Nonso & Family - why bother with the legal route

imme · 10-10-2018 09:35PM #1

News filtered through today that nonso and his family get to stay in Ireland.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/teenager-fearing-deportation-granted-leave-to-stay-in-ireland-with-his-family-37406304.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1010/1002273-nonso-muojekes/

There is generous coverage in the media centering on Nonso, not much mention of his mother and brother.

Nonso was 2 when his mother came to Ireland with her children and claimed asylum.
They were denied asylum in 2009.
They were denied asylum on appeal.

Now as a result of a media Nonso and family have been granted Leave To Remain.
They will be allowed to apply for Irish citizenship in the coming years.

If you tough out the asylum process, exhaust appeal routes you can still get there thanks to social media.
Thanks social media, no need to bother with the legal proceeds.

Your Face · 10-10-2018 09:40PM

'Nonso & Family' sounds like a sitcom.

Fr_Dougal · 10-10-2018 09:41PM

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corner of hells · 10-10-2018 09:43PM

imme wrote: »

News filtered through today that nonso and his family get to stay in Ireland.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/teenager-fearing-deportation-granted-leave-to-stay-in-ireland-with-his-family-37406304.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1010/1002273-nonso-muojekes/

There is generous coverage in the media centering on Nonso, not much mention of his mother and brother.

Nonso was 2 when his mother came to Ireland with her children and claimed asylum.
They were denied asylum in 2009.
They were denied asylum on appeal.

Now as a result of a media Nonso and family have been granted Leave To Remain.
They will be allowed to apply for Irish citizenship in the coming years.

If you tough out the asylum process, exhaust appeal routes you can still get there thanks to social media.
Thanks social media, no need to bother with the legal proceeds.

You're just afraid Nonso will up lining out for whatever county Tullamore is in.

mad muffin · 10-10-2018 09:44PM

He’s lived in Ireland 99% of his life. He knows nothing but Ireland. He’s as Irish as any 14 year old born and raised here.

Imagine how terrifying it must be to have the prospect of deportation to a country he has never known. Without any fault of his own.

These circumstances should have been taken into consideration before deportation proceedings were started against the family.

Luckily common scenes has prevailed.

Try_harder · 10-10-2018 09:46PM

corner of hells wrote: »

You're just afraid Nonso will up lining out for whatever county Tullamore is in.

Offaly

Try_harder · 10-10-2018 09:47PM

They tuk r houses!

corner of hells · 10-10-2018 09:48PM

Try_harder wrote: »

Offaly

Give over you with your county Offaly , there's no such place.

Try_harder · 10-10-2018 09:51PM

The whole school
Campaigned for him and his family to stay- they are very intelligent and very much an asset to the community

One eyed Jack · 10-10-2018 09:54PM

imme wrote: »

If you tough out the asylum process, exhaust appeal routes you can still get there thanks to social media.
Thanks social media, no need to bother with the legal proceeds.

Good for them!

They also wouldn’t have been permitted to stay in Ireland had they not gone through legal proceedings btw.

Feisar · 10-10-2018 09:56PM

So for every law we don't like we can start a hearts and minds campaign, good to know.

I drove three hours today to go to Cork and three hours home. If I was caught speeding, ah shur dacent lad earning a crust, sure let him off, trying to get home to the family.

Bollocks, if the system was more efficent he lad wouldn't have had a chance to be 99% Irish.

The mammy sought "asylum" her husbands family weren't nice to her.

Such a load of crap.

removed2 · 10-10-2018 09:59PM

imme wrote: »

News filtered through today that nonso and his family get to stay in Ireland.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/teenager-fearing-deportation-granted-leave-to-stay-in-ireland-with-his-family-37406304.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1010/1002273-nonso-muojekes/

There is generous coverage in the media centering on Nonso, not much mention of his mother and brother.

Nonso was 2 when his mother came to Ireland with her children and claimed asylum.
They were denied asylum in 2009.
They were denied asylum on appeal.

Now as a result of a media Nonso and family have been granted Leave To Remain.
They will be allowed to apply for Irish citizenship in the coming years.

If you tough out the asylum process, exhaust appeal routes you can still get there thanks to social media.
Thanks social media, no need to bother with the legal proceeds.

heard this on the radio
huge credit to Nonso classmates,
that is real politics,
literal schoolkids getting 22 thousand signatures, lobbying their local minister, charlie flanagan, and getting a result

ProfessorPlum · 10-10-2018 10:01PM

Feisar wrote: »

So for every law we don't like we can start a hearts and minds campaign, good to know.

I drove three hours today to go to Cork and three hours home. If I was caught speeding, ah shur dacent lad earning a crust, sure let him off, trying to get home to the family.

Bollocks, if the system was more efficent he lad wouldn't have had a chance to be 99% Irish.

The mammy sought "asylum" her husbands family weren't nice to her.

Such a load of crap.

I think that’s the crux of the issue. If the system was more efficient, there wouldn’t be a problem. The family would have been deported 10 years or more ago.
The major issue now regarding this family (and probably many others) is that it seems very unfair on the kids to deport them to what is an alien country to them.
We need to streamline our asylum process.

Dj Stiggie · 10-10-2018 10:36PM

Streamline the system? They're clearly a model family that are thought of highly in their community. His brother got a great leaving cert and is studying in UL. This young man inspired his classmates to rally around him and put in a lot more effort for anything than most adults do for their community, let alone teenagers.

Put yourself in their shoes for a second. Their mother was widowed and felt her life in Nigeria was so bad that she left everything and everyone she knew to start a new life in Ireland. As a nation we pine so much for everyone who left, but turn our backs on the people coming here for a better life. Anyone with kids would want the best life possible for their children and this is what she did.

And regarding laws being changed at will, etc. Anyone can start a petition and engage with lawmakers and authorities to make a difference. Most of us just can't be bothered. This is the first I've heard of this family, but I'm glad they get to stay in Ireland.

weldoninhio · 10-10-2018 10:37PM

Absolute joke. This country is pathetic.

blackwhite · 10-10-2018 10:38PM

Surely the problem here is a system that lets the application and appeals drag out for so long?

The fact that the lad has been here from 2 till nearly adulthood without his status being finalised is one hell of an indictment on how our immigration processes work. I’d be fairly hardline when it comes to illegals being given leave to remain, but even still I’d have massive sympathy for this family. Justice delayed is justice denied, etc., etc.

Guarantee that all applications and appeals will be dealt with and decided within a max of 2 years, and then the emotive appeals such as these won’t have any ground to stand on. Be as strict as possible with the rules, but cut this BS of leaving people hanging for nearly 2 decades

weldoninhio · 10-10-2018 10:38PM

Dj Stiggie wrote: »

Streamline the system? They're clearly a model family that are thought of highly in their community. His brother got a great leaving cert and is studying in UL. This young man inspired his classmates to rally around him and put in a lot more effort for anything than most adults do for their community, let alone teenagers.

Put yourself in their shoes for a second. Their mother was widowed and felt her life in Nigeria was so bad that she left everything and everyone she knew to start a new life in Ireland. As a nation we pine so much for everyone who left, but turn our backs on the people coming here for a better life. Anyone with kids would want the best life possible for their children and this is what she did.

And regarding laws being changed at will, etc. Anyone can start a petition and engage with lawmakers and authorities to make a difference. Most of us just can't be bothered. This is the first I've heard of this family, but I'm glad they get to stay in Ireland.

How did they get to Ireland without stopping in another safe country?? Any direct transport routes?? Pathetic.

Pawwed Rig · 10-10-2018 10:40PM

Offaly or Nigeria?, Offaly or Nigeria.....

tough call.

Odhinn · 10-10-2018 10:48PM

corner of hells wrote: »

Give over you with your county Offaly , there's no such place.

That's what satan wants you to think.

removed2 · 10-10-2018 11:00PM

ProfessorPlum wrote: »

I think that’s the crux of the issue. If the system was more efficient, there wouldn’t be a problem. The family would have been deported 10 years or more ago.
The major issue now regarding this family (and probably many others) is that it seems very unfair on the kids to deport them to what is an alien country to them.
We need to streamline our asylum process.

alan shatter started the asylum seekers programme
a true irish man:cool:

Odhinn · 10-10-2018 11:07PM

removed2 wrote: »

alan shatter started the asylum seekers programme
a true irish man:cool:

Why the sarcasm?

10-10-2018 11:13PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

How did they get to Ireland without stopping in another safe country?? Any direct transport routes?? Pathetic.

Flights?
I know Irish family that lived in Nigeria for a few years.
They bought flights.
Presumably the same flights can be bought Nigeria to Ireland?

10-10-2018 11:14PM

removed2 wrote: »

alan shatter started the asylum seekers programme
a true irish man:cool:

What does this mean?
You know there were asylum seekers in Ireland before shatter was minister yes?

10-10-2018 11:15PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Absolute joke. This country is pathetic.

Why?
Because a child that has lived here all his life & no doubt identifies as Irish, gets to stay here rather than move him to a foreign land?
I don't see anything pathetic about that.

Try_harder · 10-10-2018 11:17PM

removed2 wrote: »

heard this on the radio
huge credit to Nonso classmates,
that is real politics,
literal schoolkids getting 22 thousand signatures, lobbying their local minister, charlie flanagan, and getting a result

Technically he isn't

removed2 · 10-10-2018 11:41PM

bubblypop wrote: »

What does this mean?
You know there were asylum seekers in Ireland before shatter was minister yes?

why are all you post questions

Ulysses Gaze · 10-10-2018 11:42PM

removed2 wrote: »

alan shatter started the asylum seekers programme
a true irish man:cool:

Nothing like a bit of the Aul subtle inference (not) about Shatter's religion.

Given Shatter was born in Dublin and raised here, I think that makes him Irish.

removed2 · 10-10-2018 11:44PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Nothing like a bit of the Aul subtle inference (not) about Shatter's religion.

Given Shatter was born in Dublin and raised here, I think that makes him Irish.

exactly
all irish should read his book promoting degeneracy

Donald Trump · 10-10-2018 11:49PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Offaly or Nigeria?, Offaly or Nigeria.....

tough call.

Ah look. There's no comparison. The Northern part of it has been overrun by feral gangs of pseudo-human animals. 100% against Western education or values. A refuge for a backwards twisted and perverted ideology and way of living. Trying to drive the place even further back to the stone age than it already was. People trying to live there have nothing. Not even hope. Who in their right mind would not seek any possible chance to escape from such a hellhole and get their family to a safe place.

Nigeria on the other hand is probably grand.

Ulysses Gaze · 10-10-2018 11:55PM

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Offaly or Nigeria?, Offaly or Nigeria.....

tough call.

Biffo is from Offaly....

Nigeria it is so....

ChikiChiki · 10-10-2018 11:58PM

No problem with this. A popular young chap and seems the family have integrated well into the community and common sense has prevailed. He will likely be a valuable contributor to society by all accounts.

In reality, it should never have got this far. Smacks of some officials just doing something to be seen to be doing something.

Now as for all the non skilled rogues coming to leach of our welfare systems and refuse to integrate and stick with their own, well thats a different story.

Nonso & Family - why bother with the legal route

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