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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Politicians need to legislate for a new separate charge of "deliberate endangerment" on the road, to categorise these actions differently from plain careless and inattentive driving.

    This new charge needs to carry very hefty penalties up to lifetime driving ban and imprisonment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    the taxi driver should be treated the same as if he had hit the guy with a baseball bat or used a knife

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭cython


    buffalo wrote: »
    If you report the sort of behaviour in the video they'll tell you to take it to the Gardaí, they're not interested.
    rushfan wrote: »
    Ok, we'll agree to disagree so.

    If you look at the taxi complaint form, should you try to submit a complaint to TFI for either of a road traffic offence involving a taxi, or allegations of a criminal nature, they refer you to the Gardai, so they couldn't be much clearr about their remit here.

    FWIW, I submitted a complaint about a taxi refusing a fare based off the destination (Castleknock to Coolmine) when hailed recently, and I was pleasantly surprised when I got a call a few weeks or maybe months later advising that the driver was interviewed and cautioned, so I don't doubt they take interest in matters within their remit, but these offences just aren't in that remit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,174 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Given that a lot of police stations don’t even have a computer or internet access, I wouldn’t expect much too soon.

    A lot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Corca Baiscinn


    How many decades will it take for An Garda Siochana to do this? Be proactive, recognise risk to cyclists, make it easy for people to report sh1t like this?

    I'd love to know what the issues the Garda have with it are or how WMP resolved them, seems to revolve around possibility of video being tampered with by the person making the complaint. Issues re resources are easily solved if the will is there


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,968 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I'd love to know what the issues the Garda have with it are or how WMP resolved them, seems to revolve around possibility of video being tampered with by the person making the complaint. Issues re resources are easily solved if the will is there


    I don't think that technical/legal issues are the real road blocks. I suspect it is a more fundamental issue - that cyclist safety counts for diddly-squat in Garda culture. They just don't want to hear these reports, so they're not going to make it easy.


    Mc Love wrote: »
    hesker wrote: »
    West Midlands Police are to be applauded for their efforts.

    Don’t quite understand though how the sentence is not more severe. Due care and attention? The driver was very attentive and deliberate in what he was doing.


    This follow-up case is much more satisfying. The gob****e denied it and wouldn't accept the points first time round. Watch the video to see what happened to him.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat




  • Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fian wrote: »
    Surprisingly the comments in teh journal are pretty much universally siding the the cyclist. Why do I find myself saying "surprisingly" though..... :(

    The only person hated more by motorists than the cyclist is a taxi-ist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Another day, another needless altercation with a monkey masquerading as a professional driver and a human.

    At the airport roundabout again, coming from Swords direction, only this time I was turning right into the airport, so took the right lane coming into the roundabout.

    Taxi gent coming up well behind, also going into the airport. First of all tries to pass me on the left to muscle in front of me behind another car that was waiting at the red light. Then he tucks in behind me. The lights go green, I go into the roundabout in the middle of the right lane. As the lane is quite wide, he then tries to muscle pass me on the right, before pulling back, beeping and yelling "F**k off!" from his beautiful Avensis.

    We then pull up at lights at the other side of the roundabout and he starts roaring about how I'm not allowed to be on the "motorway". I told him the "motorway" is about 2k away over there and what he is on is called a "roundabout".

    Comical and depressing in equal measures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    I was coming over the bridge yesterday just about to the right turn to go up by Tara Station yesterday evening. Taxi driver up tight behind me. I could feel him nearly touching the wheel. I was holding my position in the lane. He overtook me on the outside lane then and cut in right in front of me to get into the bus lane.
    Nearly skimmed my handlebars. Then stopped about ten yards away in traffic.

    Fcuking dipso.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,011 ✭✭✭Lambay island


    I was coming over the bridge yesterday just about to the right turn to go up by Tara Station yesterday evening. Taxi driver up tight behind me. I could feel him nearly touching the wheel. I was holding my position in the lane. He overtook me on the outside lane then and cut in right in front of me to get into the bus lane.
    Nearly skimmed my handlebars. Then stopped about ten yards away in traffic.

    Fcuking dipso.
    I know that spot well and experienced the same and as you say you have to hold the lane..On the plus side you were home, showered and having your dinner and he was probably still on quays looking for his next fare


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Ray Bloody Purchase


    I know that spot well and experienced the same and as you say you have to hold the lane..On the plus side you were home, showered and having your dinner and he was probably still on quays looking for his next fare

    True enough. The whole infrastructure is sh1te though. The Quays are mental with buses, taxis, normal traffic and cyclists all vying for space. Ridiculous situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Greentree_uk


    Nearly took out what I can guess was a drunk/junkie this morning, coming up N Strand road and as traffic was backed up hopped into the "Cycle Lane". and the guy stepped out from behind the post box. was not expecting it swerved and missed him but he's lucky to be alive still. didn't stop just kept powering up the hill, gave me a fright. think I'll stick to the road.

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3571317,-6.2432772,3a,75y,69.45h,94.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssb1ZZ7BI_6xzfaelP5j8VQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    Nearly took out what I can guess was a drunk/junkie this morning, coming up N Strand road and as traffic was backed up hopped into the "Cycle Lane". and the guy stepped out from behind the post box. was not expecting it swerved and missed him but he's lucky to be alive still. didn't stop just kept powering up the hill, gave me a fright. think I'll stick to the road.

    https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3571317,-6.2432772,3a,75y,69.45h,94.16t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssb1ZZ7BI_6xzfaelP5j8VQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

    just opened your link and saw this
    https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.3566585,-6.2438173,3a,75y,204.69h,62.08t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLom62YDKh-16jJcrDHbu6A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

    that's interesting. Is it a bridge for bicycles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Greentree_uk


    De Bhál wrote: »

    I've no idea. no markings to indicate. perhaps they will widen he road at some point..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,167 ✭✭✭buffalo


    I've no idea. no markings to indicate. perhaps they will widen he road at some point..

    Yes, it's part of the Royal Canal Greenway route, which seems to be taking forever to build.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭p15574


    I was coming over the bridge yesterday just about to the right turn to go up by Tara Station yesterday evening. Taxi driver up tight behind me. I could feel him nearly touching the wheel. I was holding my position in the lane. He overtook me on the outside lane then and cut in right in front of me to get into the bus lane.
    Nearly skimmed my handlebars. Then stopped about ten yards away in traffic.

    Fcuking dipso.

    Close to there, a while back I was heading north on Tara St, in the right-hand lane to go over Butt Bridge and turn right at the Customs House. I was being tailgated by a taxi driver who eventually undertook me and cut in in front of me, shouting out his window that I wasn't allowed in that lane - "cyclists had to keep to the left kerb". I'm sure he would have had something else to say if I turned right across 4 lanes of traffic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    p15574 wrote: »
    Close to there, a while back I was heading north on Tara St, in the right-hand lane to go over Butt Bridge and turn right at the Customs House. I was being tailgated by a taxi driver who eventually undertook me and cut in in front of me, shouting out his window that I wasn't allowed in that lane - "cyclists had to keep to the left kerb". I'm sure he would have had something else to say if I turned right across 4 lanes of traffic.


    Based on my recent couple of interactions with "taxi drivers", I'm come the the conclusion that either:

    a) Despite being "professional" drivers, their knowledge and understanding of the rules of the road is really poor and the intricacies of traffic flow are actually well beyond their mental capacity.

    - or -

    b) They know they're spouting complete sh*te but don't care because any sense of logic or reason in their head is being overrun by irrational hatred on soon as they lay their eyes on a cyclist, so in their eyes it doesnt really matter if you're right or wrong - once you're on 2 wheels and you are in front of them - you're wrong because you shouldnt be there.


    The sad reality I think is, as Homer Simpson would say, a little from column A and a little from column B.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    Negotiating a two lane roundabout the other day. I'm heading for the 3 o'clock exit and the road is clear all around.
    But wait, what is this? A car approaches along the road leading to the 9 o'clock entrance with great alacrity.
    I'm on the roundabout. I have the right of way, but I just don't like the look of this fellow, or the way he is approaching the roundabout.

    I slow to see what he is up to.

    Not slowing down is what he is up to.

    I continue with caution but assertively enough to get the motorist to come to judder to a stop about a car length past the entrance to the roundabout and just short of my path on the my way round.
    I manoeuver around the front of the car and head for my exit.

    So far so good.
    Then the fellow puts the boot down again, swerves across the two lanes of the roundabout, and exits in the same direction as myself.

    I'm happy enough that I haven't been rammed by this dude, but the dude still has something to say. As he is passing me he opens his passenger window, leans across the lady who is his confused looking passenger, and roars "Hurarrgh do blearrgh thragh!" at me.

    So my question to the forum is what do you think these words of wisdom could be? I'm fairly sure that there were 4 maybe 5 distinct words. I couldn't discern any of them to be from any particular language. I don't think they were a form of apology either, but I may just be basing this on the fact that they looked like a demented wild-eyed skinhead.

    All guesses welcome to solve this mystery!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,406 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    check_six wrote: »
    roars "Hurarrgh do blearrgh thragh!" at me.

    My Guess:

    "Sorry about that mate! my mistake. I hope i didn't scare you with my reckless driving?"

    Too many words maybe? :D


  • Posts: 15,777 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Likely neanderthal dialect for "Have you seen my club pal?"


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    check_six wrote: »
    "Hurarrgh do blearrgh thragh!"
    ="Excuse me but would you mind awfully using the cycle path like the law states because you don't pay road tax or insurance you awful lycra clad person?"


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    It was 'excuse me, your saddle colour and bar tape colour clash' I think?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,023 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    "Non Euro socks" is my guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    p15574 wrote: »
    Close to there, a while back I was heading north on Tara St, in the right-hand lane to go over Butt Bridge and turn right at the Customs House. I was being tailgated by a taxi driver who eventually undertook me and cut in in front of me, shouting out his window that I wasn't allowed in that lane - "cyclists had to keep to the left kerb". I'm sure he would have had something else to say if I turned right across 4 lanes of traffic.

    You do realise that as cyclists we need to find a route to our destination without turning left or right?

    I work on Tara street and am amazed how a 4 lane road through the heart of the city can have zero provision for cycling.
    check_six wrote: »
    So my question to the forum is what do you think these words of wisdom could be? I'm fairly sure that there were 4 maybe 5 distinct words. I couldn't discern any of them to be from any particular language. I don't think they were a form of apology either, but I may just be basing this on the fact that they looked like a demented wild-eyed skinhead.

    All guesses welcome to solve this mystery!

    “An IQ test would keep me off the road” perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭Rechuchote


    That driver was a time traveller from the 18th century. What he was shouting was the traditional battle-cry of the Wild Geese: "Fághaim bealach!"

    This battle-cry is in fact today the central philosophy of all drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,167 ✭✭✭buffalo


    check_six wrote: »
    I continue with caution but assertively enough to get the motorist to come to judder to a stop about a car length past the entrance to the roundabout and just short of my path on the my way round.
    I manoeuver around the front of the car and head for my exit.

    So far so good.
    Then the fellow puts the boot down again, swerves across the two lanes of the roundabout, and exits in the same direction as myself.

    I'm happy enough that I haven't been rammed by this dude, but the dude still has something to say. As he is passing me he opens his passenger window, leans across the lady who is his confused looking passenger, and roars "Hurarrgh do blearrgh thragh!" at me.

    I had something similar happen to me a few years back, driver came in from the 12 o'clock and I didn't think he was going to stop. All I could do was stick my foot out sole-first to take some of the impact instead of him ramming my leg. He managed to brake enough so that he just lightly hit my foot and I toppled over.

    His first words as he came over to me lying on the ground?

    "I stopped just in time."

    I reckon he was the same guy, taking full credit for his elite driving skills which avoided a nearly-inevitable accident. You should be grateful!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    buffalo wrote: »
    I had something similar happen to me a few years back, driver came in from the 12 o'clock and I didn't think he was going to stop. All I could do was stick my foot out sole-first to take some of the impact instead of him ramming my leg. He managed to brake enough so that he just lightly hit my foot and I toppled over.

    His first words as he came over to me lying on the ground?

    "I stopped just in time."

    I reckon he was the same guy, taking full credit for his elite driving skills which avoided a nearly-inevitable accident. You should be grateful!

    I was hit by a motorist on a roundabout and I'm not sure how it happened but instead of ending up on the ground I was knocked on to my feet and after a bit of a slide I ended up running in front of and away from the car for about 10 feet.

    Not really relevant but your story reminded of it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    It was 'excuse me, your saddle colour and bar tape colour clash' I think?
    CramCycle wrote: »
    "Non Euro socks" is my guess

    Jaysis, lads! That's very close to the bone!

    Do we cross paths on the daily commute? Getting paranoid here!


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