Mens Rights Thread

09-09-2018 12:49pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Why be amazed K? Consider the half truths and often utter nonsense that is promoted in mainstream "feminism" and believed by most of the population. The "pay gap" is one. That our streets and homes and workplaces are populated with rapists at a level that would shame a war zone is another. The modern "feminist" credo itself, that women are always agentless victims and men are always at fault is about the biggest lie of all. And that's a near universally culturally accepted one too. This "thoughtcrime" nonsense is in the tuppenny hapenny place by comparison. At worst it's an extension of their other usual nonsense.

Oh, I'm amazed because its a concept that can be turned on anyone. The belief that feminists cannot be accused of thought crimes is the retarded part... or that they haven't even considered how open to abuse the whole thing is. It's like giving dynamite to your enemies, turning around, and pointing to your own Ahole as a grand place to stick it.

H3llR4iser · 09-09-2018 1:43pm

Ah, waking up today to the latest one - Serena Williams being (rightfully) penalized and then accusing the referee to be "sexist" (last time I checked, her opponent was a woman), because in her head "this doesn't' happen to men". Bullsh1t of the highest magnitude, as it's simply in the rulebook - not too long ago also, Fabio Fognini was EXPELLED from the US open for insulting an umpire (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/02/fabio-fognini-thrown-out-us-open-obscenities-umpire).

The extremely horrible, worrisome part of this is that the media are, at best, not willing to take a position against Williams and simply tell it how it is - she was losing against a lower rated player, got frustrated and went into full blown "you dont' know who I am!" bullying mode; Some outlets are even siding with her.

A spectacular demonstration of a number of the current "feminism" fallacies: victimhood complex, "men have everything easy" delusion, refusal of responsibilities for one's own actions (it's always somebody else's fault, or "patriarchy!"). Beautiful.

Calhoun · 09-09-2018 3:52pm

Right now the William sisters are a powerhouse in the sport, the day will come when they are no more media darlings and things will turn on them.

iptba · 09-09-2018 10:05pm

Here's the latest batch of gender-related hashtags I have noticed trending for anyone interested (I know some are not)
(Aside: I'm not on Twitter 24/7 of course and don't look back at lists for when I wasn't on)

Mary Robinson
https://twitter.com/Fiona__Nelson/status/1021474245380063243
https://twitter.com/drcolleenmurphy/status/1021856634891644928

#womensinspire

#GEHE2018
European Conference on Gender Equality in Higher Education on ‘Gender in Academia and Research: Countering Persistent and Emerging Challenges to Equality’

#ICPWC18
The world's first International Congress of Parliamentary Women's Caucuses
https://twitter.com/OireachtasNews/status/1038885153454612481
https://twitter.com/FitzgeraldFrncs/status/1038864675876823040
https://twitter.com/unapower/status/1038853202718994432

JRant · 09-09-2018 10:21pm

"Climate change is not gender-neutral – it affects women far more. So this is not about climate change, it is about climate justice."

One of the dumbest things I've read on the internet in a long time. Does she think men have hidden gills that allow them to breath underwater or special abilities to withstand drought and famine?

Well if there's one thing we know about Big Bird is that she is willing to walk away from responsibility when the next big gig comes her way.

py2006 · 10-09-2018 3:12am

Ah yes, climate change, classic misogyny.

Defunkd · 10-09-2018 7:56am

Don't be so quick to condemn...it's Mary R and a comedienne giving the talk, so it might be a sketch.? It sure sounds like one.

Calhoun · 10-09-2018 10:30am

Whats the deal with the women's caucus does it actually have any meaningful impact? Would a male one also be of use?

iptba · 10-09-2018 12:46pm

Calhoun wrote: »

Whats the deal with the women's caucus does it actually have any meaningful impact? Would a male one also be of use?

I don’t seen male politicians setting one up any time soon. I think they would get attacked by other politicians, by feminists and by some media commentators.

iptba · 10-09-2018 1:03pm

Defunkd wrote: »

Don't be so quick to condemn...it's Mary R and a comedienne giving the talk, so it might be a sketch.? It sure sounds like one.

Reading the article:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/24/mary-robinson-launches-new-feminist-fight-against-climate-change there is no sign it’s a sketch.

Sleepy · 10-09-2018 4:32pm

JRant wrote: »

Does she think men have hidden gills that allow them to breath underwater or special abilities to withstand drought and famine?

Maybe it's a fear that in a post apocalyptic society men's superior physical strength, stoicism and propensity for practical careers might lead to women's role in society reverting to that of child-rearing, home-making, market gardening etc. instead of positions in media, HR, academia and all those other useful areas feminists lean towards...

iptba · 14-09-2018 1:54pm

https://www.facebook.com/HistoryHustle/photos/a.1718941751709144/2011982335738416/?type=3
I thought this was interesting in terms of the pressure for men to provide.
I imagine there were other examples of this. If there was a focus on men's history the way there is a focus on women's history, it might unearth other examples.

My mother previously told me about how Irish men in the middle of the 20th century often ended up having to work on building sites and the like in the UK for most of the year to support their family in Ireland and only come home for short periods like a week at Christmas. It sounds like a hard way to live.

py2006 · 14-09-2018 2:19pm

iptba wrote: »

My mother previously told me about how Irish men in the middle of the 20th century often ended up having to work on building sites and the like in the UK for most of the year to support their family in Ireland and only come home for short periods like a week at Christmas. It sounds like a hard way to live.

Yea, times were tough. A lot of men suffered mentally and emotionally. Yet the picture painted of that period is the suffering women dured at the hand of the patriarchy etc

iptba · 14-09-2018 2:24pm

py2006 wrote: »

Yea, times were tough. A lot of men suffered mentally and emotionally. Yet the picture painted of that period is the suffering women dured at the hand of the patriarchy etc

Probably physically also. Physical work like on building sites isn't easy, especially if you may be expected to work even if injured/in pain. And then a lot would have been be exposed to asbestos and the like.

iptba · 15-09-2018 8:36pm

From 2015
(6 minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBIWYGoi5YM

Argues that when men are negatively portrayed in the past or in the present, they are effectively negatively portraying you and you shouldn't turn a blind eye to it.

iptba · 15-09-2018 8:46pm

From 2016
(2 minutes 29 seconds)
I don't think there is a specific thread on fathers' rights so thought I would post it here. I think the fact that he was male/a father influenced this going to trial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deBxwZqUUtU

iptba · 15-09-2018 10:17pm

‘Feminist’ denial on all the ways women have it better
By Karol Markowicz
September 9, 2018

https://nypost.com/2018/09/09/feminist-denial-on-all-the-ways-women-have-it-better/

It would be hard to give a definitive answer as to which gender has it worse but this article, by a woman, highlights some areas where men appear to have it worse.

H3llR4iser · 18-09-2018 9:40am

iptba wrote: »

https://nypost.com/2018/09/09/feminist-denial-on-all-the-ways-women-have-it-better/

It would be hard to give a definitive answer as to which gender has it worse but this article, by a woman, highlights some areas where men appear to have it worse.

Well thought piece, statistics not often cited (I had no idea about the commute difference) and empirical observations that everyone makes but fails to draw conclusions from (E.g. I just realized a tennis club I go past every day on the way to work...is exclusively populated by women at 9am).

But sure enough, "gender pay gap" and "patriarchy", because these ladies spending their husband's or parent's paychecks at the tennis club would love to be shoveling manure instead, it's just they aren't allowed ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚

iptba · 27-09-2018 12:57am

Just heard the phrase again*: “happy wife, happy life”. This seems to contrast with what might be acceptable to tell women: such an attitude would be criticised and seen as something from the past.

*Admittedly the context here was a sitcom

H3llR4iser · 27-09-2018 12:55pm

iptba wrote: »

Just heard the phrase again*: “happy wife, happy life”. This seems to contrast with what might be acceptable to tell women: such an attitude would be criticised and seen as something from the past.

*Admittedly the context here was a sitcom

Yeah, please...let's not be like the "feminists" - a comedy is a comedy, something to laugh at without reading much into it

iptba · 27-09-2018 1:24pm

H3llR4iser wrote: »

Yeah, please...let's not be like the "feminists" - a comedy is a comedy, something to laugh at without reading much into it

The comedy is just the latest time I heard it. I have heard it numerous times “in real life”. Maybe let’s not be like the feminists and dismiss aspects of men’s lives.

H3llR4iser · 27-09-2018 2:25pm

iptba wrote: »

The comedy is just the latest time I heard it. I have heard it numerous times “in real life”. Maybe let’s not be like the feminists and dismiss aspects of men’s lives.

It's not dismissing, it's just avoiding the "wall against wall" approach that is the go-to strategy these days. Sometimes, things are not meant to be taken seriously, end of the story.

Anybody with an ounce of brain and objectivity will indeed know that there are certain things that "men can't say", which are not only tolerated but encouraged and praised the other way around - a quick look at a specific rhetoric about all men being "potential rapists" is possibly the biggest example. It's about looking in the right places or the risk is that of the "boy who cried wolf" syndrome - which these "thought currents" are already riding on quite intensively...

iptba · 27-09-2018 2:31pm

iptba wrote: »

Just heard the phrase again*: “happy wife, happy life”. This seems to contrast with what might be acceptable to tell women: such an attitude would be criticised and seen as something from the past.

*Admittedly the context here was a sitcom

Exposing the Myth of ‘Happy Wife Happy Life’

February 10, 2018

It may seem like a great idea but this myth can have serious implications to a man, and his marriage.

https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/exposing-myth-happy-wife-happy-life-wcz/

Thoughtful article on this, I thought.

silverharp · 28-09-2018 4:37pm

from my kids school earlier in the week, an apt reminder never to interact with kids while being male, even if they might need your help

Dear Parents,

We have been informed today that two of our Primary School pupils were approached by an unknown middle aged man yesterday afternoon while cycling home, unaccompanied by an adult and outside the school grounds. One of our own teacher’s adult son, who works with children, saw the interaction and was uncomfortable with the incident so he observed from a distance until the children went on their way and the person in question departed in the opposite direction. It may well have been someone the children knew but his feeling was that this was not the case. The guards have been informed and are acting on the information. Please emphasise to your children the importance of not talking to strangers. When possible Primary School children should not go home unaccompanied and if this is not possible then they should be in the company of a friend. Teachers will be speaking to their classes over the coming days and I will keep you informed.

Best regards,

update

Dear Parents,

An update on the alert we sent earlier this week:

Thankfully we now know that the gentleman in question was known to the children and that there is nothing to be worried about. The Gardaí have also been informed and have assured us that we took the right course of action at the time.

Best regards,

Calhoun · 28-09-2018 4:51pm

silverharp wrote: »

from my kids school earlier in the week, an apt reminder never to interact with kids while being male, even if they might need your help

update

Just waiting for them to ruin someones life and be sued. Question i would have for the school is what is a teacher adult son doing around the school? Would he not have easier access to abuse than anything else?

Reviews and Books Galore · 28-09-2018 6:04pm

That is making my blood boil. So, a man talks to two children on a street,the guards are alaterted and everybody gets fearful.

It's very, very strange and very, very unique to Ireland and, maybe, America.

silverharp · 28-09-2018 6:07pm

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

That is making my blood boil. So, a man talks to two children on a street,the guards are alaterted and everybody gets fearful.

It's very, very strange and very, very unique to Ireland and, maybe, America.

in the US they would least arrest the parents for letting their kids walk home from school unsupervised :pac:

Silentcorner · 28-09-2018 6:17pm

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

That is making my blood boil. So, a man talks to two children on a street,the guards are alaterted and everybody gets fearful.

It's very, very strange and very, very unique to Ireland and, maybe, America.

Actually British Airways operate a policy whereby they will remove a child who is travelling unaccompanied from a seat if he/she is placed beside a man travelling on his own.

Modern day "equality" folks.

Jack Moore · 29-09-2018 1:25am

the_pen_turner wrote: »

as much as i haate all this fmanist noscience i have to say that there is a genuine diference between mens sport and womans sport. womans sport is really under promoted and funded

Citation needed

H3llR4iser · 29-09-2018 11:37am

Reviews and Books Galore wrote: »

That is making my blood boil. So, a man talks to two children on a street,the guards are alaterted and everybody gets fearful.

It's very, very strange and very, very unique to Ireland and, maybe, America.

Negative, it's a western society thing, it's the same in other countries, such as Italy - if you're a man and are within 5 meters of a child, you're automatically a paedophile.

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