Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

cul beag · 19-09-2018 07:35PM

puzl wrote: »

So long Barry, and thanks for all the great memories and immense service to team and fans.

Like any player that has given service to the cause great credit goes to them for their time and effort. Great memories? That might be stretching it a bit!!
I wonder will we play the sweeper system now that we will have to go with a new fullback? Conor Gleeson is ready made for the position or Conor Prunty and push Gleeson to the corner if Shane Fives retires. Connors(If he stays) probably has one more year left in him and with a half back line of Tadgh Darragh and Aussie we’ll be well set up going forward. Shane Bennett and Barron could be a great pairing at midfield also. Loads of options for the year ahead.

chinguetti · 19-09-2018 07:43PM

KevIRL wrote: »

Are you worried we won't be able to field a team next season PTH?

I better dust off my hurley so from the sounds of it by the doomsayers. My commute from Dublin to training a couple of times a week will be tough for me with work been mad for the next few months with expansion plans and I'm in college at weekends so I can't do the weekends away where we discuss tactics but I'll give it a go and I'll hit the odd ball if needs be.

Do I need my preferred positions somewhere on here :rolleyes:

JesusRef · 19-09-2018 07:43PM

cul beag wrote: »

puzl wrote: »

So long Barry, and thanks for all the great memories and immense service to team and fans.

Like any player that has given service to the cause great credit goes to them for their time and effort. Great memories? That might be stretching it a bit!!
I wonder will we play the sweeper system now that we will have to go with a new fullback? Conor Gleeson is ready made for the position or Conor Prunty and push Gleeson to the corner if Shane Fives retires. Connors(If he stays) probably has one more year left in him and with a half back line of Tadgh Darragh and Aussie we’ll be well set up going forward. Shane Bennett and Barron could be a great pairing at midfield also. Loads of options for the year ahead.

I think that Conor Gleeson has proven he is up there with the beast backs in the country, certainly he looked like he would make a fantastic Full back but my only worry would be his size (but to be fair nothing in his tenacious play so far has shown that to be a problem), Prunty is a beast and could be a great option, the rest of your selections I would agree with also.
Lots to come from Waterford if we get all players to commit.... here's hoping..
On the sweeper system, based on observations of fanning's recent management jobs at club level, I think he will definitely be going with a Sweeper.

19-09-2018 08:42PM

Deisegodeo wrote: »

It's an interesting argument in light of events this year. Paddy joe said the club's will make the decision whether we push for Fraher field or not. What newbridge has shown is that the gaa cannot take away home advantage, though they may wish to.

So if we as county decide we are going to play at Fraher field, with health and safety reducing the capacity to 5 or 6 thousand, how can they stop us? Interesting to see how it develops.

Paddy Joe also stated last year that the clubs would make the decision on walsh park.

Amazing that WP could have held 8k last year, and faher we're looking at 2-3k less and he is fighting to play at home this year.

The mind boggles and he has just highlighted their lack of fight last year.

I hope they stick to their guns, if its 5-6k so be it, home advantage is home advantage

Mastermcgrath · 19-09-2018 08:58PM

In a way its the end of an era with Coughlans retirement, he’s the last of the old school hatchet-man full backs.

Limestone1 · 19-09-2018 09:10PM

914 wrote: »

I hope they stick to their guns, if its 5-6k so be it, home advantage is home advantage

+1 Having home games in the likes of Limerick contributed to the lack of interest in Waterford last year - if they don't follow through on this, no matter how small the allowable crowd , I'd say we might as well not bother fielding a team this year. It's about time the CB grew some balls and stop being bullied by the Munster council

thesultan · 19-09-2018 09:44PM

thesaturdayman wrote: »

Would you like to develop on that? Or are you just happy to make a sweeping statement?

5-6k in fraher vs 20k in nowlan park?

Could back to me when you have a crowd at the league games. You'll have barely a thousand at some of them

19-09-2018 09:55PM

thesaturdayman wrote: »

Would you like to develop on that? Or are you just happy to make a sweeping statement?

5-6k in fraher vs 20k in nowlan park?

Do you really think we would get 20k in Nowlan park for games v limerick and clare?

Mastermcgrath · 19-09-2018 11:10PM

914 wrote: »

thesaturdayman wrote: »

Would you like to develop on that? Or are you just happy to make a sweeping statement?

5-6k in fraher vs 20k in nowlan park?

Do you really think we would get 20k in Nowlan park for games v limerick and clare?

For the Limerick game Id say yes we would

deise08 · 19-09-2018 11:38PM

Who are the refs going to pick on now that there'll be no more Barry??

Thanks for everything Barry, he's been a true soldier for Waterford.

Mastermcgrath · 20-09-2018 05:57AM

deise08 wrote: »

Who are the refs going to pick on now that there'll be no more Barry??

Thanks for everything Barry, he's been a true soldier for Waterford.

Jesus Ive never seen such praise for Barry on here... different story when he was playing

Mastermcgrath · 20-09-2018 05:57AM

deise08 wrote: »

Who are the refs going to pick on now that there'll be no more Barry??

Thanks for everything Barry, he's been a true soldier for Waterford.

Jesus Ive never seen such praise for Barry on here... different story when he was playing

deiseach · 20-09-2018 09:27AM

Galway's first away game as the newly-minted All-Ireland champions had a crowd of 8,300. Any suggestion that Limerick will have 10,000+ supporters traipsing across the country following them next summer is pure speculation. Yes, there was a crowd of 34,607 at Páirc Uí Chaoimh but the vast majority of those were home supporters. It also has to be set against the probability that a large number of the 3-4,000 Waterford fans who travelled to our 'home' matches in 2018 will not travel in 2019 at all if we don't get our way on this.

Someone needs to ask the Munster Council what they want: 4-6,000 people in a full Fraher Field set against the backdrop of a carnival atmosphere in Dungarvan or a slightly larger (at best) crowd vanishing into Thurles or Cork.

Motivator · 20-09-2018 09:31AM

Can you imagine Waterford v Limerick on a bank holiday weekend in Fraher Field? That’s the stuff dreams are made of.

Deisegodeo · 20-09-2018 10:27AM

deiseach wrote: »

Someone needs to ask the Munster Council what they want: 4-6,000 people in a full Fraher Field set against the backdrop of a carnival atmosphere in Dungarvan or a slightly larger (at best) crowd vanishing into Thurles or Cork.

It's not the Munster councils decision though, it's a Waterford gaa decision, as has been shown by Kildare and the Newbridge issue this year. Whoever makes that decision within Waterford I don't know, be it county board, clubs, senior management team.

It's a big decision. I'd be in favour of pushing for home advantage and play in Fraher field until Walsh park is finished, whether that is 2020 or 2021.

PTH2009 · 20-09-2018 10:41AM

Deisegodeo wrote: »

It's not the Munster councils decision though, it's a Waterford gaa decision, as has been shown by Kildare and the Newbridge issue this year. Whoever makes that decision within Waterford I don't know, be it county board, clubs, senior management team.

It's a big decision. I'd be in favour of pushing for home advantage and play in Fraher field until Walsh park is finished, whether that is 2020 or 2021.

Prob mentioned before but would all Waterford season ticket holders get tickets ???. The away support would have to get there allocation too

whiteandblue · 20-09-2018 10:43AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Prob mentioned before but would all Waterford season ticket holders get tickets ???. The away support would have to get there allocation too

Say season tickets sales will be down this year with games against the likes of Carlow and Laois and a trip to Parnell Park

DiscoStew · 20-09-2018 12:24PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Prob mentioned before but would all Waterford season ticket holders get tickets ???. The away support would have to get there allocation too

Season tickets will have to be accommodated first. Of capacity is less than the amount of season ticket holders of both counties then it’s the away county will be left short. That’s my understanding of how it works and did work in the Kildare Mayo scenario this year.
The only way we shouldn’t be playing in Fraher Field next year is if management don’t feel it will offer them an advantage.
Alternatively the Central Council could try to force through a change to stop the Newbridge or nowhere type scenario from reoccurring.

20-09-2018 01:10PM

Traffic restrictions announced for around walsh park for Sunday......

*** IMPORTANT TRAFFIC INFORMATION FOR SUNDAY ***

A new traffic plan will be in place around Walsh Park for the game on Sunday.

Vincent White Road (the back of the Convent) will be closed from the roundabout at the Veterinary Surgery and all traffic will be diverted down Cannon Street - players and officials included.
Access through Manor Lawn will be for residents only and parking will not be permitted on the greens.
Keane's Road will be closed in the vicinity of Walsh Park.

We ask all members and supporters to park sensibly, refrain from parking on greens, avoid causing obstructions to entrances or footpaths and allow wheelchairs the ease of access in the area.

Parking will be available in the following locations:
•RSC, Cork Road.
•Rear Car Park at the Waterford Shopping Centre, Lisduggan
•Mount Sion GAA Grounds.

Jjjjjjjbarry · 20-09-2018 01:16PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Prob mentioned before but would all Waterford season ticket holders get tickets ???. The away support would have to get there allocation too

Was that not an issue with Mayo going to Kildare? Maybe the venue was big enough to cover.

Away season ticket holders would have to be terrace, just like we were down in Ennis this year.

hardybuck · 20-09-2018 01:24PM

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

Was that not an issue with Mayo going to Kildare? Maybe the venue was big enough to cover.

Away season ticket holders would have to be terrace, just like we were down in Ennis this year.

Newbridge has 8,200 capacity. Mayo had roughly 3k season ticket holders, Kildare had roughly 1k, and the clubs in both counties got 1,500 for distribution. The rest went to players and sponsors.

Jjjjjjjbarry · 20-09-2018 01:28PM

I thought Mayo would have more than that (lots living in Dublin) but that covers it so.

liogairmhordain · 20-09-2018 01:37PM

Jjjjjjjbarry wrote: »

I thought Mayo would have more than that (lots living in Dublin) but that covers it so.

the GAA puts a cap on the number of season ticket holders. afaik Mayo and Dublin are the only two that are at capacity and applicants have to go on a waiting list

PTH2009 · 20-09-2018 03:52PM

first interview with the new man
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0919/994857-paraic-fanning-waterford/

sounds like he is ready for the challenge and wants to bounce back from the 2018 disaster

liogairmhordain · 20-09-2018 06:54PM

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

In a way its the end of an era with Coughlans retirement, he’s the last of the old school hatchet-man full backs.

He took a fair bit of punishment as well - broken jaw in Ennis last year and a broken hand in Ennis this year.

hardybuck · 21-09-2018 09:38AM

And to round off the debate on the type of coaching background senior intercounty managers tend to have, Liam Sheedy looks like he's going to get the Tipp job again, not their U21 manager.

The writing is on the wall now for the likes of Power. If he ever has ambitions of stepping up, he has a fair idea know what he needs to do. Interesting to see what he does next.

whiteandblue · 21-09-2018 12:34PM

http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/290579

Planning granted!

PTH2009 · 21-09-2018 04:16PM

whiteandblue wrote: »

http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/290579

Planning granted!

thank god for that

its happneing and hopefully it will be a success. Its a pity we wont host non GAA events

The CB along with the Senior panels need to sort out where we play our home games in 2019. Fraher Field hosting a munster championship match ???? it could work but it will be tight

Mastermcgrath · 22-09-2018 04:02AM

hardybuck wrote: »

And to round off the debate on the type of coaching background senior intercounty managers tend to have, Liam Sheedy looks like he's going to get the Tipp job again, not their U21 manager.

The writing is on the wall now for the likes of Power. If he ever has ambitions of stepping up, he has a fair idea know what he needs to do. Interesting to see what he does next.

The managers of the current All Ireland champions Limerick, Clare and Cork were all ex minor and u21 coaches with their counties with arguably even less success than Power (power won both minor and u21 all Ireland’s). That imo ‘rounds off the debate’ that Power just wasn’t rated as being up to the task , not because of his experience or lack thereof.

hardybuck · 22-09-2018 09:49AM

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

The managers of the current All Ireland champions Limerick, Clare and Cork were all ex minor and u21 coaches with their counties with arguably even less success than Power (power won both minor and u21 all Ireland’s). That imo ‘rounds off the debate’ that Power just wasn’t rated as being up to the task , not because of his experience or lack thereof.

No went through all that. Only Clare's were in that bracket. Eddie Brennan going to Laois after taking the Kilkenny U21s is another case in point. And Galway have had constant underage success and never promote their managers.

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