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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,757 ✭✭✭smokingman


    The mass of a hydrogen atom is actually less than the mass of its individual electron and proton added together.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Wibbs wrote: »
    The most famous slave of the classical world Spartacus who we think of today as fighting against slavery almost certainly wasn't at the time and in his own head. It likely wouldn't have occurred to him.
    Many freed slaves throughout history have kept slaves.

    The horror of early capitalism on the plantations was the economics of working slaves to death. And not just slaves, we have statistics that show up to 20% of the sailors died during triangular trade voyages.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    They weren't though. That's a myth that has been thoroughly debunked in the last few years.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/17/us/irish-slaves-myth.html

    He says this.

    Without a doubt, life was bad for indentured servants. They were often treated brutally. Not all of them entered servitude willingly. Some were political prisoners. Some were children.

    I’d call an indentured servant who didn’t enter service willingly a slave. I didn’t think they were paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,674 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Phoenix Park is the only north side location with a south side postal address number (Dublin 8 postcode).

    The reason is that James' Street Postal Sorting Office provided postal services to the Phoenix Park and Áras an Uachtaráin because it was considered to be much closer, more convenient and able to provide a more expedient service than the Phibsborough Sorting Office (now Dublin 7).

    Most people probably know this but I only found out in the last ten years :)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Phoenix Park is the only north side location with a south side postal address number (Dublin 8 postcode).

    The reason is that James' Street Postal Sorting Office provided postal services to the Phoenix Park and Áras an Uachtaráin because it was considered to be much closer, more convenient and able to provide a more expedient service than the Phibsborough Sorting Office (now Dublin 7).

    Most people probably know this but I only found out in the last ten years :)

    So is Conyngham Road, IIRC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,674 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    New Home wrote: »
    So is Conyngham Road, IIRC.

    It is. Its considered part of Phoenix Park postally speaking (if postally is a word)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,558 ✭✭✭✭Fourier


    smokingman wrote: »
    The mass of a hydrogen atom is actually less than the mass of its individual electron and proton added together.
    I've mentioned stuff like this up thread, but that's because hydrogen isn't made of a proton and an electron and the weight fact is a good example of something that indicates this. It's just that pretending it is gives you accurate results most of the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    Phoenix Park is the only north side location with a south side postal address number (Dublin 8 postcode).

    The reason is that James' Street Postal Sorting Office provided postal services to the Phoenix Park and Áras an Uachtaráin because it was considered to be much closer, more convenient and able to provide a more expedient service than the Phibsborough Sorting Office (now Dublin 7).

    Most people probably know this but I only found out in the last ten years :)

    I suppose the reason it stands out is that all the Northside postcodes have odd numbers with the Southside postcodes being even.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    He says this.

    Without a doubt, life was bad for indentured servants. They were often treated brutally. Not all of them entered servitude willingly. Some were political prisoners. Some were children.

    I’d call an indentured servant who didn’t enter service willingly a slave. I didn’t think they were paid.


    At least they had access to good dental care.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,674 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    I suppose the reason it stands out is that all the Northside postcodes have odd numbers with the Southside postcodes being even.

    Yep that's it! Only even numbered postcode north of the Liffey :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Maybe they were doing a Liam Lawlor on it. Stretching a postcode to give property a better address, to increase its value.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Jane Austen characters' incomes


    SENSE AND SENSIBILITY 1810 2013 (real value) 2013 (prestige value)
    John Dashwood's income £6,000 £371,460.00 £5,326,200.00
    Willoughby's income after marriage £3,100 £191,921.00 £2,751,870.00
    Mrs Dashwood's and daughter's income £500 £30,955.00 £443,850.00
    Edward and Elinor Ferrar's income £850 £52,623.50 £754,545.00
    Colonel Brandon and Marriane's income £2,000 £123,820.00 £1,775,400.00

    PRIDE AND PREJUDICE 1810 2013 (real value) 2013 (prestige value)
    Mr Darcy's income £10,000 £619,100.00 £8,877,000.00
    Mr Bingley's income £5,000 £309,550.00 £4,438,500.00
    Mr Bennet's income £2,000 £123,820.00 £1,775,400.00
    Annual cost of Mr Bennet's daughters £500 £30,955.00 £443,850.00

    MANSFIELD PARK 1810 2013 (real value) 2013 (prestige value)
    Mr Rushworth's income £12,000 £742,920.00 £10,652,400.00
    Edmund and Fanny Bertram's income £700 £43,337.00 £621,390.00

    EMMA 1810 2013 (real value) 2013 (prestige value)
    Emma's inheritance £30,000 £1,857,300.00 £26,631,000.00
    Mrs Elton's fortune £10,000 £619,100.00 £8,877,000.00

    PERSUASION 1810 2013 (real value) 2013 (prestige value)
    Sir Walter Elliot's fortune (for inheritance by his daughters) £10,000 £619,100.00 £8,877,000.00
    Wentworth's fortune £25,000 £1,547,750.00 £22,192,500.00
    Anne and Wentworth's potential fortune £28,300 £1,752,053.00 £25,121,910.00

    NORTHANGER ABBEY 1810 2013 (real value) 2013 (prestige value)
    Catherine Morland's dowry £3,000 £185,730.00 £2,663,100.00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,558 ✭✭✭✭Fourier


    That's cool New Home, did you do it yourself?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Nope, I wish! Source here.

    I was reading Pride and Prejudice, and I found a line where it said that Wickam's gambling debts amounted to £10,000 at least, and I was curious to find out to how much that was in today's money. I was wondering if adding a zero or two would have been enough - obviously not!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭IvyTheTerrific


    Mr Bennet was a whinger so, he had plenty of money after his daughters' costs were removed! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,562 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    In Costa Rica the streets have no name, or had no names until recently.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-latin-america-29093133/costa-rica-introduces-postal-address-system


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    New Home wrote: »
    Jane Austen characters' incomes


    ....

    The thing is, except for Darcy (effectively an earl) they weren’t the 19C super rich.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Mr Bennet was a whinger so, he had plenty of money after his daughters' costs were removed! :)


    I'm still curious as to how much Lady Catherine De Bourgh would be worth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭IvyTheTerrific


    New Home wrote: »
    I'm still curious as to how much Lady Catherine De Bourgh would be worth.

    At least as much as Mr Darcy, I would imagine.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I thought more, considering how much Mr Collins was gushing over Rosings. And she was "old money". :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭MikeyTaylor


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    I suppose the reason it stands out is that all the Northside postcodes have odd numbers with the Southside postcodes being even.

    Part of Dublin 20 is on the northside


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    To put New Home’s stats in perspective - Jane eyre (written a few years later than Austen’s characters) earned £15 a year as a teacher and £30 a year as a governess. The latter was a generous wage and probably about median. She also had room and board as a Governess which was important, as both were expensive relative to wages.

    Which brings another point. In comparing eras do we compare median income to median income, or look at purchasing power?

    For instance if Jane Eyre was earning the median as a governess then we could multiply by approximately 900 to get the relative position in society today; in the U.K. the median is ~27K. So someone on £30 in janes era is middling as is someone on £27K today.

    If on the other hand you compare what people can buy (using items available then and now) someone on £27k today is much better off than Jane. If she did have to buy food and pay rent on her 30 pounds she would have eaten meat very rarely. If I recall chickens were a week’s wages approximately.

    I think that’s what the prestige figure was showing in NH’s list. The money’s worth relative to the median or average.

    Anyway her characters were all prosperous by the standards of most of society even if they felt poor. Remember they had servants, mostly, while Jane Eyre was a servant herself, albeit a high status one.

    (I didn’t google these figures so I may edit later. I think they are approximately right).

    Edit:

    My 900 ratio looks right. John Dashwood's income of £6,000 was compared to a modern equivalent of £5,326,200

    5326200 / 6000 = 887


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    To put New Home’s stats in perspective - Jane eyre (a few years later Austen’s characters) earned £15 a year as a teacher and £30 a year as a governess. The latter was a generous wage and probably about median. She also has room and board which was important, as both were expensive relative to wages.

    Which brings another point. In comparing eras do we compare median income to median income, or look at purchasing power.

    For instance if Jane was earning the median as a governess then we could multiply by approximately 900 to get the relative position in society today; in the U.K. the median is ~27K. So someone on £30 in janes era is middling as is someone on £27K today.

    If on the other hand you compare what people can buy (using items available then and now) someone on £27k today is much better off than Jane. If she did have to buy food and pay rent on her 30 pounds she would have eaten meat very rarely. If I recall chickens were a week’s wages approximately.

    I think that’s what the prestige figure was showing in NH’s list. The money’s worth relative to the median or average.

    Anyway her characters were all prosperous by the standards of most of society even if they felt poor. Remember they had servants, mostly, while Jane Eyre was a servant herself, albeit a high status one.

    (I didn’t google these figures so I may edit later. I think they are approximately right).

    Edit:

    My 900 ratio looks right. John Dashwood's income of 6,000 was compared to 5,326,200

    5,326,200 / 6000 = 887


    "Prestige Figure" refers to the actual spending power at the time of the income shown.
    [...] costs such as the employment of servants, and all the other trappings of aristocracy, were much cheaper relative to income in 1803. In terms of spending power, Darcy would have been able to buy more with what he had. So his income, and in particular his financial power and influence, might be more faithfully translated using a measure that takes into account changes in GDP per capita, as well as the far greater gap between rich and poor that existed in the early 19th century. That figure works out at around £12m per year[...]
    [...]the "prestige value" [is] what [the figure] was worth compared to per capita GDP, or the average of how much most other people had[...]

    So, the first column shows the figures back in the 1800s, the second column shows that amount converted into "today's" money, and the last column shows the actual buying power in "today's" money of the original amounts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    I bet you knew that its not hens that smell but their poo.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I bet you knew that its not hens that smell but their poo.


    Nope, it's chickens, too.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I bet you knew that its not hens that smell but their poo.
    An there was me thinking it was the nostrils at the base of their beaks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,562 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Just over 100 years ago Vienna was the sixth biggest city in the world by population, behind London, New York, Paris, Berlin and Chicago.

    Now with roughly the same population, it does not make the top 150, probably not even the top 200. All to do with the relative stagnation of population growth in Europe, compared to the rest of the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    Oh, Vienna


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,573 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Just over 100 years ago Vienna was the sixth biggest city in the world by population, behind London, New York, Paris, Berlin and Chicago.

    Now with roughly the same population, it does not make the top 150, probably not even the top 200. All to do with the relative stagnation of population growth in Europe, compared to the rest of the world.
    Big Nasty wrote: »
    Oh, Vienna

    Prime opportunity to reply with "This means nothing to me" missed.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Just over 100 years ago Vienna was the sixth biggest city in the world by population, behind London, New York, Paris, Berlin and Chicago.

    Now with roughly the same population, it does not make the top 150, probably not even the top 200. All to do with the relative stagnation of population growth in Europe, compared to the rest of the world.
    The first city to reach one million inhabitants was (likely)Rome around 50 BC. London didn't get to those numbers until the early 1800's. IIRC Dublin didn't pass the one million mark until the early noughties?

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    I thought Dublin (city) reached it in the early '90s. The whole county was 1.5 million by then, too, I'm almost sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Speaking of Rome, Greece was in the Roman Empire longer than it.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    In 1980, a gigabyte of storage would have set you back a whopping $437,000. In 1990 it would have cost you a good deal less....but still expensive $9000. In 2000 it was a reasonable $11 and today it's $0.004.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    An there was me thinking it was the nostrils at the base of their beaks.

    terrible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,732 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    New Home wrote: »
    I thought Dublin (city) reached it in the early '90s. The whole county was 1.5 million by then, too, I'm almost sure.

    There are more people buried in Glasnevin Cemetery than are alive in Dublin today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    There are more people buried in Glasnevin Cemetery than are alive in Dublin today.

    Belfast City Cemetery is cross denominational and the Protestant and Catholic sides are separated by a wall that runs below ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,384 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    BaZmO* wrote: »
    Belfast City Cemetery is cross denominational and the Protestant and Catholic sides are separated by a wall that runs below ground.

    In case the corpses start fighting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    In case the corpses start fighting.

    When hatred runs deep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    With the new predator movie in cinemas, it might be interesting to know that the idea of the first Predator movie back in 1987 came from a joke that was going around Hollywood in the mid 80s. After Rocky 4 was released in 1985, people were joking that there were no more opponents on Earth for Rocky to fight so if a fifth movie was made, he'd have to fight an alien. Screenwriting brothers James and John Thomas were inspired by that joke and wrote a screenplay based on it which became Predator.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Van Damme originally played the predator but the ended up changing the design.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    Wtf glasnevin cemetery has over 1.5 million bodies buried in it ?

    Or did I miss something !?


    My add is an oldy but goody. There's more trees on earth than stars in our galaxy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭IvyTheTerrific


    You may not know it, but a musical of Predator was made...


    ;)


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    I doubt many Irish people are unaware that the Shannon is Ireland's longest river; by volume of water discharged to the sea per unit time it is also by some distance number one. The second greatest discharge rate is, perhaps surprisingly, of the River Corrib at Galway.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Wtf glasnevin cemetery has over 1.5 million bodies buried in it ?

    Or did I miss something !?


    My add is an oldy but goody. There's more trees on earth than stars in our galaxy
    Though there's three trees for every pair of galaxies.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,192 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    What we call "Chinese Burns" (where a person grabs someone else's forearm with both hands and twists them in opposite directions) is known by many other names in other countries.

    "Chinese burn" or "snake bite" in the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand;
    "Buffalo skin" in India, "snake bite", "Chinese Sunburn" or "Indian rub" in Canada;
    "Indian burn", "Indian sunburn" or "Indian rug burn" in the United States (except in some midwest states such as Wisconsin and Illinois where it is known as a snakebite);
    "Indian burn" in France;
    "Spilli" ("pins") in Italy;
    "Policeman's glove" or "hundred needles" in Hungary;
    "Barbed wire" in the Netherlands;
    "Needles" in Romania and Bulgaria and "Brennessel" ("stinging nettle") in Austria, Switzerland and the southern parts of Germany;
    "Thousand needle stings" in the northern parts of Germany;
    "Manita de puerco" (pork's little hand) in Mexico;
    "Little fire" in the Czech Republic;
    "Thousand needles" in Sweden;
    "Nettle" in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Russia;
    "French cuff" in Norway and Denmark;
    "Kuuma makkara" (hot sausage) or "nokkonen" (nettle) in Finland;
    "Snakebite" in Flanders.

    (List taken primarily from wikipedia)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    New Home wrote: »
    What we call "Chinese Burns" (where a person grabs someone else's forearm with both hands and twists them in opposite directions) is known by many other names in other countries.

    "Chinese burn" or "snake bite" in the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand;
    "Buffalo skin" in India, "snake bite", "Chinese Sunburn" or "Indian rub" in Canada;
    "Indian burn", "Indian sunburn" or "Indian rug burn" in the United States (except in some midwest states such as Wisconsin and Illinois where it is known as a snakebite);
    "Indian burn" in France;
    "Spilli" ("pins") in Italy;
    "Policeman's glove" or "hundred needles" in Hungary;
    "Barbed wire" in the Netherlands;
    "Needles" in Romania and Bulgaria and "Brennessel" ("stinging nettle") in Austria, Switzerland and the southern parts of Germany;
    "Thousand needle stings" in the northern parts of Germany;
    "Manita de puerco" (pork's little hand) in Mexico;
    "Little fire" in the Czech Republic;
    "Thousand needles" in Sweden;
    "Nettle" in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and Russia;
    "French cuff" in Norway and Denmark;
    "Kuuma makkara" (hot sausage) or "nokkonen" (nettle) in Finland;
    "Snakebite" in Flanders.

    (List taken primarily from wikipedia)

    Can confirm this one, just asked Mrs. B :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 548 ✭✭✭barrymanilow


    Most of the huge walls of amplifiers behind and around a rock band on bigger stages like festival s etc don't actually produce sound , they are just there for visual effect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,941 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Most of the huge walls of amplifiers behind and around a rock band on bigger stages like festival s etc don't actually produce sound , they are just there for visual effects
    How does an amplifier produce a visual effect?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    How does an amplifier produce a visual effect?
    Like just a wall of them to look more impressive
    Black-Veil-Brides-fake-cabs.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭PaddyWilliams


    How does an amplifier produce a visual effect?
    By looking cool in the background I imagine? Or something to that effect anyway. All picture, no sound!


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