In tears listening to the radio

Deusexmachina · 24-09-2018 07:56PM #1

Sean O Rourke had a report today from the repossession court in Tralee. I found it really upsetting. There was a very quietly spoken gentle woman in tears about how the bank is threatening her to take her home from her. She has two children and, as a result of a marriage separation, is struggling to cope. The banks don’t care and are scaring her to death.
Then there was a man who was trying to deal with a vulture fund who bought out his loan from Irish Permanent and who is also getting threatened and terrified by these mafioso bully boys.
We bailed out these banks with our income tax. We watched in horror as unsecured bond holder walked away with our money. We propped up their outrageous salaries.
Where are our politicians now? When are we going to stop being so damned passive in the country. We need to defend our citizens from this attack.
I will not forget that poor woman and that poor man I heard this morning. I will not forget at the next election.

The Cush · 24-09-2018 07:58PM

Link - http://podcast.rasset.ie/podcasts/audio/2018/0924/20180924_rteradio1-seanorourke-repossessi_c21436481_21436489_232_/20180924_rteradio1-seanorourke-repossessi_c21436481_21436489_232_.mp3

Allinall · 24-09-2018 07:59PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Sean O Rourke had a report today from the repossession court in Tralee. I found it really upsetting. There was a very quietly spoken gentle woman in tears about how the bank is threatening her to take her home from her. She has two children and, as a result of a marriage separation, is struggling to cope. The banks don’t care and are scaring her to death.
Then there was a man who was trying to deal with a vulture fund who bought out his loan from Irish Permanent and who is also getting threatened and terrified by these mafioso bully boys.
We bailed out these banks with our income tax. We watched in horror as unsecured bond holder walked away with our money. We propped up their outrageous salaries.
Where are our politicians now? When are we going to stop being so damned passive in the country. We need to defend our citizens from this attack.
I will not forget that poor woman and that poor man I heard this morning. I will not forget at the next election.

If we had more repossessions back in the day, we wouldn’t be in this mess now.

OldMrBrennan83 · 24-09-2018 08:00PM

There's not a single politician will care because there's not a single politician if effects.

Renegade Mechanic · 24-09-2018 08:01PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

We bailed out these banks with our income tax. We watched in horror as unsecured bond holder walked away with our money. We propped up their outrageous salaries.

And we'll continue to do so. We're financial livestock. To be used, nothing else. Not sure why more people don't see that tbh

Deusexmachina wrote: »

I will not forget this at the next election

I actually, genuinely belly-laughed. Thanks mate

24-09-2018 08:02PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Sean O Rourke had a report today from the repossession court in Tralee. I found it really upsetting. There was a very quietly spoken gentle woman in tears about how the bank is threatening her to take her home from her. She has two children and, as a result of a marriage separation, is struggling to cope. The banks don’t care and are scaring her to death.
Then there was a man who was trying to deal with a vulture fund who bought out his loan from Irish Permanent and who is also getting threatened and terrified by these mafioso bully boys.
We bailed out these banks with our income tax. We watched in horror as unsecured bond holder walked away with our money. We propped up their outrageous salaries.
Where are our politicians now? When are we going to stop being so damned passive in the country. We need to defend our citizens from this attack.
I will not forget that poor woman and that poor man I heard this morning. I will not forget at the next election.

Hard to overlook the sentiment, left Permanent TSB recently in lieu of excessive charges introduced during recession. Gratitude me eye.

jimmycrackcorm · 24-09-2018 08:03PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote:

And we'll continue to do so. We're financial livestock. To be used, nothing else. Not sure why more people don't see that tbh

Ah well so. Let's all stop paying our mortgages. Free gaffs for all.

retalivity · 24-09-2018 08:03PM

Irish permanent havent existed in years. Are you sure it wasmt a repeat you heard on the radio?

amcalester · 24-09-2018 08:03PM

Your home is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on a mortgage or other loan secured on it.

Deusexmachina · 24-09-2018 08:03PM

verycool wrote: »

Didn't have to get the loans we couldn't pay back, did we?

The goal posts have been moved by these nasty vulture funds. Buying up loans and then squeezing the life out of people - hiking up interest rates and threatening eviction.
Did you learn your history in school?

Deusexmachina · 24-09-2018 08:04PM

amcalester wrote: »

Your home is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on a mortgage or other loan secured on it.

Brilliant. Well done.

everlast75 · 24-09-2018 08:04PM

Doesn't sound that funny OP, tbh??

kneemos · 24-09-2018 08:05PM

You want people to get massive loans and pay back as they feel like it?

Deusexmachina · 24-09-2018 08:05PM

retalivity wrote: »

Irish permanent havent existed in years. Are you sure it wasmt a repeat you heard on the radio?

I meant Permanent TSB (as you well know). But, you know, thanks and all.

domrush · 24-09-2018 08:06PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

The goal posts have been moved by these nasty vulture funds. Buying up loans and then squeezing the life out of people - hiking up interest rates and threatening eviction.
Did you learn your history in school?

Any evidence of vulture funds raising interest rates any more so than the banks ?

The difference between vulture funds and the banks is the vulture funds aren't afraid to knock on the door of someone who hasn't made mortgage payments in 6 months or more and they're dead right

Snotty · 24-09-2018 08:06PM

I've heard all these repossession sob stories already, poor little old ladies and blue rinse grannies. Complete bollox, to end up with a repossession order in this country you've obviously buried your head in the sand for so long and now finally facing the results of your lack of engagement or you've borrowed completely over your means and have been riding the free rent train since.
I have zero sympathy of any of the 100+ plus stories where the truth has been layout in court, not the fluffy story that comes from certain media types.

Mickeroo · 24-09-2018 08:06PM

Was expecting the thread to be about turning on the radio and Come Sail Away by Styx is playing.

Deusexmachina · 24-09-2018 08:07PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

And we'll continue to do so. We're financial livestock. To be used, nothing else. Not sure why more people don't see that tbh

I actually, genuinely belly-laughed. Thanks mate

You’re welcome, mate (big Eastenders fan?)

Fr_Dougal · 24-09-2018 08:07PM

amcalester wrote: »

Your home is at risk if you do not keep up repayments on a mortgage or other loan secured on it.

What means this?

kneemos · 24-09-2018 08:08PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

The goal posts have been moved by these nasty vulture funds. Buying up loans and then squeezing the life out of people - hiking up interest rates and threatening eviction.
Did you learn your history in school?

The reason the banks have passed on loans to vulture funds is because it's so difficult to repossess properties. The very thing our concerned OP is crying over.

Deusexmachina · 24-09-2018 08:08PM

Jesus, I am amazed by the reaction.

Renegade Mechanic · 24-09-2018 08:09PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

You’re welcome, mate (big Eastenders fan?)

DOO DOO DOO DOO DOO DOODOODOODOO
DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUN

amcalester · 24-09-2018 08:10PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

What means this?

Unfortunately it means sweet fùck all.

MAJJ · 24-09-2018 08:11PM

Snotty wrote: »

I've heard all these repossession sob stories already, poor little old ladies and blue rinse grannies. Complete bollox, to end up with a repossession order in this country you've obviously buried your head in the sand for so long and now finally facing the results of your lack of engagement or you've borrowed completely over your means and have been riding the free rent train since.
I have zero sympathy of any of the 100+ plus stories where the truth has been layout in court, not the fluffy story that comes from certain media types.

This was my first thought too but I don't have all the facts and the media rarely shows the full picture, so I'm not going judge

dark crystal · 24-09-2018 08:11PM

verycool wrote: »

Didn't have to get the loans we couldn't pay back, did we?

'We' are all just one lost job or an unexpected illness/ marriage separation away from being in the same position.

Don't be so quick to assume why people are in the position they are. Hopefully you'll never find yourself in their position only to have smug strangers on the internet condescendingly sneering at your predicament.

Renegade Mechanic · 24-09-2018 08:12PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Jesus, I am amazed by the reaction.

Start an anti-banking thread, get anti-reality responses

(Just wait till the pensions get going. We'll soon forget the banks

)

10000maniacs · 24-09-2018 08:12PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

And we'll continue to do so. We're financial livestock. To be used, nothing else. Not sure why more people don't see that tbh

I read the small print on my mortgage terms and conditions. It said if I failed to pay the monthly fee, I would be in danger of losing the property. I will take it on the chin if I can't pay. Thats the deal.
People need to take responsibility for their actions. Its a transaction. Not a donation.

dark crystal · 24-09-2018 08:14PM

Deusexmachina wrote: »

Jesus, I am amazed by the reaction.

Don't be - compassion is an alien concept to many. See below.

verycool wrote: »

No, I skipped the Righteous Indignation class.

I did, however, attend the personal accountability and greed classes.

Get loans that we have no intention of paying back? Well, guess what happens. This.

Ah, it was just the righteous class you took, so?

dotsman · 24-09-2018 08:15PM

The recession was 10 years ago. Anybody who still thinks they can get away with not paying their debts or engaging with their banks can pi$$ off.

Personal Insolvency legislation was introduced 6 years ago. If any of these "poor victims" were serious, they would now be through the process and any excess debt written off. However, they didn't be cause they wanted to get away without paying. instead, we've been bailing them out every month so they can choose not to look after themselves. Fcuk 'em.

The Rape of Lucretia · 24-09-2018 08:18PM

kneemos wrote: »

The reason the banks have passed on loans to vulture funds is because it's so difficult to repossess properties. The very thing our concerned OP is crying over.

The banks like to be part of the part of the community, and need to protect public images. Catches them in a bind a bit.
Vulture funds dont have that issue.

The inability of people in Ireland to live in houses in line with their means is astounding.

MAJJ · 24-09-2018 08:18PM

dark crystal wrote: »

'We' are all just one lost job or an unexpected illness/ marriage separation away from being in the same position.

Don't be so quick to assume why people are in the position they are. Hopefully you'll never find yourself in their position only to have smug strangers on the internet condescendingly sneering at your predicament.

Back about 2014 and for a few years i volunteered with SVP , home visits every week . I had a young family and could relate especially to
those struggling as I wasn't reared with wealth but was fortunate through the recession.

Couple of things , rent housing crisis was blindingly obvious even then. Also as dark crystal highlighted you would be amazed at the people I met and the one or two crisis that got them needing help. It could happen to anyone one of us so quickly. That has always stuck with me.

In tears listening to the radio

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