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Broadband infrastructure

  • 23-09-2018 8:51pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭


    What organisation is responsible for broadband infrastructure? As in ESB Networks are responsible for electricity infrastructure but you don't buy it off then anymore. Eircom used to do it all but has it gone the same way as the esb?
    I need to connect my new house to a phone line of some sort for broadband.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    What organisation is responsible for broadband infrastructure? As in ESB Networks are responsible for electricity infrastructure but you don't buy it off then anymore. Eircom used to do it all but has it gone the same way as the esb?
    I need to connect my new house to a phone line of some sort for broadband.

    There is no such thing with broadband.

    Eircom (which is still around) is now operating under 2 brands: Eir is their retail division and OpenEIR is their wholesale division dealing with other providers.

    Eircom has the USO = Universal Service Obligaton. But it only covers phone services.

    There is no state intervention, when it comes to broadband. No guarantee, that you will get broadband. That's what the National Broadband Plan is supposed to change, but that's still a few years, before that'll get anywhere.

    A good place to start is the DCCAE NBP Map: https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/high-speed-broadband-map/Pages/Interactive-Map.aspx

    Then have a look at the Ireland Offline map: http://irelandoffline.org/map/#!/map

    There is the OpenEIR FTTH rollout map at: https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/ ... which is getting fairly out of date now. A better source for FTTH and VDSL is Airwire's product check, as it's the most up to date: http://www.airwire.ie/avail

    Also, if you're within the OpenEIR fibre rollout and it is a new build house, then you first need to organise an Eircode. The providers can't order fibre until you have an eircode. SIRO based services are a lot more flexible there.

    What part of the country are you in ? Urban or rural ?

    /M


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    Marlow wrote: »
    There is no such thing with broadband.

    Eircom (which is still around) is now operating under 2 brands: Eir is their retail division and OpenEIR is their wholesale division dealing with other providers.

    Eircom has the USO = Universal Service Obligaton. But it only covers phone services.

    There is no state intervention, when it comes to broadband. No guarantee, that you will get broadband. That's what the National Broadband Plan is supposed to change, but that's still a few years, before that'll get anywhere.

    A good place to start is the DCCAE NBP Map: https://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/high-speed-broadband-map/Pages/Interactive-Map.aspx

    Then have a look at the Ireland Offline map: http://irelandoffline.org/map/#!/map

    There is the OpenEIR FTTH rollout map at: https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/ ... which is getting fairly out of date now. A better source for FTTH and VDSL is Airwire's product check, as it's the most up to date: http://www.airwire.ie/avail

    Also, if you're within the OpenEIR fibre rollout and it is a new build house, then you first need to organise an Eircode. The providers can't order fibre until you have an eircode. SIRO based services are a lot more flexible there.

    What part of the country are you in ? Urban or rural ?

    /M
    Urban and I have my eircode but when I was onto Eir they say someone will contact me in 5 days and they never do. Should I just try for a phoneline so? I could say I want a land line and then only use it for broadband.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    Urban and I have my eircode but when I was onto Eir they say someone will contact me in 5 days and they never do. Should I just try for a phoneline so? I could say I want a land line and then only use it for broadband.

    Check Airwire's checker, it's the most up to date: http://www.airwire.ie/avail

    If you are covered by VDSL, then you have a choice of a lot of providers: https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

    If you are covered by the rural FTTH scheme, then you have a choice of anyone with the house logo on that list, which is a total of 8 providers.

    And also, in Urban areas, you may be able to get SIRO: https://siro.ie/roll-out/ .. that's a far better network, that what Eir can offer.

    And also ..Virgin might be worth checking.

    /M


  • Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Carrickbeg


    Marlow wrote: »
    Check Airwire's checker, it's the most up to date: http://www.airwire.ie/avail

    If you are covered by VDSL, then you have a choice of a lot of providers: https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

    If you are covered by the rural FTTH scheme, then you have a choice of anyone with the house logo on that list, which is a total of 8 providers.

    And also, in Urban areas, you may be able to get SIRO: https://siro.ie/roll-out/ .. that's a far better network, that what Eir can offer.

    And also ..Virgin might be worth checking.

    /M

    Vdsl is available...whats that? Will Airwire or any of these other companies connect me from telephone pole to house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Carrickbeg wrote: »
    Vdsl is available...whats that? Will Airwire or any of these other companies connect me from telephone pole to house?

    VDSL is what Eir wrongly markets as "eFibre", but it isn't fibre at all. Only to their cabinet. And yes, that is using a phone line.

    You can order from the companies listed here: https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

    If the Airwire checker didn't give you a speed with that, then your choices become limited. Because you would have to be manually added to rollout to avail of it. Only very few inventive providers will have the flexibility to do that.

    /M


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Marlow wrote: »
    then your choices become limited. Because you would have to be manually added to rollout to avail of it. Only very few inventive providers will have the flexibility to do that.

    /M

    What do you mean by this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    What do you mean by this?

    When have you last seen Eir retail, Vodafone or Sky going through the hoops of enabling an ardkey for VDSL when it's not listed in the qualification list ? Much easier to just sell ADSL, when computer says no :)

    /M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Marlow wrote: »
    When have you last seen Eir retail, Vodafone or Sky going through the hoops of enabling an ardkey for VDSL when it's not listed in the qualification list ? Much easier to just sell ADSL, when computer says no :)

    /M

    A relative of mine ordered a new line for a new build recently from eir retail and had no issues getting VDSL on the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    A relative of mine ordered a new line for a new build recently from eir retail and had no issues getting VDSL on the line.

    As I said:
    Marlow wrote: »
    You can order from the companies listed here: https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

    I'm just saying, that if the big players say no, then that doesn't precisely mean no. Nothing more and nothing less. I explained that already elsewhere.

    /M


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