PS4 Megathread 3.0

xtal191 · 06-10-2018 12:30AM

jaxxx wrote: »

Anyone know the best way to go about selling a console? I bought my PS4 Pro 1TB earlier in the year and honestly I haven't even touched it in months. The first time in my life I've regretted buying a games console. I've never sold anything online before so have no idea where to begin. Done Deal maybe, I'm not even sure how that works! What would be a reasonable selling price? I can't remember what I paid for it, I think it was €400 as that's what it seems to be retailing for at Gamestop, Smyths etc. So would selling it at €300 be an unreasonable ask do you think? It's just a standard black 1TB Pro, didn't come as part of a bundle or anything like that.

Just looked at CEX website and they buy it for around €250.

You should be able to get 300 for it on adverts, just make sure to put it up for 350 if you do

J. Marston · 06-10-2018 12:49AM

xtal191 wrote: »

You should be able to get 300 for it on adverts, just make sure to put it up for 350 if you do

"Would you be interested in trading it for a Sega Master System, Matt Hoffman's Pro BMX for the PS1 and €10?"

Nyum Nyum · 06-10-2018 07:24AM

J. Marston wrote: »

"Would you be interested in trading it for a Sega Master System, Matt Hoffman's Pro BMX for the PS1 and €10?"

"I'll give you €120 if you come to Dublin"

Trigger Happy · 06-10-2018 08:59AM

I am looking to buy a ps4 and would have gone for a second hand one but the prices for second hand ones seem close enough to full retail. So will go with retail for full warranty etc.

The smyths 500g version with fifa 18 and extra controller for 319 looks hard to beat...but might hold off for an equivalent red dead bundle if there will be one.

We would only be occasional users.
Any one know of any deals to keep an eye out for?

ImANoob08 · 06-10-2018 09:03AM

300 for that dudes pro assuming it's in good nick would be about the best you could hope for is say.

Could pick up fifa second had and wouldn't cost ya much more for the console and fifa and you'll have a 1tb pro console ...

ERG89 · 06-10-2018 09:11AM

ImANoob08 wrote:

300 for that dudes pro assuming it's in good nick would be about the best you could hope for is say.

500GB is a big issue too when Red Dead 2 is apparently over 100GB's & most games are over 50 GB's it means a lot of management of memory and redownloading patches. With 1TB you've a lot more leeway. Pro's games just perform better too, even if it is negligible in some cases overall it's fact.

ImANoob08 · 06-10-2018 09:20AM

ERG89 wrote: »

ImANoob08 wrote:

300 for that dudes pro assuming it's in good nick would be about the best you could hope for is say.

500GB is a big issue too when Red Dead 2 is apparently over 100GB's & most games are over 50 GB's it means a lot of management of memory and redownloading patches. With 1TB you've a lot more leeway. Pro's games just perform better too, even if it is negligible in some cases overall it's fact.

Good point! Had seen red dead was gonna be 100gigs and couldn't believe it!

dulpit · 06-10-2018 11:02AM

jaxxx wrote: »

Anyone know the best way to go about selling a console? I bought my PS4 Pro 1TB earlier in the year and honestly I haven't even touched it in months. The first time in my life I've regretted buying a games console. I've never sold anything online before so have no idea where to begin. Done Deal maybe, I'm not even sure how that works! What would be a reasonable selling price? I can't remember what I paid for it, I think it was €400 as that's what it seems to be retailing for at Gamestop, Smyths etc. So would selling it at €300 be an unreasonable ask do you think? It's just a standard black 1TB Pro, didn't come as part of a bundle or anything like that.

Just looked at CEX website and they buy it for around €250.

I tend to go with what CEX's price is for selling and buying and aim for a midway point. That way you make more than simply trading into CEX and the buyer gets it cheaper too.

Currently CEX have it for €254 to buy, €410 to sell, so halfway point would be €330 or so. €300 sounds reasonable.

Christy Browne · 06-10-2018 01:26PM

ImANoob08 wrote: »

Good point! Had seen red dead was gonna be 100gigs and couldn't believe it!

It’s not actually 100 gigs, every game just requires twice the amount of space it will take up to be installed.

Once it’s installed it will only take up 50 or so.

ImANoob08 · 06-10-2018 02:06PM

Are you sure?

I know about the game taking up double space to install but was told by one of the lads I play a lot with that it was gonna be a 100gig game after install.

He could of course been mistaken but he tends to be generally reliable about stuff like this

ItsHoggie · 06-10-2018 02:59PM

ImANoob08 wrote: »

Are you sure?

I know about the game taking up double space to install but was told by one of the lads I play a lot with that it was gonna be a 100gig game after install.

He could of course been mistaken but he tends to be generally reliable about stuff like this

It says 100gb's on the box afaik. Think it only needs double the space when installing the game, which would mean you'd need 200gb's free to install it

Christy Browne · 06-10-2018 03:04PM

ImANoob08 wrote: »

Are you sure?

I know about the game taking up double space to install but was told by one of the lads I play a lot with that it was gonna be a 100gig game after install.

He could of course been mistaken but he tends to be generally reliable about stuff like this

I don’t think anyone really knows for sure until the pre-loads are up but I remember someone posted that it was 100GB on Reddit and it got debunked by a load of people saying what I just said.

Revoker88 · 06-10-2018 04:44PM

Thing is if it was just 55gb and just needed the 105gb+ to install no one would remark at all as thats totally unremarkable.

Loads of games are that size.

To me the attention its getting only makes sense if the full install size is 105gb.

gimli2112 · 06-10-2018 05:36PM

if it's a 210 GB install I'm going to need to make some room but it looks like it is

ERG89 · 08-10-2018 11:30PM

Anyone notice that when you buy a new game it takes way more time now for it to install and play. First noticed it with Spiderman

ERG89 · 08-10-2018 11:30PM

Anyone notice that when you buy a new game it takes way more time now for it to install and play. First noticed it with Spiderman

ImANoob08 · 09-10-2018 08:27AM

Is it the copying process? I downloaded a patch for destiny in about two minutes but was gonna take about 45 to copy or some bull.

End3d up turning if off and playing the next day. I don't get eno7gh time on the console these days to wait that long for a file to copy

ERG89 · 09-10-2018 08:34AM

ImANoob08 wrote: »

Is it the copying process? I downloaded a patch for destiny in about two minutes but was gonna take about 45 to copy or some bull.

Yeah its when you click on the game and it says (Copying Application). Spiderman I think took 50 minutes

duploelabs · 09-10-2018 08:52AM

J. Marston wrote: »

"Would you be interested in trading it for a Sega Master System, Matt Hoffman's Pro BMX for the PS1 and €10?"

Varik · 09-10-2018 10:59AM

Put the system into rest mode when downloading or installing, it's much faster as it isn't doing anything else at the same time.

Longer install times might be down to greater compression being used, both in downloaded files and on disc. A PS4 disc isn't any bigger than a PS3 one.

TerrorFirmer · 10-10-2018 08:19AM

ImANoob08 wrote: »

Is it the copying process? I downloaded a patch for destiny in about two minutes but was gonna take about 45 to copy or some bull.

End3d up turning if off and playing the next day. I don't get eno7gh time on the console these days to wait that long for a file to copy

This. I don't know what's changed but as a casual PS4 user (only use it once a week or so) game updates now take forever due to this copying crap.

I've had Overwatch/COD updates take 2 minutes to download and then 20-30 minutes to 'copy'...then just another 2 to install.

Painful.

Penn · 10-10-2018 12:23PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

This. I don't know what's changed but as a casual PS4 user (only use it once a week or so) game updates now take forever due to this copying crap.

I've had Overwatch/COD updates take 2 minutes to download and then 20-30 minutes to 'copy'...then just another 2 to install.

Painful.

I think I read the explanation of the Copying thing is that you're downloading a zip file (to reduce the download size) and copying is it extracting/installing. So it's likely splitting the difference between how long the unzipped file would take to download and install, depending on your download speeds.

That said, they do need to find a better way of optimising it to speed things up.

FAILSAFE 00 · 11-10-2018 12:23PM

Interesting read.

I wouldn't be a fan of PSN security but this is a real shocker. Hacked with 2 step verification, frightening.

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/43ebpd/the-long-weird-story-explaining-why-i-bid-dollar700-for-a-stolen-psn-account

Benzino · 11-10-2018 01:00PM

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

Interesting read.

I wouldn't be a fan of PSN security but this is a real shocker. Hacked with 2 step verification, frightening.

https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/43ebpd/the-long-weird-story-explaining-why-i-bid-dollar700-for-a-stolen-psn-account

Ridiculous. I don't know if companies face any serious consequences for hacks, but they should. It's happening too often now and companies are hiding it from the public. Governments need to introduce strict laws that heavily punish companies who suffer data breach, and Sony should be top of the pile to be investigated.

On a side note, what sad individual spends that much of their time trying to steal somebody's PSN account. Pathetic really.

TitianGerm · 11-10-2018 01:05PM

Benzino wrote: »

Ridiculous. I don't know if companies face any serious consequences for hacks, but they should. It's happening too often now and companies are hiding it from the public. Governments need to introduce strict laws that heavily punish companies who suffer data breach, and Sony should be top of the pile to be investigated.

On a side note, what sad individual spends that much of their time trying to steal somebody's PSN account. Pathetic really.

Could happen with any company really. I'd to ring Vodafone last week and the agent who answered prompted me one of my security question answers. It really depends who answers the phone.

Benzino · 11-10-2018 01:10PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Could happen with any company really. I'd to ring Vodafone last week and the agent who answered prompted me one of my security question answers. It really depends who answers the phone.

I know, but that doesn't make it acceptable. Until there are hefty punishments, there will be no incentive to improve it. Your information is more valuable than money, and should be treated as such.

dudeeile · 11-10-2018 01:13PM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Could happen with any company really. I'd to ring Vodafone last week and the agent who answered prompted me one of my security question answers. It really depends who answers the phone.

Yes it could but honestly the worst part of that article is the shocking customer service and the complete lack of assistance to the account owner and failure to comment to the reporter. By the sounds of it this is a common occurrence.

maximoose · 11-10-2018 01:15PM

Benzino wrote: »

On a side note, what sad individual spends that much of their time trying to steal somebody's PSN account. Pathetic really.

Yeah I don't get it, also:

“No one actually pays real money for accounts, so I bet he’s thrilled,” said the hacker who’d tipped me off to the forum in the first place.

So what do they actually do this for?

TitianGerm · 11-10-2018 01:18PM

maximoose wrote: »

Yeah I don't get it, also:

So what do they actually do this for?

Probably trade other stuff? Fortnite skins Xbox credit?

gimli2112 · 11-10-2018 01:28PM

wonder would the new GDPR Regs offer protection. I'm no expert but Sony surely have a duty to protect your personal data under the regulations. Fines go up to 3 or 4% of your global turnover if you fail to do so - that would be Sony's Group turnover not just PlayStation

they'd need to be taking this seriously or we could all be x-boxers by next gen

PS4 Megathread 3.0

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