Slimming World - II

Scraggs · 20-09-2018 07:07PM

I just read an article in one of the tabloids about a woman who is devasted over the news as she eats up to 24 Muller lights a day!

Edit: sorry for the sh!tpost it just shocked me!

Lashes28 · 20-09-2018 10:19PM

Scraggs wrote: »

I just read an article in one of the tabloids about a woman who is devasted over the news as she eats up to 24 Muller lights a day!

Edit: sorry for the sh!tpost it just shocked me!

OMG what else does she eat?? Where does she get the lobby to feed this habit ðŸ˜‚

Does anyone have a pic of free yoghurt? I spent too much time in the dairy aisle checking yoghurt on the app. I felt like a weirdo so left with nothing

jaykhunter · 21-09-2018 01:33AM

SozBbz wrote: »

Was fat free natural yoghurt not always free? I've never synned it.

You're correct, it was always free, and yeah they're just trying to provide an alternative and lessen the blow of having a free food becomes synned. Our counselor would have 4/day so she's been hit pretty hard with Muller. But she was v cool about it, admitting it's 400 cals extra, that it shouldn't have been syn free.

jaykhunter · 21-09-2018 01:37AM

Lashes28 wrote: »

Does anyone have a pic of free yoghurt? I spent too much time in the dairy aisle checking yoghurt on the app. I felt like a weirdo so left with nothing

It's this one: https://m.tesco.ie/mt/www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=281838783
I haven't given up sweetness completely so I prefer the fat free strawberry/peach yogurt (now 1/2 syn per 100g) tho! Worth it

ally_pally · 21-09-2018 12:10PM

Feeling a bit disheartened at the moment. I had a bad day last Saturday (but not dreadful... had a lunch out where I wasn’t counting syns). Every other day I’ve been having tons of speed, 10 syns or fewer per day, all on plan. And I’m still up when I weigh myself at home.

I do feel like my weight loss tends to fluctuate. I’ll stay in and around the same weight for ages and then out of nowhere I’ll have a huge drop. So I’m not giving up and I’m still hopeful. But I’m feeling so discouraged at going to group tomorrow. I had a good week. It’s just not showing on the scales and I don’t feel like sitting there feeling like a failure. Help!!

SozBbz · 21-09-2018 12:13PM

jaykhunter wrote: »

You're correct, it was always free, and yeah they're just trying to provide an alternative and lessen the blow of having a free food becomes synned. Our counselor would have 4/day so she's been hit pretty hard with Muller. But she was v cool about it, admitting it's 400 cals extra, that it shouldn't have been syn free.

Thanks, good to know I'm not going mad!

Scraggs · 21-09-2018 06:21PM

ally_pally wrote: »

Feeling a bit disheartened at the moment. I had a bad day last Saturday (but not dreadful... had a lunch out where I wasn’t counting syns). Every other day I’ve been having tons of speed, 10 syns or fewer per day, all on plan. And I’m still up when I weigh myself at home.

I do feel like my weight loss tends to fluctuate. I’ll stay in and around the same weight for ages and then out of nowhere I’ll have a huge drop. So I’m not giving up and I’m still hopeful. But I’m feeling so discouraged at going to group tomorrow. I had a good week. It’s just not showing on the scales and I don’t feel like sitting there feeling like a failure. Help!!

Look out for non scale victory moments and celebrate them ...like clothes fitting better, going down a size, even comparing photographs before/now etc.
I find sometimes that we can focus too much on the number on the scale and forget to think of the overall picture of how we're feeling in ourselves and even looking. I'm certainly guilty of that anyway!

jlm29 · 21-09-2018 07:58PM

ally_pally wrote: »

Feeling a bit disheartened at the moment. I had a bad day last Saturday (but not dreadful... had a lunch out where I wasn’t counting syns). Every other day I’ve been having tons of speed, 10 syns or fewer per day, all on plan. And I’m still up when I weigh myself at home.

I do feel like my weight loss tends to fluctuate. I’ll stay in and around the same weight for ages and then out of nowhere I’ll have a huge drop. So I’m not giving up and I’m still hopeful. But I’m feeling so discouraged at going to group tomorrow. I had a good week. It’s just not showing on the scales and I don’t feel like sitting there feeling like a failure. Help!!

I watched a video online the other day about this scenario, and it was very insightful. The guy who made the video recommended that if you hit a plateau, you should count calories for a few days, weighing and measuring all your free foods to get an idea of how many calories you’re consuming each day. At the end of the day, if you’re consuming more calories than you’re burning, no matter what foods you’re eating, you won’t lose any weight

ally_pally · 22-09-2018 10:33AM

Thanks for the tips. I find it so hard to stay motivated when I’ve had a bad week. Up 7 today. I’m gutted. I’d accept it if I had been a glutton and ate all around me but I was on plan. I’ll stick with it but finding today’s result hard to take.

whelan2 · 22-09-2018 10:35AM

ally_pally wrote: »

Thanks for the tips. I find it so hard to stay motivated when I’ve had a bad week. Up 7 today. I’m gutted. I’d accept it if I had been a glutton and ate all around me but I was on plan. I’ll stick with it but finding today’s result hard to take.

Up 7 is a hell of a lot. Something isnt right. Go back to week one. Did your consultant say anything, do you do a food diary?

m'lady · 22-09-2018 01:00PM

ally_pally wrote: »

Thanks for the tips. I find it so hard to stay motivated when I’ve had a bad week. Up 7 today. I’m gutted. I’d accept it if I had been a glutton and ate all around me but I was on plan. I’ll stick with it but finding today’s result hard to take.

I’d be gutted too so totally under how your feeling. Possibly an obvious question but are you just over or due your period? I know you’ve been on the plan for a good while but I do find the odd month I have an unnecessary gain when I’m just over mine..

ally_pally · 22-09-2018 03:05PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Up 7 is a hell of a lot. Something isnt right. Go back to week one. Did your consultant say anything, do you do a food diary?

I didn’t feel like getting into discussing it hugely in group but my consultant is going to follow up with me. I agree something isn’t right so I’m going to keep a food diary this week which I haven’t done in ages. I’m also tracking things on My Fitness Pal. I know calorie counting goes against SW to some extent. But I’m worrying maybe I’m going overboard on free foods.

m'lady wrote: »

I’d be gutted too so totally under how your feeling. Possibly an obvious question but are you just over or due your period? I know you’ve been on the plan for a good while but I do find the odd month I have an unnecessary gain when I’m just over mine..

I’m mid-cycle so can’t blame it on my period, much as I’d like to.

Lashes28 · 24-09-2018 08:29AM

whelan2 wrote: »

These are the puddings. Both black and white are 2.5syns for the whole lot. 2 euro each

How did you find the syn value for these?? And the skinny sausages from Dublin meat company are they low in syns?

2 1/2 pound down..starting the gym this week too..

whelan2 · 24-09-2018 09:00AM

Lashes28 wrote: »

How did you find the syn value for these?? And the skinny sausages from Dublin meat company are they low in syns?

2 1/2 pound down..starting the gym this week too..

Consultant told me. There's loads of chickpeas in it

Lashes28 · 24-09-2018 09:47AM

whelan2 wrote: »

Consultant told me. There's loads of chickpeas in it

Had it for breakfast.. Absolutely delicious.

cee_jay · 24-09-2018 10:20AM

Does anyone know the syn value of Avonmore Feel Good Garden Soup?
https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=264499876

When putting it through the syn calculator I am unsure if I should use a free food or non-free food.

Thanks!

tea_and_cake · 24-09-2018 10:24AM

I got a order from the Dublin Meat Co. Delicious. I got the slimmers pork sausages (can't compare to the mallon ones for taste yet but synned 1/2 for two) - tasty enough, white pudding - very tasty, turkey and sweet potato burger - absolutely delicious, JD Seasonings (syn free) cajun - made gorgeous fajitas and taco - haven't tried yet by smells good.

Thanks for the recommendations.

Lashes28 · 24-09-2018 10:35AM

tea_and_cake wrote: »

I got a order from the Dublin Meat Co. Delicious. I got the slimmers pork sausages (can't compare to the mallon ones for taste yet but synned 1/2 for two) - tasty enough, white pudding - very tasty, turkey and sweet potato burger - absolutely delicious, JD Seasonings (syn free) cajun - made gorgeous fajitas and taco - haven't tried yet by smells good.

Thanks for the recommendations.

The chicken rub is delicious too. .so good on chicken breasts and makes up on a spud and veg dinner for having no sauce.
What's syn is the turkey and sweet potato burger?
They are doing protein pots Next Week apparently you just stick them in the microwave. Wonder if they will be low in syns?

tea_and_cake · 24-09-2018 11:12AM

Lashes28 wrote: »

The chicken rub is delicious too. .so good on chicken breasts and makes up on a spud and veg dinner for having no sauce.
What's syn is the turkey and sweet potato burger?
They are doing protein pots Next Week apparently you just stick them in the microwave. Wonder if they will be low in syns?

I put the burger as half a syn to be sure but I think its syn free. Its 50% turkey and 50%sweet potato.

Oh interesting, I'll check those out.

whelan2 · 25-09-2018 10:32AM

Diwn 2 this morning. Got the new sticky toffee bars, they are very good

ally_pally · 25-09-2018 11:24AM

Well done whelan2. 2 pounds is a great loss! Very curious about the new sticky toffee bars. My favourites at the moment are the rocky road and salted caramel.

I'm feeling much more optimistic since my ridiculous gain a few days ago. I've hugely upped my water intake (at least 3 litres a day), made a big pot of soup that's full of speed to have as lunches all this week, and I'm going for walks where I can. It's hard to fit that in around working full time and having a toddler as I'm absolutely wrecked by the time she's in bed. The evenings closing in don't help, but I'm doing what I can. I've started keeping a food diary too which is great. If I'm tempted by something I shouldn't have, the thought of having to write it down and add it to my syn count for the day puts me off!

I still feel a bit confused by my gain, I really don't think it was at all deserved. I do feel like I was on plan, but was perhaps going over on my free foods and I know I was definitely not drinking enough water. l'll be honest. it makes me a bit nervous for what I'll do when I reach my target. The second I relax a little bit will I gain another half stone?!

SozBbz · 25-09-2018 11:45AM

ally_pally wrote: »

I still feel a bit confused by my gain, I really don't think it was at all deserved. I do feel like I was on plan, but was perhaps going over on my free foods and I know I was definitely not drinking enough water. l'll be honest. it makes me a bit nervous for what I'll do when I reach my target. The second I relax a little bit will I gain another half stone?!

Do you want to post up a sample day of what you were eating a the time you had that gain?

I don't want to be dismissive, but water intake (while good) is very much secondary to calories in/calories out. SW is a great framework for lowering calorie intake but its not infallible.

Keep in mind that to gain 1lb you need to overeat by 3,700 calories over and above your daily maintenance rate, so to gain 7lbs in one week means over eating that amount every day. Thats actually hard to do unless you're mainlining fast food.

My suspicion is that if you were genuinely on plan (or at least close to being on plan) then that 7lb gain cannot possibly be real. More likely some fluctuation caused by something else, hormonal or otherwise.

You're far better off to look at your average weight losses/gains than reading too much into individual weeks results.

ally_pally · 25-09-2018 12:08PM

SozBbz wrote: »

Do you want to post up a sample day of what you were eating a the time you had that gain?

Typical day would be:

Breakfast: two slices of BeGood bread toasted with light philadelphia. I wasn't weighing the philadelphia but it would be around 25-30g. On a weekend I'd have the bread with scrambled eggs and maybe smoked salmon (no butter).

Lunch: Flavoured couscous (half a syn to one syn depending on the flavour) with chopped up tomatoes, spinach and onion (whatever veg was in the fridge) sometimes with some sweetcorn or tuna added too. There were two days where I had made SW macaroni cheese and had that for lunch (didn't measure out portions but followed the recipe and I was having the right amount to be considered a portion.

Dinner: fairly basic meat and two veg kind of dinners. One evening I had a boxty pizza which was 3 syns topped with low fat cheddar, mushrooms, tomato puree and ham.

Snacks were fruit during the day, one or two Hifi bars in the evening, one evening I had some crackers and blue cheese (some came from my HexA and some I synned, can't remember how many now) My HexAs mostly came from full fat milk in my coffee so I've been having those, just not as part of my food as such. Weekend nights I had a few drinks at home (within syn limits... thank goodness for gin and rum!)

I had one lunch the previous Saturday after weigh in where I had a bit of a blowout - pie, salads, dessert. Nothing ridiculously outrageous but definitely not on plan, but that shouldn't have accounted for it. There's obviously more to it than just what I'm eating and I do seem to yo-yo, to the point that it's seeming like I'm binging and purging which I'm genuinely not. I feel great in terms of what I'm eating on SW but I do sometimes have massive gains and equally massive losses - I was away for a couple of weeks in the summer, was off plan and lost 9 pounds at my next weigh in!

Overall I'm grand and my weight is coming down in the grand scheme of things. I've come a long way from where I started, but I feel like my body isn't all that consistent even if I am.

SozBbz · 25-09-2018 12:22PM

ally_pally wrote: »

Typical day would be:

Breakfast: two slices of BeGood bread toasted with light philadelphia. I wasn't weighing the philadelphia but it would be around 25-30g. On a weekend I'd have the bread with scrambled eggs and maybe smoked salmon (no butter).

Lunch: Flavoured couscous (half a syn to one syn depending on the flavour) with chopped up tomatoes, spinach and onion (whatever veg was in the fridge) sometimes with some sweetcorn or tuna added too. There were two days where I had made SW macaroni cheese and had that for lunch (didn't measure out portions but followed the recipe and I was having the right amount to be considered a portion.

Dinner: fairly basic meat and two veg kind of dinners. One evening I had a boxty pizza which was 3 syns topped with low fat cheddar, mushrooms, tomato puree and ham.

Snacks were fruit during the day, one or two Hifi bars in the evening, one evening I had some crackers and blue cheese (some came from my HexA and some I synned, can't remember how many now) My HexAs mostly came from full fat milk in my coffee so I've been having those, just not as part of my food as such. Weekend nights I had a few drinks at home (within syn limits... thank goodness for gin and rum!)

I had one lunch the previous Saturday after weigh in where I had a bit of a blowout - pie, salads, dessert. Nothing ridiculously outrageous but definitely not on plan, but that shouldn't have accounted for it. There's obviously more to it than just what I'm eating and I do seem to yo-yo, to the point that it's seeming like I'm binging and purging which I'm genuinely not. I feel great in terms of what I'm eating on SW but I do sometimes have massive gains and equally massive losses - I was away for a couple of weeks in the summer, was off plan and lost 9 pounds at my next weigh in!

Overall I'm grand and my weight is coming down in the grand scheme of things. I've come a long way from where I started, but I feel like my body isn't all that consistent even if I am.

Well, firstly you've no speed in your breakfast, so in terms of satiating value, even if your portions are correct, it won't be keeping you feeling full for long enough so more snacking is likely.

There is definitely room for improvement as not measuring things that are hex's/synned is always going to be an issue - if youre guessing, you're messing!

That said theres no way you'd have put on 7lbs of fat in that diet. Perhaps work off a 4 week average if you're weekly fluctuations are too confusing.

ally_pally · 25-09-2018 12:39PM

I'm not a great lover of fruit and can't quite face it first thing in the morning but I get my "breakfast" speed in as fruit at my desk throughout the morning. Eating an apple at 11am works better for me than forcing it down first thing. I agree there's room for improvement and I'll definitely try and focus on my overall trend rather than week by week.

Sinister Kid · 25-09-2018 01:36PM

ally_pally wrote: »

I'm not a great lover of fruit and can't quite face it first thing in the morning but I get my "breakfast" speed in as fruit at my desk throughout the morning. Eating an apple at 11am works better for me than forcing it down first thing. I agree there's room for improvement and I'll definitely try and focus on my overall trend rather than week by week.

Ally, how's your pooping situation?

If you were backed up it could contribute to the gain.

ally_pally · 25-09-2018 02:07PM

Sinister Kid wrote: »

Ally, how's your pooping situation?

If you were backed up it could contribute to the gain.

I actually think I was a bit backed up so that probably contributed too. Tons of speed this week should... eh... speed things along!

jaykhunter · 25-09-2018 10:22PM

Ally your eating is nothing out of the ordinary (doesn't explain those kind of wild swings) def go to your GP and get bloods done for a bit of piece of mind. He/she'll also be well impressed with your weight loss journey

SozBbz · 26-09-2018 12:50PM

ally_pally wrote: »

I'm not a great lover of fruit and can't quite face it first thing in the morning but I get my "breakfast" speed in as fruit at my desk throughout the morning. Eating an apple at 11am works better for me than forcing it down first thing. I agree there's room for improvement and I'll definitely try and focus on my overall trend rather than week by week.

You might want to look at this. To be considered food optimising the speed needs to be with/before the meal otherwise its just a snack. If you're not having it with the meal, then you're not following the principal of at least 1/3 of your meal being filling/low calorie foods, which is how SW works.

Is there something speedy that you could incorporate into your breakfast or before? I like berries in the morning personally

I'd agree wtih what others have said, hormone swings/constipation/life could be factors, but those swings are very big IMO. No harm to get a blood panel done for your own peace of mind.

autumnbelle · 26-09-2018 02:12PM

Do any of you know if there are any joining vouchers in any magazines? Looking to join tonight

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