Making A Murderer [Netflix - Documentary Series]

Pelvis · 27-09-2018 08:46AM

I loved the first series, and didn't find it long at all.

That said... I don't see how they can drag it out across another 10 episodes. Unless they are going to switch over and tell it from the side of the prosecutors.

peteeeed · 10-10-2018 08:51AM

Trailer for new season

bazermc · 14-10-2018 02:51PM

I’m looking forward to this coming out although don’t expect it to be as good as the first part.

I presume all episodes will be released at the same time so I can binge over the weekend?

gmisk · 20-10-2018 12:43AM

I watched the first episode of season 2...i think they are struggling to pad it out to a series.
It's kind of tasteless, this zellner woman is a bottom feeder imo.
Don't think I will be watching the rest tbh.

seligehgit · 20-10-2018 12:46AM

Great the entire second season is now up on Netflix.

the whole year inn · 20-10-2018 09:59AM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

It is cringe if you base all your beliefs on a one sided documentary.

Sure why does it bother you what other people do ,let them off what ever they want to do.If other peoples actions bother you then id say you must be in a constant state of cringe .

I watched the first episode thought it was decent .Blood splatter is interesting but whole season of this could be long.

Creamy Goodness · 20-10-2018 10:31AM

gmisk wrote: »

I watched the first episode of season 2...i think they are struggling to pad it out to a series.
It's kind of tasteless, this zellner woman is a bottom feeder imo.
Don't think I will be watching the rest tbh.

I’ve watched the entire thing (thanks 14 hour flight).

It’s an interesting watch but no real cliff hangers like part 1. She does find some interesting evidence but whether it will be enough to get a retrial is another thing.

seligehgit · 20-10-2018 12:05PM

Brain finger printing cool.

I know wiki isn't the most solid of sources but it notes it is a controversial,unproven and questionable technique.

retro:electro · 20-10-2018 12:22PM

I think I’ve officially reached blood spatter analysis fatigue

Mam of 4 · 21-10-2018 03:18PM

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

I’ve watched the entire thing (thanks 14 hour flight).

It’s an interesting watch but no real cliff hangers like part 1. She does find some interesting evidence but whether it will be enough to get a retrial is another thing.

I'm on episode five and finding it interesting .
I love this side of documentaries/shows , where they delve into the evidence side , and either prove/disprove how people say things actually happened .

extra gravy · 21-10-2018 03:29PM

Mam of 4 wrote: »

I'm on episode five and finding it interesting .
I love this side of documentaries/shows , where they delve into the evidence side , and either prove/disprove how people say things actually happened .

I'm the same, finding it much more interesting than season one.

TomOnBoard · 21-10-2018 03:34PM

I binged on it yesterday. Very interesting but not to everyone taste I'd say. More cerebral than s01. Kathleen is some woman....

It asks some serious questions about US 'justice'...

Happy4all · 21-10-2018 03:36PM

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I binged on it yesterday. Very interesting but not to everyone taste I'd say. More cerebral than s01 Kathleen is some woman....

Is it basically a rehash of 1 or does it add much new stuff?

TomOnBoard · 21-10-2018 03:38PM

Happy4all wrote: »

Is it basically a rehash of 1 or does it add much new stuff?

It does a much deeper dive into the evidence and also fleshed out alternative theories a bit more but for me it just emphasised my own assessment of the alternatives after S01.. Most is to do with undermining the prosecutions case...

TomOnBoard · 21-10-2018 05:06PM

Mam of 4 wrote: »

I'm on episode five and finding it interesting .
I love this side of documentaries/shows , where they delve into the evidence side , and either prove/disprove how people say things actually happened .

I would say that MAM S2 not so much proves or disproves anything... However, it does posit alternative theories and/or undermine prosecutors' interpretation of the 'evidence' as well as firming up on the messy manipulation by Law Enforcement of the post- crime scenes...

Mam of 4 · 21-10-2018 05:51PM

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I would say that MAM S2 not so much proves or disproves anything... However, it does posit alternative theories and/or undermine prosecutors' interpretation of the 'evidence' as well as firming up on the messy manipulation by Law Enforcement of the post- crime scenes...

I agree with everything you've said Tom , I just phrased what I said badly

TomOnBoard · 21-10-2018 06:24PM

The most troubling thing I found is the faith that ppl at the bottom must place in the Courts for justice and fairness, and soooo much other stuff seems to get in the way, leading to very questionable positioning by Courts on apparently obvious matters.

bazermc · 21-10-2018 06:32PM

retro:electro wrote: »

I think I’ve officially reached blood spatter analysis fatigue

And Berms. Loads of Berm analysis

Mam of 4 · 21-10-2018 06:38PM

bazermc wrote: »

And Berns. Loads of Berm analysis

I had never heard of the word Berm before this

TomOnBoard · 21-10-2018 06:56PM

Mam of 4 wrote: »

I had never heard of the word Berm before this

What about Berm Bracks? or Going to the hairdresser for a Berm?

Oops... must get that feckin hearing aid....:pac:

Mam of 4 · 21-10-2018 07:18PM

TomOnBoard wrote: »

What about Berm Bracks? or Going to the hairdresser for a Berm?

Oops... must get that feckin hearing aid....:pac:

Lol !!

I must casually drop the word Berm into a conversation and see what happens

Am loving Kathleen in this , she's extremely thorough , and confident in her capabilities (and past record with previous cases ) .

seligehgit · 21-10-2018 07:23PM

Really enjoyed it.Kathleen Zellner is some woman.

I know it's largely told from one side of the argument but with apparently new evidence,violation of constitutional rights(brady violation and ineffective assistance of counsel) and the furnishing of a Denny suspect I can't see how Avery does'nt deserve a retrial.

Shocking that Brendan Dassey failed in his en banc seventh circuit court of appeal,albeit a slim 4/3 majority.Judge Hamilton as per the previous appeal was implacable in his opposition to allowing Dassey's appeal.Judge Duffin and the dissenters in the subsequent appeal are all heroes.

His one in a hundred chance of getting a US Supreme Court Appeal in shatters.:(

Judge Angela Sutkiewicz seemed totally unreasonable in her opposition to a new trial.The US state judicial system seems to have closed ranks in this case.

AEDPA and the consequential insistence by the US Supreme Court that federal courts not interfere as much as humanly possible in the court decision making at state level has acted as a millstone in overturning verdicts.

TomOnBoard · 21-10-2018 07:54PM

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Lol !!

I must casually drop the word Berm into a conversation and see what happens

Yeah, I reckon it should be asked of every Presidential candidate:

"What would your Presidency do for the plight of Berms everywhere?"

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Am loving Kathleen in this , she's extremely thorough , and confident in her capabilities (and past record with previous cases ) .

A very able lady. She really makes most of the other lawyers seem to be in the 2nd division... And yet doesn't come across as a PITA or an arrogant know-it-all... I liked the way she held the door open for her law clerks after delivering the submission...

8-10 · 21-10-2018 09:53PM

TomOnBoard wrote: »

The most troubling thing I found is the faith that ppl at the bottom must place in the Courts for justice and fairness, and soooo much other stuff seems to get in the way, leading to very questionable positioning by Courts on apparently obvious matters.

Serial Season 3 touches on the same topic as it happens

Mountainsandh · 21-10-2018 10:06PM

Binge watched both seasons the past few days, WHEN IS SEASON 3 DUE ???!!!

Loved Kathleen too. I thought the two previous lawyers were good, I think they meant really well, but like she said, they just let plenty of things pass them by...

I suppose they just didn't have the money she has at her disposal.

The Nal · 22-10-2018 09:40AM

Bit of a snoozefest this. Fúcker is clearly guilty.

8-10 · 22-10-2018 09:53AM

The Nal wrote: »

Bit of a snoozefest this. Fúcker is clearly guilty.

Who is, Brendan?

murpho999 · 22-10-2018 12:06PM

TomOnBoard wrote: »

What about Berm Bracks? or Going to the hairdresser for a Berm?

Oops... must get that feckin hearing aid....:pac:

They're Barmbracks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barmbrack

retro:electro · 22-10-2018 06:15PM

I’m only really interested in the fight for Brendan. There is literally not a shred of evidence against him only a higgilty piggilty, fill in the blanks, nope wrong answer try again coerced statement.
American justice how are ya.

Mam of 4 · 22-10-2018 08:27PM

retro:electro wrote: »

I’m only really interested in the fight for Brendan. There is literally not a shred of evidence against him only a higgilty piggilty, fill in the blanks, nope wrong answer try again coerced statement.
American justice how are ya.

It's so sad , isn't it ?

There's another programme on Netflix - True Confessions , well worth a watch .

It's so easy for anyone to say oh I'd never confess to something I hadn't done , but until you're in that position , and maybe not in the right frame of mind , it's so easy to be coerced into saying it was you .

Making A Murderer [Netflix - Documentary Series]

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