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SIRO - ESB/Vodafone Fibre To The Home

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    banie01 wrote: »
    I use an Asus AC router myself and recently got a fritzbox from Digiweb.
    TBH, I can't see what everyone raves about.
    Yes it's a decent modem that offers plenty of config options out of the box, but WiFi isn't on par with what I'm currently using and the Asus interface and network management is much more polished.
    I'm thinking that as usually ISP supplied routers are POS that a half decent router supplied as standard seems great to many?
    Mine is being bridged and leave my network management to my Asus.

    You don't need to bridge the fritz box with Siro
    Your ONT is the modem you just need to setup ASUS Router using PPPoe connection using the Digiweb username and password
    You need VLAN ID to 10
    To set VLAN ID to 10 in Asus Router go to LAN section : IPTV
    Lan Port : ISP Profile : Manual setting
    Internet VID 10 - Prio 0
    Apply and reboot

    ELECTRIC BROADBAND SETTINGS:
    • Connection type = PPPoE
    • Username = digiweb@siro.digiweb.ie
    • Password = digiweb
    • VLAN ID = 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    paulboland wrote: »
    You don't need to bridge the fritz box with Siro
    Your ONT is the modem you just need to setup ASUS Router using PPPoe connection using the Digiweb username and password
    You need VLAN ID to 10
    To set VLAN ID to 10 in Asus Router go to LAN section : IPTV
    Lan Port : ISP Profile : Manual setting
    Internet VID 10 - Prio 0
    Apply and reboot

    ELECTRIC BROADBAND SETTINGS:
    • Connection type = PPPoE
    • Username = digiweb@siro.digiweb.ie
    • Password = digiweb
    • VLAN ID = 10

    Don't have Siro yet :(
    So using it on an FTTC at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    ED E wrote: »
    More a nerds router than good for the masses.

    The only thing it has that I'd miss on an alternative router is the telephony options.
    Other than that my Asus is to my mind at least a better router and particularly wrt wireless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    M.J.M.C wrote: »
    Any idea what the normal price was?

    Vodafone were charging €90 per month. Expect prices to be in the €80 - €90 range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    Prices rises are possible as they happen with most ISP providers every year
    But I don't think the prices will go back to €90 IMO after 12 or 18 months

    The more customers connected to siro I expect we will see prices deals been offered by various ISP
    I hope I'm not wrong but if that happens I will just change provider when my contract ends and choose another deal been offered by other ISP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭M.J.M.C


    paulboland wrote: »
    Prices rises are possible as they happen with most ISP providers every year
    But I don't think the prices will go back to €90 IMO after 12 or 18 months

    The more customers connected to siro I expect we will see prices deals been offered by various ISP
    I hope I'm not wrong but if that happens I will just change provider when my contract ends and choose another deal been offered by other ISP

    Exactly,90 for 1Gbps is a bit steep I’d sooner just leave it at 150Mbps
    I was in virgins 240 package and that was more than plenty. Only moving to Siro because virgin upped their price again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    paulboland wrote: »
    Prices rises are possible as they happen with most ISP providers every year
    But I don't think the prices will go back to €90 IMO after 12 or 18 months

    The more customers connected to siro I expect we will see prices deals been offered by various ISP
    I hope I'm not wrong but if that happens I will just change provider when my contract ends and choose another deal been offered by other ISP

    This would not be a traditional price rise though. You are getting a heavily discounted promotional price. It is more akin to the eir FTTH bundle offers for new customers. A huge leap after the period ends.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭EdgeCase


    I agree, at most they should be allowed to call it "fibre to cabinet". It's absolutely

    Virgin's also running ads about "Ireland's fastest broadband". It's not, as any of the FTTH products beat them hands down with Gigabit connectivity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 928 ✭✭✭Shelli2


    Sick of the VM price hikes and inconsistent service. One issue we have is that the modem they provide is in our sitting room and tgat gives us zero coverage upstairs. They refused to put it anywhere else when installing.

    Siro is currently available for my house.
    How do I decide between Vodafone and Digiweb? What package? And what should I look for to solve my coverage issue?

    I really only use Wi-Fi for Netflix in living room and Wi-Fi on my phone (which I have to turn off upstairs due to poor signal). But my son is an avid gamer and is constantly complaining about the speed and stability of our current internet.

    And advice greatly appreciated, I'm lost with the technical side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    paulboland wrote: »
    Prices rises are possible as they happen with most ISP providers every year
    But I don't think the prices will go back to €90 IMO after 12 or 18 months

    Your regular price increases are done by the retail provider.

    The current SIRO promotion was instigated by SIRO by heavily slashing the wholesale price for the Gbit package. It also came with requirements.

    Also .. not all providers were charging 90 EUR for Gbit/s. Even on OpenEIR, you can find cheaper than that.

    But the current pricing is not sustainable to the providers, once the promotion ends and the wholesale pricing goes up again.

    /M


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  • Registered Users Posts: 440 ✭✭9726_9726


    EdgeCase wrote: »
    I agree, at most they should be allowed to call it "fibre to cabinet". It's absolutely

    Virgin's also running ads about "Ireland's fastest broadband". It's not, as any of the FTTH products beat them hands down with Gigabit connectivity.

    Correct, those ads are very much out of date. I suppose one complaint to ASA would do it, but who can be arsed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    9726_9726 wrote: »
    Correct, those ads are very much out of date. I suppose one complaint to ASA would do it, but who can be arsed.

    No. It doesn't. I've (and others) have approached the ASAI in regards to Eir calling VDSL eFibre and other providers advertising their products are fibre speed etc.

    They don't give a toss. They've got smaller fish to fry .. it's easier.

    /M


  • Registered Users Posts: 440 ✭✭9726_9726


    ED E wrote: »
    Marlow on here has a hard on for them but they trade Wifi perf for configurability. More a nerds router than good for the masses.

    Interesting - the Fritz is usually held on a pedestal and I'm told it's a fine, fine (if odd-looking) piece of kit. First one I encountered was in the penthouse apartment of the lady (von .de) who was in Ireland to get LIDL up and running, at the time. I thought the name of the thing was hilarious, but they've become very well respected.

    I always thought that internal patch antennae in a consumer router can't be as good as omni/whips externally.

    Currently using TP-Link* Archer C60 at home and it's got unreal 2.4 and even 5GHz coverage throughout the gaff. Bonus - you could play "rings" with the antennae.


    * yes, I know, I work in the industry but I'm not a "kit" guy at home. Have/had enough of it in work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    ED E wrote: »
    Marlow on here has a hard on for them but they trade Wifi perf for configurability. More a nerds router than good for the masses.

    Haha .. I like them alright. I've had every single model since the very first ones. Did you know, that the first Fritz!Box was a custom order for AOL ... (either them or Compuserve). Oddball manufacturer for the yanks.

    Marx Computers in North Dublin used the only place that imported and sold them in Ireland. It's only in the last 2 years, that there now is a distributor for them here.

    In Germany, they have 70% market share, I believe, on the routers, that are used. Only telco, that doesn't use them is German Telekom.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,363 ✭✭✭naughto


    Shelli2 wrote: »
    Sick of the VM price hikes and inconsistent service. One issue we have is that the modem they provide is in our sitting room and tgat gives us zero coverage upstairs. They refused to put it anywhere else when installing.

    Siro is currently available for my house.
    How do I decide between Vodafone and Digiweb? What package? And what should I look for to solve my coverage issue?

    I really only use Wi-Fi for Netflix in living room and Wi-Fi on my phone (which I have to turn off upstairs due to poor signal). But my son is an avid gamer and is constantly complaining about the speed and stability of our current internet.

    And advice greatly appreciated, I'm lost with the technical side.

    Home plugs for better WiFi and wired connection for Xbox/ps4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    naughto wrote: »
    Home plugs for better WiFi and wired connection for Xbox/ps4

    Homeplugs are evil und unreliable. Just run a network cable and use a mesh capable router each end. The cable actually costs a lot less. Homeplugs are for lazy people.

    /M


  • Registered Users Posts: 440 ✭✭9726_9726


    Marlow wrote: »
    Homeplugs are evil und unreliable. Just run a network cable and use a mesh capable router each end. The cable actually costs a lot less. Homeplugs are for lazy people.

    /M

    From a regional provider point of view (cares), homeplugs are difficult, because they are hit and miss, dependent on wiring (environment) that they can't control, so customers will leave bad reviews about the service to the house, when there are internal problems.

    Biggest operators - they just don't care at all about anything, so they will just scream "demarc".

    But I have used Homeplugs myself in rented places over the years with success. As longs as you know that it is a shortcut which may bite you. And of course, if it did, I could ping the router and know it's the LAN.

    And you are right - can't beat a bit of wire. No software, no variables, just physics.

    If it moves, wireless. If it doesn't, wired. Good rule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Eir/VF cheaping out and using them, I understand it.

    Sky doing so, as the premium TV provider, was surprising but apparently thats discontinued now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭EdgeCase


    9726_9726 wrote: »
    Correct, those ads are very much out of date. I suppose one complaint to ASA would do it, but who can be arsed.

    Well, SIRO or OpenEir might as they both offer FTTH.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    EdgeCase wrote: »
    OpenEir might as they **** offer FTTH.

    No, they won't. Because it'll directly hurt Eir retail also setting a precedent. They're as much at fault there.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    SIRO Rollout so far in numbers.

    45396444221_cfa63fbcaa_b.jpg

    That's unique buildings (not premises) and omitting those who don't have an eircode. Guestimate would be another 1k or so without eircodes.

    /M


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 furstenburg


    Anyone able to tell me what speed they are getting through siro and how stable it is? Also is the stock router with VF ok or does it need upgrading once you have it all set up?

    I live in the limerick area and its just been installed in our estate. Thinking of changing from VM and posts seemed to suggest it wasn't great. However, they are from a couple of years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Moanin


    Shelli2 wrote: »
    Sick of the VM price hikes and inconsistent service. One issue we have is that the modem they provide is in our sitting room and tgat gives us zero coverage upstairs. They refused to put it anywhere else when installing.

    Siro is currently available for my house.
    How do I decide between Vodafone and Digiweb? What package? And what should I look for to solve my coverage issue?

    I really only use Wi-Fi for Netflix in living room and Wi-Fi on my phone (which I have to turn off upstairs due to poor signal). But my son is an avid gamer and is constantly complaining about the speed and stability of our current internet.

    And advice greatly appreciated, I'm lost with the technical side.

    I'm Interested in this also as am undecided between both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭lucast2007us


    Moanin wrote:
    I'm Interested in this also as am undecided between both.


    Me too but I'm leaning towards digiweb because of their superior customer service and support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭kao123


    Anyone able to tell me what speed they are getting through siro and how stable it is? Also is the stock router with VF ok or does it need upgrading once you have it all set up?

    I live in the limerick area and its just been installed in our estate. Thinking of changing from VM and posts seemed to suggest it wasn't great. However, they are from a couple of years ago.

    I'm getting on average about 940 - 950 Mbs, despite the few installation hiccups I have to say so far so good.
    The Vodafone Gigiabox is better than I expected as well, wireless over 5Ghz is giving me around 250mbs, I am transferring files wirelessly at around 40 - 50 mbs - from 1Gb to 10Gb in size.
    Wireless coverage again is better than I expected, I've since switched off my sonicwall as the VF Gigiabox gives better coverage indoors.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6 furstenburg


    kao123 wrote: »
    I'm getting on average about 940 - 950 Mbs, despite the few installation hiccups I have to say so far so good.
    The Vodafone Gigiabox is better than I expected as well, wireless over 5Ghz is giving me around 250mbs, I am transferring files wirelessly at around 40 - 50 mbs - from 1Gb to 10Gb in size.
    Wireless coverage again is better than I expected, I've since switched off my sonicwall as the VF Gigiabox gives better coverage indoors.

    Installation hiccups?
    Do you know does the box have to be installed on the inside of where the ESB meter is? or can it come in anywhere on the exterior of your house? Conflicting info online


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Installation hiccups?
    Do you know does the box have to be installed on the inside of where the ESB meter is? or can it come in anywhere on the exterior of your house? Conflicting info online

    There are 2 boxes.

    - One box is a joiner, that is intended for servicing. It's mounted outside on the wall, where the cable goes inside the house.
    - The other box is the ODP, that also acts as cradle for the ONT and that is fitted inside the house where the router is.

    Nothing gets fit in the ESB Meter box. The cabling goes through the ESB meter, if the ESB ducting is used. That's about it. If you read back on this thread, you'll find plenty of pictures.

    And as for hiccups, there is no such things. As with every new cable, that's brought into a premise, there can be obstacles. (Blocked duct, etc.) SIRO are fairly good at tackling them one by one. But yes, if the perception is, that you get the installation the day you first scheduled it, then you might get disappointed.

    /M


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 furstenburg


    Marlow wrote: »
    There are 2 boxes.

    - One box is a joiner, that is intended for servicing. It's mounted outside on the wall, where the cable goes inside the house.
    - The other box is the ODP, that also acts as cradle for the ONT and that is fitted inside the house where the router is.

    Nothing gets fit in the ESB Meter box. The cabling goes through the ESB meter, if the ESB ducting is used. That's about it. If you read back on this thread, you'll find plenty of pictures.

    And as for hiccups, there is no such things. As with every new cable, that's brought into a premise, there can be obstacles. (Blocked duct, etc.) SIRO are fairly good at tackling them one by one. But yes, if the perception is, that you get the installation the day you first scheduled it, then you might get disappointed.

    /M

    Thanks Marlow. I had seen elsewhere that the initial box went on the inside of your house, where the meter is on the outside, and required a powerpoint. There isnt one at this location in our house and so I want to ask them to run the cable around the front of our house (along the outside wall) and in the living room wall where there's plug sockets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    kao123 wrote: »
    I'm getting on average about 940 - 950 Mbs, despite the few installation hiccups I have to say so far so good.
    The Vodafone Gigiabox is better than I expected as well, wireless over 5Ghz is giving me around 250mbs, I am transferring files wirelessly at around 40 - 50 mbs - from 1Gb to 10Gb in size.
    Wireless coverage again is better than I expected, I've since switched off my sonicwall as the VF Gigiabox gives better coverage indoors.

    5Ghz N or AC you getting 250 Mbps
    If that is AC then that's not good wireless performance
    What device you using with 5Ghz

    Good 5Ghz AC wireless on 1000 Mbps broadband would would be around 400 Mbps to 600 Mbps

    I get at the moment the full 360Mbps wireless with my Asus AC wireless router on my Samsung S8 using 5Ghz AC connection with Virgin 360 broadband and wired 360 Mbps to 370 Mbps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭paulboland


    paulboland wrote: »
    5Ghz N or AC you getting 250 Mbps
    If that is AC then that's not good wireless performance
    What device you using with 5Ghz

    Good 5Ghz AC wireless on 1000 Mbps broadband would be around 400 Mbps to 600 Mbps

    I get at the moment the full 360Mbps wireless with my Asus AC wireless router on my Samsung S8 using 5Ghz AC connection with Virgin 360 broandband and wired 360 Mbps to 370 Mbps
    Here is a screenshot from my Samsung S8
    5Ghz AC


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭kao123


    Installation hiccups?
    Do you know does the box have to be installed on the inside of where the ESB meter is? or can it come in anywhere on the exterior of your house? Conflicting info online

    The hiccups were with the physical setup, getting the fibre to my house, that took a few visits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭talla


    So currently on Siro 300 with Vodafone, was installed in Feb 2017 so out of contract with Vodafone.
    Called their sales line but sales agent says that I would have to pay the full €90 per month if I wanted to move to gigabit service.
    So looks like I'll have to switch to digiweb if I want the gigabit service (only a choice of Digiweb and Vodafone in my area).
    Has anyone any experience of switching SIRO resellers?
    Is there much downtime involved?
    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    talla wrote: »
    Has anyone any experience of switching SIRO resellers?
    Is there much downtime involved?
    Cheers

    None. It's instant. Here's the fun part: if you're coming from Vodafone, you can stick another providers router with their credentials on your SIRO connection, while you're still with Vodafone.

    Vodafone ignore the credentials, authenticate on CSID (circuit reference) and you'll be online anyhow.

    So when Vodafone drops and the new provider comes online, it'll just drop the PPPoE session and re-connect. Job done.

    You will need the SIRO UAN from your Vodafone bill. It's at the top of page 2 and 3, I think, and starts with SIVF*******

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Moanin


    Me too but I'm leaning towards digiweb because of their superior customer service and support.

    I signed up with Digiweb and went for the pack which includes phone calls (Broadband Talk & Calls unlimited). The Introductory offer for the 1st 12 months is €20 per month for 1st 2 months then €65 for the next 10. They advised that it will increase to €95 per month after 12 months but they would offer discounts to try to 'keep' existing customers.

    lead time for installation is 4 weeks ish.


  • Company Representative Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Airwire: MartinL


    We've updated the database on our availability checker today.

    Earlier this month over 350 premises in Clarecastle were passed another update also contains over 150 additional premises in Limerick.

    We've additionally made improvements to the checker.

    It can be found here: https://www.airwire.ie/avail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,077 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    We've updated the database on our availability checker today.

    Earlier this month over 350 premises in Clarecastle were passed another update also contains over 150 additional premises in Limerick.

    We've additionally made improvements to the checker.

    It can be found here: https://www.airwire.ie/avail

    Thanks Mike.

    I'm waiting on my area to be cabled but when it is, I will be in touch.
    Trying to ascertain timescales is a nightmare!
    Work was undertaken that enabled a few houses at the entrance to my estate but nothing further undertaken as yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Marlow wrote: »
    That's unique buildings (not premises) and omitting those who don't have an eircode.
    /M

    Can you please explain the difference? Is it something like 'a block of apartments' vs 'individual apartments'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Apogee wrote: »
    Can you please explain the difference? Is it something like 'a block of apartments' vs 'individual apartments'?

    Pretty much. In some cases an Eircode can span over a bunch of individual premises all sharing the same eircode.

    It mostly happens in business parks etc. But in the case of that siro rollout it's a difference of nearly 5000 lines. A little over 180k eircodes covering a little over 185k premises.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,418 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Anyone know what the timeframe is from the guys messing with the boxes in your estate to SIRO going live?

    They were here about a month ago but its still not live for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Anyone know what the timeframe is from the guys messing with the boxes in your estate to SIRO going live?

    They were here about a month ago but its still not live for me.

    Sync with the providers is once a month, the odd sync in between. 1-3 months is the best guestimate, depending on if it's a new area or a build-out of an existing area.

    If it's a new area, it could be longer.

    /M


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Today, after getting extra cable installed last week and them telling me that we could have the modem installed under stairs in hall were a double power socket is, the engineer came around to install the hardware.
    Well, the first thing he said was that he couldn't install it there and the only option was to drill through lounge wall and install it, using a long extension cable. This is because it was more than a metre inside and due to carcinogenic properties of the cable, it was not allowed to be more than a metre. (Later discovered that if a fire occurred the casing on wire would give off carcinogenic fumes. What wouldn't.)

    It was done very tidily and on connection was getting around 600 when plugged into modem. The modem is the newer version which came out a month ago, he said previous version was not up to the job. After he had gone we started getting speeds of 60mb/s and also discovered that the phone, now plugged into the modem wouldn't ring with incoming calls. (This now resolved, hadn't ported old number over)

    Contacted Vodafone chat who informed me that the line would be unstable until order complete on 25th which should then result in normal operation.
    Even via the extension cable we should still get 600-700mb/s.

    So I will be contacting them again Thursday if no improvement.

    So at the mo we get around 50-60mb/s on powerline adapters and wifi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    kleefarr wrote: »
    After he had gone we started getting speeds of 60mb/s and also discovered that the phone, now plugged into the modem wouldn't ring with incoming calls.

    Contacted Vodafone chat who informed me that the line would be unstable until order complete on 25th which should then result in normal operation.
    Even via the extension cable we should still get 600-700mb/s.

    That's a lot of nonsense. If you don't get the speed over wifi, then that's a problem with the router, your device or interference. It is, at the end of the day, your responsibility.

    If the cable gives you the correct speeds .. depending on what your computer can handle and what speedtest servers you are testing to, then there is nothing wrong with your line.

    It's up to you to check, that you set up a wifi channel, that works, that you don't test using 2.4 GHz (because you will not see the speeds there) etc. etc. etc.

    But them telling you it's going to be unstable until the 25th is the biggest hoax, I've ever heard. Vodafone in a nutshell.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,744 ✭✭✭kleefarr


    Marlow wrote: »
    That's a lot of nonsense. If you don't get the speed over wifi, then that's a problem with the router, your device or interference. It is, at the end of the day, your responsibility.

    If the cable gives you the correct speeds .. depending on what your computer can handle and what speedtest servers you are testing to, then there is nothing wrong with your line.

    It's up to you to check, that you set up a wifi channel, that works, that you don't test using 2.4 GHz (because you will not see the speeds there) etc. etc. etc.

    But them telling you it's going to be unstable until the 25th is the biggest hoax, I've ever heard. Vodafone in a nutshell.

    /M

    Speedtests done on ookla to Carlow Blacknight as suggested by installer as it would give a truer reading. Two weeks to fiddle with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭BArra


    I got talking to two guys from TLI group near my house earlier today, they said they are surveying for SIRO.

    Not getting my hopes up just yet but if they are doing a viability study on the area its positive something might happen..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    BArra wrote: »
    I got talking to two guys from TLI group near my house earlier today, they said they are surveying for SIRO.

    Not getting my hopes up just yet but if they are doing a viability study on the area its positive something might happen..

    Since you're on Nova, it's to be assumed you're in Cork. The SIRO rollout planned for Cork city is massive. The only thing that really could prevent you from getting it are collapsed ducts or direct buried cables. And even then they'll try surface retractable solutions.

    /M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭BArra


    Carrigtwohill was announced by them as a planned area, my house is in the next town over, Glounthaune, which I assume means the electricity cables run from/to

    Im not up to speed with the technicality of how it works, I must research it.

    The TLI guy mentioned being on the main line would be required, which I think we are, we even have a pole with a transformer on our land and his maps showed interest in some houses that are around my own house


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭EdgeCase


    Marlow wrote: »
    Pretty much. In some cases an Eircode can span over a bunch of individual premises all sharing the same eircode.

    It mostly happens in business parks etc. But in the case of that siro rollout it's a difference of nearly 5000 lines. A little over 180k eircodes covering a little over 185k premises.

    /M

    That's actually an Eircode database error or a private development with one address for multiple businesses. Eircode does not normally cover more than one address.

    The issue could be where various companies didn't have individual addresses. Ireland has a huge issue with non individual addresses like "Murphy's Widgets, Ballytown Industrial Estate, Kildare."

    It's possible that some of those addresses weren't captured by An Post as individual so didn't get into the Eircode database.

    The issue is developers not assigning building or unit numbers or all of the people in a particular development not using them.

    Really people should contact their postman/woman and ask them to report the address back. As far as I'm aware they're the people who report new addresses back into the database and that's what passes it over to Eircode.

    There seems to be no way of triggering this yourself which is pretty stupid as you can't easily get errors corrected.

    There's also an issue where if a business park has a group mailbox or something like that - mail is delivered to the gate or security hut, then it doesn't have multiple addresses and ESB should really be able to recognise that there's a complex installation involved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    EdgeCase wrote: »
    or a private development with one address for multiple businesses. Eircode does not normally cover more than one address.

    Yep. Exactly this. And it happens quite a lot. I've even seen it for houses, that subsequently have been converted to apartements.

    /M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭EdgeCase


    That's something Siro should be able to resolve with a tick box.
    Is this Eircode unique to your premises?
    If they select No they could ask for an MPRN from your electricity bill to uniquely identify it.

    There's no much Eircode can do as basically they're not addresses / mail delivery points. It's more like the issues you would get with buildings on a campus.

    Also where you don't yet have an Eircode eg new build, you might already have an MPRN or be able to key in a short description of the location to have it checked out.

    Eircode could also do with having an ability to report errors like that as I know the other extreme happens too where one house has multiple Eircodes due to having had home businesses that were treated as different addresses. Someone along the way captured them as different addresses.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    EdgeCase wrote: »
    That's something Siro should be able to resolve with a tick box.

    There is absolutely no problem solving this with SIRO. It's a non-issue.

    SIRO operates on the basis of premise-ids. And because of that, it's possible to order SIRO even when multiple premises share the same eircode or a premise doesn't have an eircode at all.

    It depends on how good your provider understands the data that SIRO provides them with.

    So, if you believe that you have been passed, but can't look up your premises because your eircode is too new or not assigned yet, you can still order.

    It's OpenEIR, that refuses to enable a premise for FTTH without eircode, not SIRO.

    /M


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