Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

TheChizler · 18-09-2018 10:11AM

rushfan wrote: »

Big time. That's off the scale tbh. Don't just inform the Gardai, there's also the taxi regulator.

If you weren't a paying customer in the taxi then the taxi regulator don't want to know IME. Worth an email anyway.

Alanstrainor · 18-09-2018 10:14AM

rushfan wrote: »

Big time. That's off the scale tbh. Don't just inform the Gardai, there's also the taxi regulator.

The taxi regulator will do nothing. They will direct you to the gardai, which is correct really.

I don't know if I could keep my cool if someone pulled that on me, that's beyond ridiculous.

I had a much less interesting close pass today, by a neighbour, she lives a bit up the road in my estate. She was waiting to pull out of her drive when I passed, it's a narrow housing estate, lots of parked cars left and right so I'm in the middle of the lane. Next I hear her close behind me, and she pushes passed. I sound my horn before she manoeuvres and she sounds hers. I'd say she was millimetres from hitting me and the parked car to her right. And I caught up with her then at the T junction about 15 seconds later. Dumb bint.

rushfan · 18-09-2018 10:17AM

Alanstrainor wrote:

The taxi regulator will do nothing. They will direct you to the gardai, which is correct really.

From my occasional interactions with the regulator through work I would definitely say they'd be interested. I'd certainly be informing them anyway.

magicbastarder · 18-09-2018 10:18AM

Lambay island wrote: »

Looking at replies in tweets, it will be reported. Interesting one to follow.

but he seemed to palm it off to someone else to do it - how seriously will traffic watch take it if someone reported something they saw on a video online?

plodder · 18-09-2018 10:43AM

Traffic watch is very easy to use. I reported a car driving dangerously recently. Turned out it wasn't taxed or insured. I don't know if they prosecuted the driver, but they told me the car is off the road, which seems to be the case, as he used to drive into the same park as me. Anyway, that taxi above needs to be reported by the person who took the video. No point in complaining about behavior like that if they aren't willing to do something about it.

buffalo · 18-09-2018 12:08PM

rushfan wrote: »

From my occasional interactions with the regulator through work I would definitely say they'd be interested. I'd certainly be informing them anyway.

If you report the sort of behaviour in the video they'll tell you to take it to the Gardaí, they're not interested.

rushfan · 18-09-2018 12:29PM

buffalo wrote:

If you report the sort of behaviour in the video they'll tell you to take it to the GardaÃ, they're not interested.

Ok, we'll agree to disagree so.

italodisco · 18-09-2018 12:31PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

he also said 'you're a ****ing dead man' at about 2:17.

Don't know how the cyclists on here are able to take such crap off drivers.
<snip>
Can't believe more cyclist don't back each other up, I'd be in there like a flash if I seen it happen

steamsey · 18-09-2018 12:35PM

italodisco wrote: »

Don't know how the cyclists on here are able to take such crap off drivers.
<snip>
Can't believe more cyclist don't back each other up, I'd be in there like a flash if I seen it happen

While it pains me to say it - you're right. When someone cuts you off like that and then gets out of the car throwing shapes, you are in a fight or flight situation whether you want to admit it or not. That's a direct threat. If you hadn't the camera on I wonder if it would have been a different result.

steamsey · 18-09-2018 12:38PM

Lambay island wrote: »

https://twitter.com/coconutlulz/status/1041788421252022272

This guy simply needs to have his license taken off him

Jesus Christ. What a moron. I haven't seen shapes like that in a while - both physical and verbal (I'll find out who you are!!!!!). He must have a really ****ty outlook on the world with that behaviour. I hope you pursue this to the bitter end.

italodisco · 18-09-2018 12:43PM

steamsey wrote: »

While it pains me to say it - you're right. When someone cuts you off like that and then gets out of the car throwing shapes, you are in a fight or flight situation whether you want to admit it or not. That's a direct threat. If you hadn't the camera on I wonder what if it would have been a different result.

I'm not a believer in violence in general but in situations like that I am, <snip>

I'm sorry for coming across aggressive but I'm sick to death of hard men in cars mouthing off.

Funny thing is when I dismount the bike and square up to them 99% back off straight away.

Cyclists need to back each other up. No need to even say a word but at least pull over and observe if you see such incidents occurring. Youd be surprised how much of a difference it makes, idiots like that taxi driver though, pray to God I meet him and he does that to me lol

Pinch Flat · 18-09-2018 01:04PM

Dublin north quays this morning. Taxi man was't just going to accept me indicating and moving in front of him to get to the left side of the road where the bike lane is - it was previously blocked by buses. He just kept nudging ahead despite me indicating. All in a 24/7 shared bike / bus lane at the Millennium Bridge. He managed to make contact with my bike from behind at low speed. Going to bring the footage to Pearse Street Gardai - I'm just across the way from them.

magicbastarder · 18-09-2018 01:11PM

italodisco wrote: »

I'm not a believer in violence in general

mod note - guys - please leave the threats of violence out of it. any further comments supporting violence will be deleted.

suggesting cyclists engage with physical violence as a reaction to verbal abuse is a very stupid thing.

buffalo · 18-09-2018 01:55PM

rushfan wrote: »

Ok, we'll agree to disagree so.

I've tried it on a few occasions. If you've got a contact in the office, I'll pull out my backdated report list and you can send it on, maybe get a few struck off?

steamsey · 18-09-2018 01:55PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

mod note - guys - please leave the threats of violence out of it. any further comments supporting violence will be deleted.

suggesting cyclists engage with physical violence as a reaction to verbal abuse is a very stupid thing.

Fully agree when it's just verbal abuse without a physical threat. Getting into a physical altercation based on someone mouthing off is silly.

However - when someone cuts you off to stop you, gets out of the car, throws shapes and approaches you (right up to your person) in an aggressive way, then you are in a potentially dangerous situation and people should recognise this for what it is.

There are 3 options - a) stand there and do nothing b) fight or c) peg it. I won't go with a) when this happens to me again. Last time I did, I got a punch before the coward jumped in his car and sped off. I'd give anything to go back to that moment and go with one of the other options.

italodisco · 18-09-2018 02:03PM

steamsey wrote: »

Fully agree when it's just verbal abuse without a physical threat. Getting into a physical altercation based on someone mouthing off is silly.

However - when someone cuts you off to stop you, gets out of the car, throws shapes and approaches you (right up to your person) in an aggressive way, then you are in a potentially dangerous situation and people should recognise this for what it is.

There are 3 options - a) stand there and do nothing b) fight or c) peg it. I won't go with a) when this happens to me again. Last time I did, I got a punch before the coward jumped in his car and sped off. I'd give anything to go back to that moment and go with one of the other options.

Unfortunately the mod would prefer option A so be very careful what you post.....

Annnnnnnd I'm banned in 3, 2, 1......

CramCycle · 18-09-2018 02:05PM

italodisco wrote: »

Unfortunately the mod would prefer option A so be very careful what you post.....

Annnnnnnd I'm banned in 3, 2, 1......

MOD VOICE: The other mod did not say it, just no advocating violence. Most people would quite sensibly go with option C. Lets leave the discussion there or continue via PM.

schemingbohemia · 18-09-2018 02:24PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

but he seemed to palm it off to someone else to do it - how seriously will traffic watch take it if someone reported something they saw on a video online?

Did you miss the bit where he said he'd had no joy from 2 previous reports to the Gardaí? He then said he would report it.

magicbastarder · 18-09-2018 02:27PM

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Did you miss the bit where he said he'd had no joy from 2 previous reports to the Gardaí? He then said he would report it.

yes, i did miss that.

Internet Friend · 18-09-2018 02:38PM

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Did you miss the bit where he said he'd had no joy from 2 previous reports to the Gardaí? He then said he would report it.

Hopefully 3rd time lucky! That colourful individual doesn't deserve to be a "professional" driver.

schemingbohemia · 18-09-2018 02:44PM

Totally agree.

sy_flembeck · 18-09-2018 10:50PM

Weepsie wrote: »

There's a Garda station about 500 metres from where it happened, I'd have been straight in there.

And I'd have made bloody sure he saw me going in too!

Thinkingaboutit · 19-09-2018 08:33AM

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Did you miss the bit where he said he'd had no joy from 2 previous reports to the Gardaí? He then said he would report it.

I suppose if a vehicle gets a string of reports, something happens, well I hope so.

And from reading this thread, camera for the bike might be a wise thing, even just to improve my roadcraft, but also to hopefully note vehicles whose drivers just don't want to be courteous and reasonable.

Also I cannot help noticing that the more threatening the driver, the more doughy and out of condition he is once out of his metal box. Yet in the box he or she is a threat. Thankfully the lunatic driver is rare, the careless one (Facetiming while driving say) is prevalent, and can be as dangerous.

Pinch Flat · 19-09-2018 10:52AM

Such a pain in the a$$ reporting though. Following my incident yesterday, I Went to Pearse Street garda station twice and queued up. Also on hold to Traffic Watch for well over half and hour, rang them twice. I;m making a report of reporting my mate from yesterday though - he deliberately bumped me with his taxi.

Rechuchote · 19-09-2018 10:53AM

Thinkingaboutit wrote: »

Also I cannot help noticing that the more threatening the driver, the more doughy and out of condition he is once out of his metal box. Yet in the box he or she is a threat. Thankfully the lunatic driver is rare, the careless one (Facetiming while driving say) is prevalent, and can be as dangerous.

Back in the late 1980s or early 1990s I read about an early social use of biofeedback in one of the eastern European cities - can't remember which or what country. They gave biofeedback watches to taxi drivers and taught them to use them, so they could learn to put their brains into alpha waves - what's called mindfulness nowadays, I think - when confronted with stressful situations.

As far as I remember, heart attacks dropped dramatically among taxi drivers, and blood pressure results improved.

Lambay island · 19-09-2018 10:54AM

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Such a pain in the a$$ reporting though. Following my incident yesterday, I Went to Pearse Street garda station twice and queued up. Also on hold to Traffic Watch for well over half and hour, rang them twice. I;m making a report of reporting my mate from yesterday though - he deliberately bumped me with his taxi.

Who needs enemies wha?

Ray Bloody Purchase · 19-09-2018 10:54AM

Rechuchote wrote: »

Back in the late 1980s or early 1990s I read about an early social use of biofeedback in one of the eastern European cities - can't remember which or what country. They gave biofeedback watches to taxi drivers and taught them to use them, so they could learn to put their brains into alpha waves - what's called mindfulness nowadays, I think - when confronted with stressful situations.

As far as I remember, heart attacks dropped dramatically among taxi drivers, and blood pressure results improved.

The next time a taxi driver buzzes me i'll kindly ask him to live in the now and practice some mindfulness.

:D:D:D

Pinch Flat · 19-09-2018 11:12AM

Lambay island wrote: »

Who needs enemies wha?

Could have got a nice Mercedes star as a souvenir as well. Maybe next time.....

20-09-2018 07:06PM

Was hit by a car at the Artane Roundabout on cycle home from work this evening. Came off the bike, in a bit of shock. Had a flashing cat-eye front light and hi vis jacket on. Driver admitted complete fault. Called the Gardai down and reported the incident. No injuries to report and not sure if there's much damage to the bike but as I told the driver and Garda I just want the whole thing on record.

Eamonnator · 20-09-2018 07:19PM

downtheroad wrote: »

Was hit by a car at the Artane Roundabout on cycle home from work this evening. Came off the bike, in a bit of shock. Had a flashing cat-eye front light and hi vis jacket on. Driver admitted complete fault. Called the Gardai down and reported the incident. No injuries to report and not sure if there's much damage to the bike but as I told the driver and Garda I just want the whole thing on record.

Make sure there's no damage to your bike, and if there is, ensure that you're compensated.

Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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