So... Russia and China are getting friendly

manual_man · 11-09-2018 12:17PM #1

"Russia has launched its biggest military exercise since the Cold War, involving about 300,000 service personnel, in eastern Siberia.

China is sending 3,200 troops to take part in "Vostok-2018", with many Chinese armoured vehicles and aircraft. Mongolia is also sending some units.

The last Russian exercise of similar scale was in 1981, during the Cold War, but Vostok-2018 involves more troops."

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"Mr Putin and Mr Xi are said to get along well too - in June, the Chinese leader called his Russian counterpart his "best, most intimate friend"."

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All taken from BBC.

I dunno about you guys, but I'm concerned what might happen next.

Discuss

Riddle101 · 11-09-2018 12:29PM

Make sense for China and Russia to build stronger relations with each other. They're similar to certain ways and both are constantly at odds with the West.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 11-09-2018 12:35PM

Especially with Trump in charge. If you ever wanted to build a strong and combine forces against a superpower, now's the time to do it.

11-09-2018 12:36PM

Just some posturing from Russia to distract from their pension crisis.

Zulu · 11-09-2018 12:39PM

Ill just leave this here...

https://youtu.be/BJPMrZJsH_Y?t=15s

Irish Praetorian · 11-09-2018 12:46PM

Oh my word two nations conducting joint military exercises in their own countries - RUN FOR THE DAMN HILLS!

mad muffin · 11-09-2018 12:49PM

I have three Vostoks.

Woke Hogan · 11-09-2018 01:03PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Especially with Trump in charge. If you ever wanted to build a strong and combine forces against a superpower, now's the time to do it.

Ridiculous. Do you think Putin and Xi are the Power Rangers or something?

ArchXStanton · 11-09-2018 03:45PM

About time,its needed to counter the US regime and its axis of evil partners

Ten of Swords · 11-09-2018 04:32PM

BBC didn't mention that Russia invited a NATO military (Turkey) to participate too

archer22 · 11-09-2018 05:08PM

I can see an alliance of Russia, China, Turkey and Iran, on the cards.

And that would be some quite formidable military firepower.

Gatling · 11-09-2018 05:42PM

China and Russia have always been close but not always so they nearly went to war previously,so far China buys a lot oil and gas from Russia on the cheap ,
Military wise russia is falling behind technological advances on most fronts ,for the current exercise it's all bluster ,till China does something stupid in the south China sea and all hell breaks loose ,

11-09-2018 05:54PM

Second base is imminent.

Junkyard Tom · 11-09-2018 06:00PM

We could do with booting NATO out of Europe and forming a European defence force.

Atoms for Peace · 11-09-2018 06:06PM

mad muffin wrote: »

I have three Vostoks.

I couldn't give a Vostok.

Gatling · 11-09-2018 06:12PM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

We could do with booting NATO out of Europe and forming a European defence force.

So basically change to to the European defense treaty organisation .

Still would need American airpower for another decade till the rest of Europe rebuild their airforces for the future

Hector Bellend · 11-09-2018 06:14PM

Are they actually **** each other off in geopolitical terms?

Woke Hogan · 11-09-2018 06:23PM

Hector Bellend wrote: »

Are they actually **** each other off in geopolitical terms?

No they're not. The lads on this site seem to be under the impression that geopolitical maneuvers are like a Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles cartoon, where one supervillian joins forces with another to take over the world. It's laughable.

the purple tin · 11-09-2018 06:31PM

Gatling wrote: »

China and Russia have always been close but not always so they nearly went to war previously,so far China buys a lot oil and gas from Russia on the cheap ,
Military wise russia is falling behind technological advances on most fronts ,for the current exercise it's all bluster ,till China does something stupid in the south China sea and all hell breaks loose ,

Maybe with the whizzbangs but Russia and China are both ahead of US with EMP technology which can turn whizzbangs into expensive paperweights.

Cheerful Spring · 11-09-2018 06:46PM

Woke Hogan wrote: »

No they're not. The lads on this site seem to be under the impression that geopolitical maneuvers are like a Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles cartoon, where one supervillian joins forces with another to take over the world. It's laughable.

That's how the world really works. Just because you can buy a hamburger and nice tv and stuff do not mean the world is not run by sinister people. Look at Syria you can see different worlds powers are fighting for control over territory in the middle east.

We in the west supply head choppers with weapons and then when a terrorist attack happens we say isn't that awful they are attacking us. But if they so evil why are we supplying them weapons to overthrow governments? Headchopper friend one day and enemy the next day.

Do you think Russia parked a few dozen warships off the US coast the united states would not react? If the fine for Ancient Rome part 2 to sail its warships near other countries coasts and construct bases near other countries borders.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-09-2018 06:47PM

No idea whay they need 300,000 or so wee men when they (supposedly) have some new robocop “controlled bipedal walker”
by the way of a 13ft golden 4.5tonne anthropomorphic walker (nothing in the news suggests it can actully walk as of yet).

Surprised NK hasn't joined in the drink-fest.

Your Face · 11-09-2018 07:00PM

Not a big deal in terms of joint manoeuvres.

archer22 · 11-09-2018 07:10PM

the purple tin wrote: »

Maybe with the whizzbangs but Russia and China are both ahead of US with EMP technology which can turn whizzbangs into expensive paperweights.

Also ahead with hyper sonic anti ship missiles which can turn America's much vaunted carrier groups into new reefs.

Ten of Swords · 11-09-2018 07:39PM

China has not participated in a war since the 1970s. Part of the reason for their involvement in these war games is to learn combat lessons from Russia, particularly recent conflicts in Syria etc.

The other reasons are strengthening military ties and ensuring there is no distrust which would likely occur if China were excluded from Russia's biggest ever war games which are occurring just over the border.

https://m.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2161909/vostok-2018-war-games-chinas-chance-learn-russias

China and Russia are not particularly good friends and a number of diplomatic incidents in their past mean each views the other with a certain degree of mistrust, I think panicking about an alliance is a bit premature!

Odhinn · 11-09-2018 07:40PM

manual_man wrote: »

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"Mr Putin and Mr Xi are said to get along well too - in June, the Chinese leader called his Russian counterpart his "best, most intimate friend"."

. . . . . . . .

All taken from BBC.

I dunno about you guys, but I'm concerned what might happen next.

Discuss

Hot sex, from the sounds of it.

Gatling · 11-09-2018 07:52PM

archer22 wrote: »

Also ahead with hyper sonic anti ship missiles which can turn America's much vaunted carrier groups into new reefs.

Not really no .

hypothetically it's been claimed but we've had Russia make similar claims on various weapons systems over the last 50 years ,a bit like there new Pak 50 stealth fighter that couldn't fly fast and wasn't stealth ,
We know China weapons are clones of other countries technology but no proof any of it actually works in a combat environment ,
Unlike western nations fighting in combat zones over the last near two decades.

archer22 · 11-09-2018 08:48PM

Gatling wrote: »

Not really no .

hypothetically it's been claimed but we've had Russia make similar claims on various weapons systems over the last 50 years ,a bit like there new Pak 50 stealth fighter that couldn't fly fast and wasn't stealth ,
We know China weapons are clones of other countries technology but no proof any of it actually works in a combat environment ,
Unlike western nations fighting in combat zones over the last near two decades.

You might not feel so confident if you were standing on the deck of a US carrier when you hear that DF-21-D launches have just been detected on the Chinese mainland

Jim Bob Scratcher · 11-09-2018 08:57PM

Odhinn wrote: »

Hot sex, from the sounds of it.

Which one has the black willy though? :pac:

12-09-2018 09:50AM

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

We supply head choppers with weapons and then when a terrorist attack happens we say isn't that awful they are attacking us. But if they so evil why are we supplying them weapons to overthrow governments?

What's this "we" business?

Billy86 · 12-09-2018 09:53AM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Especially with Trump in charge. If you ever wanted to build a strong and combine forces against a superpower, now's the time to do it.

To be honest though, I don't see why Putin would declare war on his own underling?

Sal Butamol · 12-09-2018 10:37AM

Billy86 wrote: »

To be honest though, I don't see why Putin would declare war on his own underling?

Funny how the underling, as you put it, has slapped Russia with more sanctions than ever.

Odd you might even say

So... Russia and China are getting friendly

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