ANC Payment.

Sacrolyte · 22-09-2018 9:50pm

sonnybill wrote: »

30ha x 0.15lu = 4.5 LU for all 12 months or 9.0 Lu for seven consecutive months

Something I often wondered. Do the livestock units have to be the same livestock for the seven months or can you be choppy changy

shot_ov_a · 22-09-2018 10:19pm

ah ok just worked it out there i wont be over the stocking until the 5th of December i think.. so will i not receive my anc this year then? or will it be after the 5th?

wrangler · 22-09-2018 10:25pm

shot_ov_a wrote: »

ah ok just worked it out there i wont be over the stocking until the 5th of December i think.. so will i not receive my anc this year then? or will it be after the 5th?

You'll get paid when you cross the minimum stocking rate so you should get it after the 5th dec

shot_ov_a · 22-09-2018 10:37pm

wrangler wrote: »

You'll get paid when you cross the minimum stocking rate so you should get it after the 5th dec

ah thats ok cheers

DJ98 · 23-09-2018 7:22am

wrangler wrote: »

You'll get paid when you cross the minimum stocking rate so you should get it after the 5th dec

How does this whole min stocking rate work?

wrangler · 23-09-2018 7:40am

DJ98 wrote: »

How does this whole min stocking rate work?

It's explained here in the terms and conditions

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingschemesandpayments/basicpaymentscheme/2018forms/ANCTandCs2018.pdf

woody84 · 24-09-2018 6:40pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Yes bps first installment of 70% to be paid from 16th October. Ring 0761064420 if you want to check that everything is in order

Got through to them today eventually. She said the phones were mad for the last few days. Turns out I was eligible for the ANC payment even though I was told by teagasc that I wasn't.

Dakota Dan · 30-09-2018 1:23pm

Nothing here yet and payment not showing on agfood

older by the day · 30-09-2018 3:45pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Nothing here yet and payment not showing on agfood

Nothing here yet either. Last time I was late I got a maps inspection. A fellow out in the yard one morning. Nice surprise

Hurling Hereford · 30-09-2018 5:40pm

older by the day wrote: »

Nothing here yet either. Last time I was late I got a maps inspection. A fellow out in the yard one morning. Nice surprise

If ye had any type of an inspection there's a strongly possibility that your payment will be held up until they are processed unfortunately

jaymla627 · 30-09-2018 6:27pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

Nothing here yet and payment not showing on agfood

Caught here for digital mapping, have 20 ha that’s had no folio numbers since may, rang up last week to be told it’s noting to do with the department and until the company they outsourced mapping to completes new maps I can whistle for it....
No time-frame given so looking like no sfp in October either here

White Clover · 30-09-2018 7:42pm

White Clover wrote: »

I too rang this morning and spoke to a nice lady. She said the hold up was because my bps application was being inspected, and that I won't be cleared for anc payment until that is done first.
I had an inspection earlier this year, tags, register etc which was all 100%. The inspector told me that I was flagged for an area inspection too which has not happened yet. I hope it's not because of others not doing their job properly that is going to cause a delay with my payment?

Got paid on Friday. They did a digital area inspection.....all good. I always leave half a hectare spare!

Dakota Dan · 30-09-2018 8:16pm

older by the day wrote: »

Nothing here yet either. Last time I was late I got a maps inspection. A fellow out in the yard one morning. Nice surprise

Beautiful, all I need after a tough year.

Dakota Dan · 30-09-2018 8:22pm

Hurling Hereford wrote: »

If ye had any type of an inspection there's a strongly possibility that your payment will be held up until they are processed unfortunately

No inspection here.

wrangler · 30-09-2018 8:24pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

No inspection here.

plenty of time for one yet

TITANIUM. · 01-10-2018 6:04am

jaymla627 wrote: »

Caught here for digital mapping, have 20 ha that’s had no folio numbers since may, rang up last week to be told it’s noting to do with the department and until the company they outsourced mapping to completes new maps I can whistle for it....
No time-frame given so looking like no sfp in October either here

**** that's a bit of a pain in the arse. But I suppose tis money in the bank at the same time.

Dakota Dan · 01-10-2018 8:59am

wrangler wrote: »

plenty of time for one yet

I rang the department and there’s no problem just a massive backlog in payments.

sea12 · 01-10-2018 7:46pm

Still waiting on it too but had an inspection

Buford T. Justice XIX · 01-10-2018 7:56pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

I rang the department and there’s no problem just a massive backlog in payments.

Wasn't the switch to completely electronic applications supposed to sort this issue out?

It seems a bit of a cop out to me to say there is a massive backlog when the problem seems to be the manual sorting post application. That's a manpower issue and shouldn't be causing delays for payments.

DJ98 · 01-10-2018 8:53pm

Was told last week, it will take at least 3 weeks before I recieve payment

Also is there any way to find out how much I will recieve in anc and bps as there is nothing listed on agfood and its my first year.

DJ98 · 03-10-2018 11:53am

Was told today that my payment will be delayed due to a commonage error, anyone any idea as to what this could be?

White Clover · 03-10-2018 12:01pm

DJ98 wrote: »

Was told today that my payment will be delayed due to a commonage error, anyone any idea as to what this could be?

Would the person who told you about the delay be best placed to say what the error is? Maybe ring again and ask ?

DJ98 · 03-10-2018 12:16pm

White Clover wrote: »

Would the person who told you about the delay be best placed to say what the error is? Maybe ring again and ask ?

She just said it's a commonage error and that they'd hmget back to me

Dakota Dan · 05-10-2018 8:45am

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Wasn't the switch to completely electronic applications supposed to sort this issue out?

It seems a bit of a cop out to me to say there is a massive backlog when the problem seems to be the manual sorting post application. That's a manpower issue and shouldn't be causing delays for payments.

That’s what I was told when I rang, I got a letter today and my application was selected for inspection by remote sensing, everything seems to be in order and cleared for payment. I was thinking as well how could a backlog be almost a month late with payment.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 10-10-2018 12:38pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

That’s what I was told when I rang, I got a letter today and my application was selected for inspection by remote sensing, everything seems to be in order and cleared for payment. I was thinking as well how could a backlog be almost a month late with payment.

Still no idea what's happening with mine. Only told there is a delay with my payment and no explanation why.

Good job they told me there was a delay because I only rang the helpline 8 or 9 times for a chat:rolleyes:

And there's a bit more clarity in the way the increase in ANC payments will be paid out, not final until the review is finished later in they year but I'd expect it to be along these lines anyway.

In a mountain area, the maximum payment for 34ha would increase from €4,038 to around €4,640 – an increase of €600, or €1,150 since 2017.
In a more severely handicapped area, the maximum payment for 40ha would be €3,350 for 2019. This would be an increase of about €230 compared with 2018 and an overall increase of €470 over 2017.
In a less severely handicapped area, the top payment would rise to about €2,800, up from €2,647 this year – again for 30ha. This represents improvement of more than €150 on last year and €330 since 2017.

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/budget-2019-how-will-the-anc-boost-affect-payments-409835

croot · 10-10-2018 1:41pm

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

And there's a bit more clarity in the way the increase in ANC payments will be paid out, not final until the review is finished later in they year but I'd expect it to be along these lines anyway.

In a mountain area, the maximum payment for 34ha would increase from €4,038 to around €4,640 – an increase of €600, or €1,150 since 2017.
In a more severely handicapped area, the maximum payment for 40ha would be €3,350 for 2019. This would be an increase of about €230 compared with 2018 and an overall increase of €470 over 2017.
In a less severely handicapped area, the top payment would rise to about €2,800, up from €2,647 this year – again for 30ha. This represents improvement of more than €150 on last year and €330 since 2017.

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/budget-2019-how-will-the-anc-boost-affect-payments-409835

I doubt they are increasing the area for more severly to 40 ha. That must be a misprint.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 10-10-2018 2:09pm

croot wrote: »

I doubt they are increasing the area for more severly to 40 ha. That must be a misprint.

No idea, croot, but the revision later in the year wouldn't be far from those figures I reckon.

DJ98 · 10-10-2018 6:09pm

If your anc payment is delayed, does that mean the bps payment will also be delayed?

whelan2 · 10-10-2018 6:37pm

DJ98 wrote: »

If your anc payment is delayed, does that mean the bps payment will also be delayed?

Normally

Hurling Hereford · 11-10-2018 7:21pm

croot wrote: »

I doubt they are increasing the area for more severly to 40 ha. That must be a misprint.

If the same distribution applied to this year's increase, the top rates would change as follows, according to an IFA calculation:

In a mountain area, the maximum payment for 34ha would increase from €4,038 to around €4,640 – an increase of €600, or €1,150 since 2017.
In a more severely handicapped area, the maximum payment for 30ha would be €3,350 for 2019. This would be an increase of about €230 compared with 2018 and an overall increase of €470 over 2017.
In a less severely handicapped area, the top payment would rise to about €2,800, up from €2,647 this year – again for 30ha. This represents improvement of more than €150 on last year and €330 since 2017.
The ANC scheme will also undergo significant change with the new delineation of eligible areas by the end of this year. This may affect the way additional funding is distributed.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 14-10-2018 11:49am

My BPS is showing up on Agfood but the ANC isn't

Back on the phone on Monday again:mad:

charolais0153 · 14-10-2018 11:52am

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

My BPS is showing up on Agfood but the ANC isn't

Back on the phone on Monday again:mad:

Inspection?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 14-10-2018 12:08pm

charolais0153 wrote: »

Inspection?

Had them and passed them all. If an inspection was holding payment up, surely the BPS would be held up too

Dakota Dan · 14-10-2018 2:15pm

DJ98 wrote: »

If your anc payment is delayed, does that mean the bps payment will also be delayed?

Not in my case anyway, my payment is showing on agfood now anc due tomorrow and sfp on Tuesday.

woody84 · 14-10-2018 3:04pm

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

My BPS is showing up on Agfood but the ANC isn't

Back on the phone on Monday again:mad:

Same as this. But I received a form saying I was claiming for land in an ANC area but i hadn't ticked the box on the BPS application because the guy in teagasc told me I wasn't eligible for it when i was making some map changes. Was adding some reclaimed land. So i ticked the ANC confirmation box on this form and sent it straight back. Can i expect an inspection before payment? Had a low flying plane pass over the land twice couple of weeks ago.

Base price · 14-10-2018 3:14pm

woody84 wrote: »

Same as this. But I received a form saying I was claiming for land in an ANC area but i hadn't ticked the box on the BPS application because the guy in teagasc told me I wasn't eligible for it when i was making some map changes. Was adding some reclaimed land. So i ticked the ANC confirmation box on this form and sent it straight back. Can i expect an inspection before payment? Had a low flying plane pass over the land twice couple of weeks ago.

From memory Geological Survey Ireland have been conducting aerial surveys of Ireland since last year. That was probably the plane that you saw. ESB use helicopters to survey power lines.

DAFM use satellite imagery firstly and then follow up with physical/on the ground inspection.
Here is a link from last year. It called the Tellus geoscience mapping program.
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/farmers-warned-about-low-flying-aircraft-which-may-startle-livestock/

woody84 · 14-10-2018 3:32pm

Base price wrote: »

From memory Geological Survey Ireland have been conducting aerial surveys of Ireland since last year. That was probably the plane that you saw. ESB use helicopters to survey power lines.

DAFM use satellite imagery firstly and then follow up with physical/on the ground inspection.
Here is a link from last year. It called the Tellus geoscience mapping program.
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/farmers-warned-about-low-flying-aircraft-which-may-startle-livestock/

This was a dark grey/black plane but maybe totally unrelated. But it passed over one side of my land and came back over the other about 10 mins later

Base price · 14-10-2018 3:41pm

woody84 wrote: »

This was a dark grey/black plane but maybe totally unrelated. But it passed over one side of my land and came back over the other about 10 mins later

https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/news-and-media/press-releases/Pages/Tellus-Embarks-on-Seventh-Year-of-National-Survey-First-Flight-Takes-off-over-counties-Limerick,-Tipperary-and-Cork.aspx
https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Postcodes/eircode-stories/Pages/GSI-Tellus.aspx

arctictree · 15-10-2018 10:17am

My BPS payment is up on Agfood for payment on 16th Oct.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 15-10-2018 3:25pm

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Had them and passed them all. If an inspection was holding payment up, surely the BPS would be held up too

Rang this morning and the guy I was talking to was more clueless than me but said it should be passed and there was no reason for it not to be that he could see.

I got a letter in the post saying I had passed the remote sensing without any issues. First mention of remote sensing from the Dept. But this doesn't seem to show in the Dept files for some reason?

DJ98 · 15-10-2018 7:57pm

My payment is down to be paid yesterday on agfood but have not received it yet, only appeared there yesterday

Attie · 16-10-2018 4:57pm

Down for payment 18/10/18.
would someone be good enough to explain DPS payment thanks.

DJ98 · 16-10-2018 8:34pm

Attie wrote: »

Down for payment 18/10/18.
would someone be good enough to explain DPS payment thanks.

My understanding of dps is that its the bps payment

whelan2 · 16-10-2018 8:37pm

Direct payment maybe , dunno what the s is

jimmydkid · 16-10-2018 9:53pm

I finally got my anc payment today, I had rang three times about it and got a story about having a double claim on forestry which was news to me as I don’t claim anc or bps on forestry, it seems I couldn’t do anything about the delay as they had to sort it themselves.
I think they must be giving out bonuses to staff to delay payment as long as possible and get a bit of interest from our few quid😁

KatyMac · 17-10-2018 12:01pm

Received today, spent today - happiness is a cleared (for now) co-op bill!

DJ98 · 18-10-2018 9:36am

Payment is listed in agfood as being paid into bank but not showing in account yet, any ideas?

tellmeabit · 18-10-2018 9:43am

DJ98 wrote:

Payment is listed in agfood as being paid into bank but not showing in account yet, any ideas?

Can differ a few days. Mine was out by 2

anthony500_1 · 18-10-2018 11:56am

DJ98 wrote:

Payment is listed in agfood as being paid into bank but not showing in account yet, any ideas?

Same here was showing up Monday only paid yesterday, hang tight it's on the way

roosky · 18-10-2018 10:43pm

where can i see is status on ag food?

ANC Payment.

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