14/1/18) and off an old cow (6/3/18) avg 307kg- €735

    1 black limo off a butty blue- (6/4/18) 310kg - €640

    1 butty black limo off a black limo cow (7/4/18) 260kg- €590

    Would you consider an easy calving AI Charolais (LZF) on a few?


  • #2568
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,398 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Would you consider an easy calving AI Charolais (LZF) on a few?

    I would consider it. Problem is when I’m not around.

    My plan is to replacing cows who have not reared calves to a good weight. Since I took over, I’ve been logging weights and prices.

    Thanks for the input.


  • #2569
    TITANIUM.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭TITANIUM.


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    I had A few bull weanlings in ennis today.

    2 red limo 1 off a first calver (14/1/18) and off an old cow (6/3/18) avg 307kg- €735

    1 black limo off a butty blue- (6/4/18) 310kg - €640

    1 butty black limo off a black limo cow (7/4/18) 260kg- €590

    Did you sell um all? That's not great going, were you disappointed?


  • #2570
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    I would consider it. Problem is when I’m not around.

    My plan is to replacing cows who have not reared calves to a good weight. Since I took over, I’ve been logging weights and prices.

    Thanks for the input.
    That’s a good help


  • #2571
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,398 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Did you sell um all? That's not great going, were you disappointed?

    Yeah sold- Im at work and the lad that brings them sells them. I don’t think some are good enough but they got no nuts or crunch and the cows are small.

    I am and am not disappointed. Some of the prices are an improvement on the last few years.


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  • #2572
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,398 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    That’s a good help

    The big problem is it’s stil my mother’s farm and she just wants cattle gone. My older brother then dictates- he wants the underperforming cows gone and buy the cheapest heifers in the mart as replacements.


  • #2573
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,721 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    You could at least add another €50 to each by creep feeding. Had one bull here that wouldn't come for meal and he was back €100 from his comrades.


  • #2574
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    The big problem is it’s stil my mother’s farm and she just wants cattle gone. My older brother then dictates- he wants the underperforming cows gone and buy the cheapest heifers in the mart as replacements.

    Correlation could imply causation in this case perhaps! Happy medium is what you want.


  • #2575
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    The big problem is it’s stil my mother’s farm and she just wants cattle gone. My older brother then dictates- he wants the underperforming cows gone and buy the cheapest heifers in the mart as replacements.

    The person making the decisions should be hands on.
    Cheap heifers generally don’t produce top quality calves


  • #2576
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,398 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    The person making the decisions should be hands on.
    Cheap heifers generally don’t produce top quality calves

    I’ve 8 heifers from this year and 2 from last year that I will off load in spring and just buy without him knowing. Just one or two to start out.


  • #2577
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,407 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    I’ve 8 heifers from this year and 2 from last year that I will off load in spring and just buy without him knowing. Just one or two to start out.

    Easier to ask forgiveness than permission


  • #2578
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,398 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    Easier to ask forgiveness than permission

    The cow that had the calf for €640, her calf was €625 last year and her heifer 2 years ago was €590

    So I didn’t put her in calf this year and she is for the road.

    A friend said to look at a charolais cow with the limo bull.

    Our land is very bad and a shorthorn cow would suit it better.


  • #2579
    grassroot1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭grassroot1


    Prices up a good bit in Carnew on last week's trade.
    Still back on last year but up on last week


  • #2580
    Albert Johnson
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    I had A few bull weanlings in ennis today.

    2 red limo 1 off a first calver (14/1/18) and off an old cow (6/3/18) avg 307kg- €735

    1 black limo off a butty blue- (6/4/18) 310kg - €640

    1 butty black limo off a black limo cow (7/4/18) 260kg- €590

    My immediate advice would be to phase out the cows producing darker coloured calves. Limousine sired black or grey weanlings are always harder sold in my opinion. A roan shorthorn cow to the limousine bull would be my idea of an ideal cow type for your set up.
    Regarding the charolais cow I struggle to see what this cross would offer financially. A better quality calf would almost certainly be produced but at what cost? You could end up with tanks of cows that spend 8 months of the year in the shed, harder calving's and the associated workload.
    As regards creep feeding the calibre of weanlings you currently have I would be sceptical of the benefits. I believe you would end up with a slightly heavier average quality calf and another hole for time and money.
    To the best of my limited knowledge your a man with sizeable off farm commitments and poorer ground. Therefore it's a balancing act between farming efficiently and having time for family and the day job. I would be slow to make major changes at the present time, perhaps farm with a minimum investment and return for a few years and re-evaluate the situation as other circumstances allow.


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  • #2581
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,398 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Albert Johnson wrote: »
    My immediate advice would be to phase out the cows producing darker coloured calves. Limousine sired black or grey weanlings are always harder sold in my opinion. A roan shorthorn cow to the limousine bull would be my idea of an ideal cow type for your set up.
    Regarding the charolais cow I struggle to see what this cross would offer financially. A better quality calf would almost certainly be produced but at what cost? You could end up with tanks of cows that spend 8 months of the year in the shed, harder calving's and the associated workload.
    As regards creep feeding the calibre of weanlings you currently have I would be sceptical of the benefits. I believe you would end up with a slightly heavier average quality calf and another hole for time and money.
    To the best of my limited knowledge your a man with sizeable off farm commitments and poorer ground. Therefore it's a balancing act between farming efficiently and having time for family and the day job. I would be slow to make major changes at the present time, perhaps farm with a minimum investment and return for a few years and re-evaluate the situation as other circumstances allow.

    Great advice and echoing a lot of what I was thinking. Thank you.


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