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Better Call Saul ***Spoilers***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭De Bhál




    And then we get not one but 2 great scenes from Eduardo (with Hector and Gus).


    he's top class - hope to see a lot more of him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,836 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    It's the wonderful details that make this show so outstanding.

    Jimmy did not choose the two schools he mentioned during his hearing at random

    Both schools were mentioned by Howard in his eulogy for Chuck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,505 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    De Bhál wrote: »
    he's top class - hope to see a lot more of him

    Yeah, he is very believable friendly on the surface, with an undercurrent.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Wow Just saw that Saul mentioned Lalo in Breaking Bad !!!

    Incredible!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Wow Just saw that Saul mentioned Lalo in Breaking Bad !!!

    Incredible!

    Actually, that's TWO incredibles. 1. How many years ago was that scene written, being probably the only time Lalo was mentioned, and now the name is resurrected. 2. Gormduhgorm remembered it!!!

    Despite congratulating myself on spotting certain details (and yes, imagining others) I'm really only in the ha'penny place:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    Character from Breaking Bad pops up in Breaking Bad spinoff Better Call Saul....

    Am I missing something?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,261 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Nailed the teaser scene, naturally. I thought Hans Gruber was gonna show up asking about his detonators. :pac: And the truck, almost hoping we'd have Spielberg's Duel. The framing of the dynamic in Jimmy's hearing was quite telling and the roof top scene was pure dynamite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Pelvis wrote: »
    Character from Breaking Bad pops up in Breaking Bad spinoff Better Call Saul....

    Am I missing something?

    Its not so much the reappearance of that character, as the fact that someone spotted the link. I certainly don't remember the reference to the character in BB (admittedly that might be a weakness on my part), do you? If that scene posted by GDG is the only reference to Lalo, its certainly obscure at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,836 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Maybe my mind is playing tricks on my, but when I saw the pic, I did recall the BB scene and thinking "WTF is Lalo?" at the time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    unkel wrote: »
    Maybe my mind is playing tricks on my, but when I saw the pic, I did recall the BB scene and thinking "WTF is Lalo?" at the time :)

    And do you know what I remember most from that scene? Its black comedy. I kept thinking Laurel and Hardy or Abbot and Costello.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭BandMember


    Just on the truck and the explosion....

    While it was obviously there in part to help obscure the noise from the blast, if you look closely, it was also timed specifically to keep the manhole covers on the road down/in place and from blowing open from the explosion. That's what I saw anyway.

    Again, fantastic attention to detail - who else would have ever bothered with something like that or even have thought of it in the first place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    BandMember wrote: »
    Just on the truck and the explosion....

    While it was obviously there in part to help obscure the noise from the blast, if you look closely, it was also timed specifically to keep the manhole covers on the road down/in place and from blowing open from the explosion. That's what I saw anyway.

    Again, fantastic attention to detail - who else would have ever bothered with something like that or even have thought of it in the first place?

    No, no chance of the manholes being affected by the explosion. The truck crossed over them to create a loud noise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    Can someone explain the lead into Episode 5 in the current series - the intro is him in his office, extracting all his money and shredding files. I have a head like a sieve, but my recollection is that he only got into that office with that secretary in Breaking Bad, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 El Grifo


    Can someone explain the lead into Episode 5 in the current series - the intro is him in his office, extracting all his money and shredding files. I have a head like a sieve, but my recollection is that he only got into that office with that secretary in Breaking Bad, no?

    They appear to be giving a "flash forward" to when it all goes pear shaped in BB. If you hadn't seen BB you'd be very confused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,836 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Yep, BB. It's the day of reckoning. Saul collects all his money and is about to change identity, never to be seen again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 670 ✭✭✭sightband


    Actually, that's TWO incredibles. 1. How many years ago was that scene written, being probably the only time Lalo was mentioned, and now the name is resurrected. 2. Gormduhgorm remembered it!!!

    Despite congratulating myself on spotting certain details (and yes, imagining others) I'm really only in the ha'penny place:D

    I find it very hard to believe the storyline and characters have all been designed and written from the outset. This show is a spin off, writers will go back on the original show and pick out pieces that are worth developing. It’s not hard to do, pull out some shįte about the background of where los pollos hernanos and make it interesting with some charachter connected to some other character and we are all falling over ourselves calling the writer a genius. They are just making it up as they go along.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    sightband wrote: »
    I find it very hard to believe the storyline and characters have all been designed and written from the outset. This show is a spin off, writers will go back on the original show and pick out pieces that are worth developing. It’s not hard to do, pull out some shįte about the background of where los pollos hernanos and make it interesting with some charachter connected to some other character and we are all falling over ourselves calling the writer a genius. They are just making it up as they go along.

    I agree with you. And as Pelvis put it, seeing BB characters in a BB prequel isn't exactly miraculous. But I think part of the attraction of watching any prequel is spotting these references. No doubt its easy enough to go back and find an obscure link (as the writer) but the beauty is in how that's revealed and made more compelling. I feel the writing is good, but admittedly it has weaknesses (a la Kim's situation). Just reading all the posts on here highlights them. All in all, it doesn't take away from the enjoyment I'm getting from the series, AND from this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    Wow Just saw that Saul mentioned Lalo in Breaking Bad !!!

    Incredible!

    What episode and scene???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    What episode and scene???

    just go back a few pages to post#3188 from gormdubhgorm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59,836 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    All in all, it doesn't take away from the enjoyment I'm getting from the series, AND from this thread.

    I think that applies to all of us in here, brother :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 El Grifo


    I agree with you. And as Pelvis put it, seeing BB characters in a BB prequel isn't exactly miraculous. But I think part of the attraction of watching any prequel is spotting these references.

    What I like about it is seeing where some things / characters in BB came from.
    e.g. The story of Hector Salamanca's bell on his wheelchair.


  • Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm finding it really hard to care about anything to do with building the lab. A story that didn't need to be told.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,486 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    I think I'm the only one who likes Kim :o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 670 ✭✭✭sightband


    I think I'm the only one who likes Kim :o

    She sounds like Bert or Ernie, not sure which one but it’s one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    just go back a few pages to post#3188 from gormdubhgorm

    Thank you,
    Amazing from the writers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,244 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    El Grifo wrote: »
    What I like about it is seeing where some things / characters in BB came from.
    e.g. The story of Hector Salamanca's bell on his wheelchair.

    I kinda have to admit, I didn't particularly like there being a story behind the bell. He can only really move his finger, so a bell is a pretty obvious thing to use. The fact it was a bell from wherever just imbues it with a uniqueness rather than it becoming unique through Hector's use of it.

    But it was a great scene though. I'm liking Lalo as a character. Could be fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭BandMember


    De Bhál wrote: »
    No, no chance of the manholes being affected by the explosion. The truck crossed over them to create a loud noise.

    Have another look at notice the back of the truck and the road underneath it when the explosion happens.... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    Penn wrote: »
    I kinda have to admit, I didn't particularly like there being a story behind the bell. He can only really move his finger, so a bell is a pretty obvious thing to use. The fact it was a bell from wherever just imbues it with a uniqueness rather than it becoming unique through Hector's use of it.

    But it was a great scene though. I'm liking Lalo as a character. Could be fantastic.

    I was waiting for Lalo to open the box and take out a badly burned right hand.
    "eh, 'ector! 'ere is the hand of il professore, as a reminder that NO ONE messes with the Salamancas".
    And he certainly seems like the kind of guy to do just that. But he'd be smiling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭Thammer


    wadacrack wrote: »
    The Kim character is awful really. Her relationship with Jimmy seems very fake too. I know its the intention of the writers to portray this but it just seems a bit much

    The chemistry is so bad I'm guessing they don't like other off screen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Thammer wrote: »
    The chemistry is so bad I'm guessing they don't like other off screen

    Yea seems very forced


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