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patsy_mccabe · 24-09-2018 09:39PM

furandfeather wrote: »

First two are February, 3rd is December, 4th is end of October and last two were december

Savage weights. So that 580Kg bull was still under a year old. How big is his mother?

TPF2012 · 24-09-2018 09:51PM

furandfeather wrote:

First two are February, 3rd is December, 4th is end of October and last two were december

Very good. What do you feed them to get that weight gain?

furandfeather · 24-09-2018 10:02PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Jaysus theyre heavy!. Were you feeding them in the shed as calves?

Ya they'd have got 1/2 kilo from about 4 weeks till turn out. On 2 kg since middle of September and good aftergrass,moved every 2nd day. My cows would have plenty of milk

furandfeather · 24-09-2018 10:11PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Savage weights. So that 580Kg bull was still under a year old. How big is his mother?

Ya 11 months. He was a heifers calf too. Didn't think he'd be anything like that weight, he was a fierce length. The mother would be 800kgs anyways

tanko · 25-09-2018 08:33PM

furandfeather wrote: »

Ya 11 months. He was a heifers calf too. Didn't think he'd be anything like that weight, he was a fierce length. The mother would be 800kgs anyways

Great weights for age.
Im just wondering what would you consider the ideal breed of cow, what age your heifers first calve and lastly seeing as you've got your calves to those weights at a young age have you ever considered cutting back on cow numbers and finishing your own stock?

Pidae.m · 25-09-2018 09:27PM

furandfeather wrote: »

460kg 1080 ch bull
465. 1100 ch bull
490. 1000 sim bull
580. 1300 sim bull
530. 1140 ch bull
520. 1200 ch bull

Happy enough with that, not great price per kilo but they had weight on their side

Insane weights man

john mayo 10 · 25-09-2018 09:34PM

Anyone in ballina mart yesterday or balla mart today. How were Weanlings doing

furandfeather · 25-09-2018 11:24PM

tanko wrote: »

Great weights for age.
Im just wondering what would you consider the ideal breed of cow, what age your heifers first calve and lastly seeing as you've got your calves to those weights at a young age have you ever considered cutting back on cow numbers and finishing your own stock?

Well I'd be a Simmental man trough and through so they are the base of all my cows, the mother of that 1300 euro lad is 50/50 blonde Simmental. I've 3 ai d to blondes this year so I'll see how they turn out. I calf heifers at every age from 24-32 months. I have finished a few bulls in the past but I couldn't c myself going into it, I wouldn't be big enough I think- even one animal lost would be a big hit for a small lad. Bulls are fierce hard on a shed too I find.

charolais0153 · 26-09-2018 01:35AM

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Anyone in ballina mart yesterday or balla mart today. How were Weanlings doing

A friends 270 kilo belgian blue heifer made 1075 in balla today

leoch · 26-09-2018 07:14AM

Is there alot of big buyers like feedlot men at balla mart the prices the mart themselves report always seems to be very good

croot · 26-09-2018 09:20AM

leoch wrote: »

Is there alot of big buyers like feedlot men at balla mart the prices the mart themselves report always seems to be very good

I'd pretty much ignore all prices marts in the west report because in my experience the top 5 or 6 animals are reported but the average is usually way way lower. I was in castlerea mart during the peak drought this summer and in the farming indo the mart was reporting bullocks making a certain price per kilo. What actually happened was 4 or 5 absolutely exceptional Charolais bullocks made that. An awful lot went through the ring without even a bid much less being sold.

kk.man · 26-09-2018 09:38AM

croot wrote: »

leoch wrote: »

Is there alot of big buyers like feedlot men at balla mart the prices the mart themselves report always seems to be very good

I'd pretty much ignore all prices marts in the west report because in my experience the top 5 or 6 animals are reported but the average is usually way way lower. I was in castlerea mart during the peak drought this summer and in the farming indo the mart was reporting bullocks making a certain price per kilo. What actually happened was 4 or 5 absolutely exceptional Charolais bullocks made that. An awful lot went through the ring without even a bid much less being sold.

No Mart Manager worth his/her salt are going to report a total depressed trade. They will always find the positives and put a gloss on it. It's just part of their job description whereas if they report the truth they would not last long at that game.

Danzy · 26-09-2018 09:53AM

Kanturk Mart had an awful lot of heavy stores yesterday.

Nearly all cattle there were whiteheads or Polly. They had sent out message that feed lot buyers were going to be there.

Lot of good whiteheads at 1.70 a kg.

Danzy · 26-09-2018 09:57AM

kk.man wrote: »

No Mart Manager worth his/her salt are going to report a total depressed trade. They will always find the positives and put a gloss on it. It's just part of their job description whereas if they report the truth they would not last long at that game.

One of the first trips to the Mart I had was with 2 Polly heifers, they appeared in the examiner Mart section, clean delighted.

When I looked at the lots sold, the group of friesians i bought was on top and the writer saying it was a great Mart to get prices like that.

Ouch.

Pidae.m · 26-09-2018 10:24AM

"Quality cattle a great trade but plainer ones
a little harder sold"

Bass Reeves · 26-09-2018 11:12AM

kk.man wrote: »

No Mart Manager worth his/her salt are going to report a total depressed trade. They will always find the positives and put a gloss on it. It's just part of their job description whereas if they report the truth they would not last long at that game.

There si for and against that practice. By reporting exceptionall high prices it will discourage some buyers from travelling to the mart. Then the vicious cycle continues where a small number of lots achieve high prices but the general trade in average stock is poor.

croot · 26-09-2018 12:28PM

kk.man wrote: »

No Mart Manager worth his/her salt are going to report a total depressed trade. They will always find the positives and put a gloss on it. It's just part of their job description whereas if they report the truth they would not last long at that game.

Thats why I said to ignore it. But then depending on who you talk to a mart might be good or bad on any given day. Hard to beat being there in the flesh if possible.

Anto_Meath · 26-09-2018 01:27PM

Carnaross mart have a livestock live web page (i cant post a link to it as I am new here), the pictures of the cattle are poor but it gives an accurate idea of current trade. I think its is aimed at been able to buy cattle on line but cant see that taking off just yet.

tellmeabit · 26-09-2018 04:49PM

did i read about some marts signing up to an app or website where you can see the stock before sale and they report the price of every animal. didnt make note of it as the local marts were not mentioned,..

Simmental. · 26-09-2018 05:50PM

tellmeabit wrote: »

did i read about some marts signing up to an app or website where you can see the stock before sale and they report the price of every animal. didnt make note of it as the local marts were not mentioned,..

Is this the one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHQk60ZwrDU

Fine Day · 27-09-2018 08:43PM

Went to a mart today to see how the trade was. Stores above 400kgs were OK of a trade. Seen 3 nice shapes lim heifers at 430kgs make €960. I picked up 2 handy Aurbac heifers 295kgs born June 17. Not bad shape, small but I recken I will kill them off the grass next June/july without meal. I would be aiming for a 240/250kg kill out weight.
Cost me €320. Unless the whole thing goes pair shape they surely leave me something. Everybody afraid to take a chance on plain stock today. Maybe I am thinking wrong.

Pidae.m · 27-09-2018 08:47PM

Theheff wrote: »

Went to a mart today to see how the trade was. Stores above 400kgs were OK of a trade. Seen 3 nice shapes lim heifers at 430kgs make €960. I picked up 2 handy Aurbac heifers 295kgs born June 17. Not bad shape, small but I recken I will kill them off the grass next June/july without meal. I would be aiming for a 240/250kg kill out weight.
Cost me €320. Unless the whole thing goes pair shape they surely leave me something. Everybody afraid to take a chance on plain stock today. Maybe I am thinking wrong.

My old lad would call them “money getters"

Fine Day · 27-09-2018 08:58PM

Pidae.m wrote: »

My old lad would call them “money getters"

I thought with the fine spell again and bits of fodder been gathered up that handier plane cattle would of picked up abit. Was chatting a guy today that buys cattle for summer grazing and he is selling them for €150 less than he bought them for in the spring bear in mind they were friesian bullocks, never the less it is not good to hear.

Bass Reeves · 27-09-2018 09:12PM

Theheff wrote: »

Went to a mart today to see how the trade was. Stores above 400kgs were OK of a trade. Seen 3 nice shapes lim heifers at 430kgs make €960. I picked up 2 handy Aurbac heifers 295kgs born June 17. Not bad shape, small but I recken I will kill them off the grass next June/july without meal. I would be aiming for a 240/250kg kill out weight.
Cost me €320. Unless the whole thing goes pair shape they surely leave me something. Everybody afraid to take a chance on plain stock today. Maybe I am thinking wrong.

Pidae.m wrote: »

My old lad would call them “money getters"

Lad around me call that buying off the euro savers menu. Light cattle for there age can go both ways. Some thrive like anything and other just struggle along. However they are still quite young cattle. August might be a great time to kill them maybe hitting 300DW@4/KG would bring them into 1200 euro.

Never wrestle with pigs · 27-09-2018 09:22PM

Theheff wrote: »

Went to a mart today to see how the trade was. Stores above 400kgs were OK of a trade. Seen 3 nice shapes lim heifers at 430kgs make €960. I picked up 2 handy Aurbac heifers 295kgs born June 17.

Nice buy. Suckler types? If they are it's a solid waste of time whoever breed them to only have them at that weight at that age. They should leave a nice twist if they grow.

Fine Day · 27-09-2018 09:23PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Lad around me call that buying off the euro savers menu. Light cattle for there age can go both ways. Some thrive like anything and other just struggle along. However they are still quite young cattle. August might be a great time to kill them maybe hitting 300DW@4/KG would bring them into 1200 euro.

There small framed so i would think a 250 DW would be a realistic weight for them. Maybe come next year there will be no trade for cattle like this & I will end up sticking them in the deep freezer. Who knows after next March what way things will be.

Fine Day · 27-09-2018 09:29PM

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Nice buy. Suckler types? If they are it's a solid waste of time whoever breed them to only have them at that weight at that age. They should leave a nice twist if they grow.

Dairy id say.They are not badly done, as they ave nice flesh on them & there not Jersey type either. This weight would be normal from these type of cattle from my experience.

Willfarman · 27-09-2018 09:31PM

They’re good weight enough for age. If they don’t leave a twist we are all fcked!

Fine Day · 27-09-2018 09:37PM

Willfarman wrote: »

They’re good weight enough for age. If they don’t leave a twist we are all fcked!

Fingers crossed. Shere Larry Goodman will take care of it & give us a fare price.

Never wrestle with pigs · 27-09-2018 10:12PM

Theheff wrote: »

Dairy id say.They are not badly done, as they ave nice flesh on them & there not Jersey type either. This weight would be normal from these type of cattle from my experience.

Fair enough, thought that they were suckler types. They would have been fairly Hungry if they were.

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