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Formula 1 2018: General Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,639 ✭✭✭GarIT


    I wonder what's his ambition or motivation to race for a back marker?

    Marchionne had a deal arranged for Ferrari to buy Sauber to have as a b team, that has been delayed but should happen eventually. Kimi has some Sauber shares and when Kimi to Sauber was "leaked"/rumored on some Motorsport news site last week they said he would be paid in shares. The same rumor said Kimi will take over as team principal after retirement and if the team is bought jointly between Kimi and Alfa/Ferrari it might be renamed as Alfa Romeo Raikonnen as the association to Sauber is long gone. It seemed a bit far fetched a week about but they have gotten the first part right, we'll see in time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,137 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Be great if he had one last win, this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,217 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Great to see Kimi stick around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,639 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Esteban Ocon has heavily implied he will not be in F1 next year in a tweet.

    DmzjL1HXcAAhIhJ.jpg:large


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,322 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    GarIT wrote: »
    Esteban Ocon has heavily implied he will not be in F1 next year in a tweet.

    DmzjL1HXcAAhIhJ.jpg:large

    Merc tester for a year?

    Whens Bottas contract up?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,690 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    On the other hand though, all the teams are making their way to Singapore and if anyone was swapping uniforms, they'd have announced that by now. So I'm taking it that Force India and Williams are sticking with their current drivers in the short term at least. Someone on Missed Apex wildly theorised that Lance could be on his way to Indy next year as apparently his Dad's not stupid and can see there's better racers available to him.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,125 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    GarIT wrote: »
    I wonder what's his ambition or motivation to race for a back marker?

    Marchionne had a deal arranged for Ferrari to buy Sauber to have as a b team, that has been delayed but should happen eventually. Kimi has some Sauber shares and when Kimi to Sauber was "leaked"/rumored on some Motorsport news site last week they said he would be paid in shares. The same rumor said Kimi will take over as team principal after retirement and if the team is bought jointly between Kimi and Alfa/Ferrari it might be renamed as Alfa Romeo Raikonnen as the association to Sauber is long gone. It seemed a bit far fetched a week about but they have gotten the first part right, we'll see in time.

    This is my favourite rumour of the entire silly season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,947 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I'd say plenty of interest for these seats when I see it listed out. Possibly the best chance Ocon and/or Vandoorne have of securing a seat.

    Gene Haas has been quoted as saying he is happy to keep the same driver line up.
    Stoll to Force India is done - only Williams big Pay out demands are preventing an instant swap apparently.
    Talk of old faces - BuemI and JEV returning to TR , with Mercedes-Benz stuck for a home for Russell and Ocon.

    Winners of silly season 2018 undoubtedly Renault


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,718 ✭✭✭Charlie-Bravo


    I get a weird feeling that RB's Verstappen will ruin a few of LeClerc's races next year. I am hoping that LeClerc excels immediately and gives Vettel a run for his money. It's all well and good being a number two driver, but if you're getting pole and having good races at the front, it'd be difficult to take it away from him if he's ahead on points!!

    -. . ...- . .-. / --. --- -. -. .- / --. .. ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / ..- .--.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,217 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    It will be an even bigger shame if Ocon is not on the grid next year if some waster like Stroll is there. Money speaks more than talent.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Can the FIA intervene at all in that area or even Chase Carey? I don’t care what people think about Stroll being a champion in the lower series, he isn’t worthy of a place in F1 on merit alone, even Martin Brundle said without the money it’s unlikely he’d have ever made it to the top on talent alone.

    I don’t know enough about Sirotkin other than he’s a pay driver.

    Likewise Ericsson.

    Williams have admitted they need another pay driver next year, another Russian most likely.

    Unless Kubica gets a big sponsor or serious luck, his comeback will be very brief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,961 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    I don't have a major problem with Stroll being on the grid similar to other pay drivers, he's still young and sometimes delivers on race day. I think force India are best off sticking with their line up for the rest of the year to maximise their points but I'd like to see Perez vs Stroll over half a season before judging him too harshly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,115 ✭✭✭kksaints


    Gintonious wrote: »
    It will be an even bigger shame if Ocon is not on the grid next year if some waster like Stroll is there. Money speaks more than talent.

    I'd much rather Stroll being there rather than F1 losing another team and having only 18 drivers on the grid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,894 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Infoanon wrote: »
    Talk of old faces - BuemI and JEV returning to TR ,

    I'd be very surprised by Buemi coming back. Giving up race winning FE and WEC cars, and the posibility of more titles?

    C4 will be showing highlights next year: https://f1broadcasting.co/2018/09/12/channel-4-to-air-formula-1-highlights-in-2019/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,594 ✭✭✭Harika


    Next year there will be some deserving drivers not in F1: Giovanazzi, Vandoorne, Ocon, Russell, Kubica. Not for all of them there will be cockpits.
    It is said that Sauber will take Giovanazzi to partner Kimi. Russell/Ocon might get to Williams, depending on Mercedes pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,690 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Highlights of the 2019 season are confirmed to be airing on Channel 4 next year only.
    http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/sky-c4-to-bring-formula-1-tin-star-no-offence-to-more-viewers
    No word if it's going to be with Channel 4s own team or Sky.
    From an Irish prospective it's important to note that regardless of what happens with Channel 4 highlights coverage, this won't mean a continuation of Eir Sports live coverage. That contract goes over exclusive to Sky Sports from next year.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,936 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    flazio wrote: »
    Highlights of the 2019 season are confirmed to be airing on Channel 4 next year only.
    http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/sky-c4-to-bring-formula-1-tin-star-no-offence-to-more-viewers
    No word if it's going to be with Channel 4s own team or Sky.
    From an Irish prospective it's important to note that regardless of what happens with Channel 4 highlights coverage, this won't mean a continuation of Eir Sports live coverage. That contract goes over exclusive to Sky Sports from next year.

    Nothing new there. I think most of us here knew that only Sky have the races live from next year. That just means there will be even less people watching F1 then which is sad as it seems like it could be a very interesting season. I thought about getting Sky sports F1 but you have to get all the Sky sports channels and none of the rest of them are of interest to me so I decided against it. Maybe I will think about it again for next year. No point having it at the moment when this season is getting near the end of it.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,115 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    AMKC wrote: »
    Nothing new there. I think most of us here knew that only Sky have the races live from next year. That just means there will be even less people watching F1 then which is sad as it seems like it could be a very interesting season. I thought about getting Sky sports F1 but you have to get all the Sky sports channels and none of the rest of them are of interest to me so I decided against it. Maybe I will think about it again for next year. No point having it at the moment when this season is getting near the end of it.
    Is sky sports F1 not free with the HD pack?
    I've had it for ages and that's how I got it initially. Now I have the full sports pack as they have the rights to the football (us football) exclusively too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,938 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Is sky sports F1 not free with the HD pack?
    I've had it for ages and that's how I got it initially. Now I have the full sports pack as they have the rights to the football (us football) exclusively too.

    Yes that was how I got the F1 channel as well, it's still included in mine but not sure if it's still included in bundles for new customers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭flexcon


    Yes I also have the Sky Sports F1 channel, I was advised by Sky it's free with the HD pack. Paying something like 10euro a month?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,115 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Explains the reducing subscription numbers then. Sports pack is very expensive if you don't watch it other than for F1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,322 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    kksaints wrote: »
    I'd much rather Stroll being there rather than F1 losing another team and having only 18 drivers on the grid.

    Rather have 18 than have the same 2 drivers locking out the arsê end of the grid a la Stevens/Mehri providing absolutely nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Hard to believe it was 19 years ago today that the Jordan 199 took victory at Monza with Heinz-Harald Frentzen at the wheel.

    https://twitter.com/1990sF1/status/1039649988207431682


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    I got my crotch stuck on a barbed wire fence when climbing onto the track after the race that day. Well worth it though :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,938 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Rather have 18 than have the same 2 drivers locking out the arsê end of the grid a la Stevens/Mehri providing absolutely nothing.

    A bit of context is key, you're talking about two drivers locking out the back row of the grid in Stevens & Merhi. You do realise which car they were in ? A Manor that wasn't even on the grid in the opening race of the season, a car which was 3 seconds a lap slower than the next car up the road (which was a Mclaren Honda by the way) but yeah no good ever came from a guy floating around at the back of the grid :rolleyes:

    I've said it before about Stroll, there are people who will never let go of the money issue. Stroll could win a race, and they would twist logic beyond comprehension just to arrive at the desired outcome, which is Stroll is bad.

    I don't know how good he is, but he can only race the car he has in front of him. He has an impressive junior career behind him. In his rookie F1 season he finished 1 place and 3 points in the championship behind his teammate, whom by the way, is the 6th most experienced grand prix driver in history.

    Is the money a factor ? Yes absolutely, as it always has been in F1. But it's worthless if they can't do the job on track.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,716 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    skipper_G wrote: »
    A bit of context is key, you're talking about two drivers locking out the back row of the grid in Stevens & Merhi. You do realise which car they were in ? A Manor that wasn't even on the grid in the opening race of the season, a car which was 3 seconds a lap slower than the next car up the road (which was a Mclaren Honda by the way) but yeah no good ever came from a guy floating around at the back of the grid :rolleyes:

    I've said it before about Stroll, there are people who will never let go of the money issue. Stroll could win a race, and they would twist logic beyond comprehension just to arrive at the desired outcome, which is Stroll is bad.

    I don't know how good he is, but he can only race the car he has in front of him. He has an impressive junior career behind him. In his rookie F1 season he finished 1 place and 3 points in the championship behind his teammate, whom by the way, is the 6th most experienced grand prix driver in history.

    Is the money a factor ? Yes absolutely, as it always has been in F1. But it's worthless if they can't do the job on track.

    Who was the most high profile pay driver to actually win a race? Maldonado? High profile for all the wrong reasons that is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,540 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    If English is your first language and you are an F1 driver then you will get a hard time here on boards because you will be in the media more often. Hamilton and Stroll get the majority of the abuse. Alonso, Vettel and Verstappen get away with being pricks all the time. Same goes for Sirotkin and Erikkson. They are pay drivers the same as Stroll but don't get the same treatment from some posters here. Stroll is a better driver than both in my opinion. Hes not a great driver but solid enough to be in a middle to back of grid car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    skipper_G wrote: »
    In his rookie F1 season he finished 1 place and 3 points in the championship behind his teammate

    As I've said before, unless it's a front running car capable of scoring points in almost every race, then points are a bad way to compare team-mates, as just one or 2 lucky results can massively skew the balance. Stroll vs Massa is one such case as it fails to show how he got his ass kicked by a driver in the twilight of his career, who was merely above average in his prime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,938 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Who was the most high profile pay driver to actually win a race? Maldonado? High profile for all the wrong reasons that is.

    In recent years, yep probably Maldonado. Of all time, Niki Lauda.
    As I've said before, unless it's a front running car capable of scoring points in almost every race, then points are a bad way to compare team-mates, as just one or 2 lucky results can massively skew the balance. Stroll vs Massa is one such case as it fails to show how he got his ass kicked by a driver in the twilight of his career, who was merely above average in his prime.

    You make a good point, last year the Williams car scored points in 17 of 20 races, does that qualify as points in almost every race ? In race results it was 13-6 to Massa, he destroyed him alright.....
    Massa had 14 years F1 experience and Stroll was a rookie, it's not normal for a rookie to beat a much more experienced teammate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,074 ✭✭✭Inviere


    skipper_G wrote: »
    it's not normal for a rookie to beat a much more experienced teammate.

    Said Fernando to Lewis :D


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