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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭Hococop


    Only a few teams will afford the contract, colts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Hococop wrote: »
    Only a few teams will afford the contract, colts?

    I’d be thinking them or the Niners if I had to pick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,741 ✭✭✭Hococop


    Paully D wrote: »
    I’d be thinking them or the Niners if I had to pick.

    That would be alot of cap space on the 49ers with Jimmy g and him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Hococop wrote: »
    That would be alot of cap space on the 49ers with Jimmy g and him

    Teams need to rebuild or make a push. You don't often get stars for trade. Packers should go right in and figure out a way. Get an actual running back for the running back position


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭JaMarcus


    I would say the Browns (lot of cap space, and an OC who's worked with Bell before and from what I can see, Bell has been fairly complimentary about Haley publicly) but there's very little chance they'll deal him to the same division.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    You know Gamepass has been great when you get the warning from the Sky box that it’s about to turn off because you haven’t touched the remote in a few hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    Another cracking Redzone. Been watching for years but finally mustered up for Gamepass and worth every penny so far! Also been binging the full NFL film documentaries rather than snippets from youtube.

    Bills and Browns winning this week. Dolphins 3-0, Patriots with a worse record than the Browns, Brees breaking records, Mahomes flying with no sign of stopping, and more over time finishes.

    What a crazy start to the season it has been.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Teams need to rebuild or make a push. You don't often get stars for trade. Packers should go right in and figure out a way. Get an actual running back for the running back position
    He's my favourite RB in the league, maybe my favourite since I started watching in 2002 after LT... and I hope GB go nowhere near him. We've already got Williams, Jones and Monty who make up a solid combo and have much bigger needs elsewhere.

    Last night those three combined for 87 yards on just 15 carries, 5.8 per attempt - and picked up 69 more yards on 9 receptions. Monty was OK running but doing more catching passes (shame he can't pass block or he'd be one of the best 3rd down backs in the league), Williams looked like what he is which is a solid, well rounded back without the next level explosiveness but who can carry inside (and out, a bit), pass catches and block, and Aaron Jones showed exactly why I wrote that long thread about him in the Packers game - the guy is more dangerous with the ball in hand than anyone Rodgers has ever had in his career. Only Jones has real star potential there, but it's a very solid and well rounded trio that has worked well for many teams over the years.

    The problem isn't the talent back there (and personally I would not have got rid of Ripkowski either) but the lack of chances they are given which has been a problem for years and years at this point so long as Rodgers is healthy. At this stage it's fair to say that Mike McCarthy doesn't know how to establish a run game, or really even have much interest in it. In the first half we had 64 yards rushing on 11 carries, and so in the second we just decided to completely abandon it with 4 carries out of 40 plays (yes, 10% of the time!) for 10 yards, completely destroying the decent momentum we had there.

    Running pass plays *73% of the time (141 pass plays vs 53 running plays this season) is ridiculous no matter what the circumstances are, yet this seems to be the order of the day since 2011 if Rodgers is fit, regardless of anything and everything else. It's no different to 2016 when we had passed 71% of the time (725 pass plays vs 294 running plays) - it doesn't matter who you have back there if you refuse to give them the ball. Look at the Patriots for an example of how to balance better - last year they only passed 60% of the time, the same in 2016 and this year they are passing just 59% of the time. That type of balance is much healthier than what we are seeing in GB, and I'm not even seeing a tonne to help me believe McCarthy has any remote interest in changing that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1044232362689728514?s=19

    Another player on D gone for Atlanta, they're luckless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,737 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    From what we've seen for three weeks this season are the Chiefs for real ? I'd say yes as unless there is a big drop off or injuries I don't see where the trap doors come from. Patrick mahomes is a special talent. He has a canon for an arm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭D9Male


    Their D is the obvious trap door.

    They're muck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,475 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    Jesus, that is completely demoralising for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Wow, Schefter reporting that the Patriots planned to trade Gronk to the Lions for draft picks but he said he’d retire if they did it.

    What is with them gutting (or at least being willing to) their receiving options close to Brady’s last window?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,613 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Heck of a rap sheet that Josh Gordon has.

    Hope he gets his head straight and sorts himself out. You'd have to imagine if football can't sort his life out nothing will. Very sad story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,349 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Paully D wrote: »
    Wow, Schefter reporting that the Patriots planned to trade Gronk to the Lions for draft picks but he said he’d retire if they did it.

    What is with them gutting (or at least being willing to) their receiving options close to Brady’s last window?

    Gronk confirmed it after the game yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,933 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Paully D wrote: »
    Wow, Schefter reporting that the Patriots planned to trade Gronk to the Lions for draft picks but he said he’d retire if they did it.

    What is with them gutting (or at least being willing to) their receiving options close to Brady’s last window?
    They said all of that on the Sunday night broadcast last night. Gronk confirmed it in an interview afterwards saying that Brady is the only QB he wants throwing passes to him. So when Brady goes we know Gronk is going too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,728 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Paully D wrote: »
    Wow, Schefter reporting that the Patriots planned to trade Gronk to the Lions for draft picks but he said he’d retire if they did it.

    The Lions and forcing HOFers to retire early. Name a more iconic duo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,933 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I watch redzone a bit but I much prefer to watch a full game. It's become a t more popular these days, it seems to me that those who watch it all the time are score junkies more than real football fans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,467 ✭✭✭Blut2


    Shedite27 wrote: »
    Heck of a rap sheet that Josh Gordon has.

    Hope he gets his head straight and sorts himself out. You'd have to imagine if football can't sort his life out nothing will. Very sad story


    Damn, thats an impressive (awful) rapsheet. Hes lucky hes not dead or in jail. The Patriots really are his last chance saloon. Hopefully the strict atmosphere there gets him sober.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭Jolly Red Giant


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I watch redzone a bit but I much prefer to watch a full game. It's become a t more popular these days, it seems to me that those who watch it all the time are score junkies more than real football fans.

    I couldn't watch redzone - I need to see the shifting momentum in a game - the adaptations and how players and coaches deal with what the opposition throw at them. It has to be a full game for me all the time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I watch redzone a bit but I much prefer to watch a full game. It's become a t more popular these days, it seems to me that those who watch it all the time are score junkies more than real football fans.
    No ads.
    Cleat winner for me. (TV timeouts can lump it).

    It does jump around a bit too much for me but a price I am willing to pay (especially since I am paying for a virgin box anyway and so it is nothing extra while full games would be).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    RedZone is good to have to switch over to during ads etc, and with just 2-3 games on at the same time it can be OK too as they tend to spend long periods with each one. But with 5-6 games on I just can't keep any focus on it at all beyond it being background TV if I'm doing something else at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Paully D wrote: »
    Wow, Schefter reporting that the Patriots planned to trade Gronk to the Lions for draft picks but he said he’d retire if they did it.

    What is with them gutting (or at least being willing to) their receiving options close to Brady’s last window?
    Is it possible they see Brady as having his window closed or closing at this point. If they don't feel they can give him the support he needs for the season they may feel they are better off loading up on picks for the next generation.

    So it might be they don't have faith in Brady or faith in the defense to do enough to give them a shot at the SB.

    Hence the desire for long term value? Not sure I would agree but it is the only logic I can see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Shedite27 wrote: »
    Heck of a rap sheet that Josh Gordon has.

    Hope he gets his head straight and sorts himself out. You'd have to imagine if football can't sort his life out nothing will. Very sad story

    This is at least pretty reassuring to read that he is fully aware of, and something he surely won't have in NE under Belichick: “I’ve been enabled most of my life honestly,” Gordon said. “I’ve been enabled by coaches, teachers, professors — everybody pretty much gave me a second chance just because of my ability.”

    The guy got 87 catches for 1,650 yards and 9 TDs with Weeden and Jason Campbell throwing him the ball, and did it in only 14 games (extrapolated to 16 it would be 1,881 - second most in league history). He might take a small bit to bed in, but I've a feeling Brady is going to link up with him similar to Moss, and in 6-7 months time (is it a 1 year deal?) there is going to be an absolutely mad scramble to sign him for big money from a number of WR hungry teams.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭Niles Crane


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I watch redzone a bit but I much prefer to watch a full game. It's become a t more popular these days, it seems to me that those who watch it all the time are score junkies more than real football fans.

    Redzone is a much better way to enjoy the first 8 or 9 weeks of the season as at that stage the games have less importance and context at that stage of th season.

    Also considering the amount of stoppages in American football it avoids that part of the sport which has always turned people off it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Redzone is a much better way to enjoy the first 8 or 9 weeks of the season as at that stage the games have less importance and context at that stage of th season.

    Also considering the amount of stoppages in American football it avoids that part of the sport which has always turned people off it.
    Gamepass had an excellent setup last year that allowed four games at once which was great for the ads issue (you might only get 2-3 combined minutes over a whole series of games where all were at break). I'm not on it this year, but they've apparently decided to get rid of it for seemingly no reason whatsoever. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,613 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Yeah Redzone is a good way at the start of the season of staying on top of things and seeing other teams. Then as we figure out who are the contenders you know what games to invest 3 hrs in a game that matters.

    8-9.30 on a Sunday night is the best hour of Redzone. There was one night last year that had about 6 last second finishes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭phatkev


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I watch redzone a bit but I much prefer to watch a full game. It's become a t more popular these days, it seems to me that those who watch it all the time are score junkies more than real football fans.

    I usually go with both, either the Jets or whatever matchup I've the most interest in on one screen and then gamepass on the other, best of both worlds!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭Always Be Closing


    Poor Jimmy GQ.

    Off topic - are the Steelers (11/10) worth a big bet @ Tampa Bay tonight?

    Need to put a bankroll together for the Ryder Cup, and am thinking their D will want to improve after the fiasco against my Chiefs last week


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 26,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    The lifeboat has set sail



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