Huddersfield grooming case

That’s one bunch of ugly, scummy bastards.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Here's another pair of horrors but not nearly the coverage (white)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/18/fred-and-rosemary-west-of-barry-sentenced-to-total-of-36-years

What do you mean “not nearly the coverage”? There was a media ban on the Huddersfield case therefore there was NO coverage!

That is fcuking horrible.

Don't know how he got only 18 years as a minimum for that many crimes. I'd imagine it's one of those things where the sentance is longer but that's the soonest he can get parole. And hopefully he serves longer.

It can now be reported that the ringleader of the group, 35-year-old Amere Singh Dhaliwal, was jailed for life to serve a minimum of 18 years after being found guilty of 54 offences, including countless rapes of children.

The court heard the married father-of-two committed countless rapes, incited child prostitution, trafficked girls across the region and filmed their abuse on his mobile phone.

Can you imagine if you found out your spouse/father was one of those guys.

Ray Donovan wrote: »

What do you mean “not nearly the coverage”? There was a media ban on the Huddersfield case therefore there was NO coverage!

True. And the cases are different but there's similarities too. In that second case there's a possibility that the police were involved.

autumn2018 wrote: »

we complain in ireland but i feel so sorry for the people over in england
its sadistic
close the common travel area before this cancer infects our children's future

and leo the liar and rte and dennis o brien fm can all go to hell

Eh? Didn't you read the Murphy report. We've had plenty of home grown similarly lovely characters. And have exported plenty of them all over the developing world too.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Trust me on this if it were a 100m dash the Huddersfield case would win in the media race to sensation every time. These people come in all colours and creeds.

Of course it would, and should. the fact that twenty scumbags were convicted in Huddersfield is pretty eye opening. There will always be child abusers unfortunately, usually operating solo, maybe even as a couple like those two.
However when 20 people get done, there is serious issues. These scumbags didn't link up over the Internet, they knew each other. How many in the Pakistani community knew about this n said nothing? Hundreds? It only came to light because some of the girls came forward. Not remotely good enough.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Eh? Didn't you read the Murphy report. We've had plenty of home grown similarly lovely characters. And have exported plenty of them all over the developing world too.

Not similar to homegrown offenders. There's a very distinct character to the offences carried out by 'Asian' men in the UK. 84% of those convicted of Type 2 grooming/sexual abuse of children are 'Asian'.

There is clearly native offenders, but they commit different types of offences: Type 1, motivated by a specific desire to abuse children. Type 2 gangs target their victims based on them being vulnerable. That they are children is coincidental. Its not one and the same.

Its quite telling that none of the convicted express any remorse. This is fairly typical for other Asian gangs. They don't feel any guilt, they believe their victims deserved it. They operated almost openly. Does anyone think that 18 men can keep a secret? That no one in their families or neighbourhoods noticed what they were doing?

Whats even more telling is that a UK minister had to resign over the Windrush issue. Who has resigned over this? Is there even any pressure for anyone to take responsibility?

I think Javid ordered investigation if Asian region around Pakistan is disproportionally represented in these crimes. It probably helps that minister of Pakistani origin is tackling this although it shouldn't matter.

But those who think closing borders will solve the problem are idiots. There is a case investigated in Ireland where there seems to be serious child abuse and grooming for generations and only very limited reporting is allowed at the moment.

Why isn't this prosecuted as a hate crime?

It was clearly religion and race based targeting of the victims.

wonga77 wrote: »

Not many may agree but personally I think these people should be put down.
They are of no benefit whatsoever to society and will now cost the taxpayer millions as they are housed for the next few years. Seriously, what is the point of their existence?
It's incredibly unlikely that any one of them will ever make a meaningful contribution to society.
The whole story is sickening

I've heard people argue that these kind of people can be rehabilitated and they might be right. But do they deserve to be rehabilitated? Should be thrown in a small cell for the rest of their lives and offered euthanasia.