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Bedding alternatives to Straw.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭adne


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Get bord n.a. Mona to deliver up peat

    Any one using it. Do you find it good.
    How much it costing?
    Any issues spreading it after with a side slung spreader


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,991 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    There was a thread on this recently. Maybe someone can bump it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,991 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Bumping this up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    We will be tucking into maize next week.
    I was thinking of putting on the cereals header and big square baling the straw.
    Would there be a market for maize straw?
    Would the transport subsidy cover it?
    What value per ton?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I use it. Costs me about €140 odd a year. I fill a 15ft x 20ft shed 4 times a year. No bother firing it out of a muck spreader either. Just remember it swells with moisture so of you put in 6in then it'll be 9in when cleaning out. Bedding should last roughly 6 to 8 weeks depending on stocking rate on it


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,621 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Mod note: I've merged a new thread on alternatives to straw bedding with this older one.


    Buford T. Justice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Mod note: I've merged a new thread on alternatives to straw bedding with this older one.


    Buford T. Justice

    Damn you. Wrote s big reply and it wouldn't post. It's all your fault


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,621 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Damn you. Wrote s big reply and it wouldn't post. It's all your fault
    VCh7z8tnv54u.gif
    :p
    Sorry Reggie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    VCh7z8tnv54u.gif
    :p
    Sorry Reggie

    Tramp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    As is said in other forums about peat.

    Make sure the animals are vaccinated for Blackleg first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    We will be tucking into maize next week.
    I was thinking of putting on the cereals header and big square baling the straw.
    Would there be a market for maize straw?
    Would the transport subsidy cover it?
    What value per ton?

    Have you used it for bedding over? What would the feed value be. Traditionally here would use wheaten for feeding and barley for bedding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    Is it right stripping bogs for bedding, bad enough for electricity! I'll get off my high horse now..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Is it right stripping bogs for bedding, bad enough for electricity! I'll get off my high horse now..

    From a carbon point of view (and probably wildlife) it should be left where it is.

    But sure real world and economics starts interfering.
    What'll really mess your head is that BnM are investigating turning this safe secure carbon in the bogs. Pyrolysing it for energy and turning it into biochar and trying to figure out how the hell to make it into a marketable fertilizer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Mooooo wrote: »
    Have you used it for bedding over? What would the feed value be. Traditionally here would use wheaten for feeding and barley for bedding

    Never used it Moo.
    No feed value whatsoever because it’s specifically for grain harvest and thus it’d be very high in lignin so animals won’t eat it. It’d be solely for bedding.

    I was only throwing it out there as an option...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    As is said in other forums about peat.

    Make sure the animals are vaccinated for Blackleg first.

    So that was you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Is it right stripping bogs for bedding, bad enough for electricity! I'll get off my high horse now..

    Probably not but with the power stations going non peat fired shortly it should slow the stripping a good bit but the gardening industry uses far more peat than agri


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Reggie. wrote: »
    So that was you

    I've read. Not posted.
    Boards the one and only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I've read. Not posted.
    Boards the one and only.

    Yeah yeah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,061 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Here's what BnM is currently investigating.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/PeatDit

    Seems to be that it might be marketed as a bedding or a lagoon cover.
    All for the greater good in Irish farming. :pac:

    It's a better prospect to leave that peat in situ and use a renewable growing biomass that is actually taking in carbon than one which took down carbon thousands of years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭adne


    Reggie. wrote: »
    I use it. Costs me about €140 odd a year. I fill a 15ft x 20ft shed 4 times a year. No bother firing it out of a muck spreader either. Just remember it swells with moisture so of you put in 6in then it'll be 9in when cleaning out. Bedding should last roughly 6 to 8 weeks depending on stocking rate on it

    140 odd a year seems too cheap for filling a 15ftx20ft shed 4 times a year.
    What am I missing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    adne wrote: »
    140 odd a year seems too cheap for filling a 15ftx20ft shed 4 times a year.
    What am I missing?

    Only takes about 3m3 at most to fill it each time. It cost around €12 a m3 last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭jimini0


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Only takes about 3m3 at most to fill it each time. It cost around €12 a m3 last year

    I'm goin taking your advice and getting peat instead of straw. Do you just leave the fresh cow muck on it or do you clean the fresh sh1t out daily?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    jimini0 wrote: »
    I'm goin taking your advice and getting peat instead of straw. Do you just leave the fresh cow muck on it or do you clean the fresh sh1t out daily?

    The cattle mix it up for ya. I put it in and don't touch it for 5 or 6 weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭jimini0


    Reggie. wrote: »
    The cattle mix it up for ya. I put it in and don't touch it for 5 or 6 weeks

    I'm sold. I can only get it in tonne bags locally. How much area would each bag cover? At 6inch deep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    jimini0 wrote: »
    I'm sold. I can only get it in tonne bags locally. How much area would each bag cover? At 6inch deep

    3m3 or there abouts does my 15 x 20 bay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭Odelay


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    Is it right stripping bogs for bedding, bad enough for electricity! I'll get off my high horse now..

    They are buying product normally used for bedding to burn instead of peat, and selling peat to use as bedding. Crazy stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭notsobusy


    What about Miscanthus? The husband is going spare at no straw. He's afraid of peat. So what about Miscanthus? I've used it for horses and it's great. If it was put under cows would it be ok? We also scrape into a lagoon, would the miscanthus break down into the lagoon like the straw?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭manjou


    notsobusy wrote: »
    What about Miscanthus? The husband is going spare at no straw. He's afraid of peat. So what about Miscanthus? I've used it for horses and it's great. If it was put under cows would it be ok? We also scrape into a lagoon, would the miscanthus break down into the lagoon like the straw?
    used some last year as a trial worked better than straw as lasted longer better soakage. Bought it in chopped and that's all I'm using this year. If buying bales you need a,chopper.Think it is good and won't be going back to straw .Don't know how compared to peat as cant normally use in organics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,888 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    notsobusy wrote: »
    What about Miscanthus? The husband is going spare at no straw. He's afraid of peat. So what about Miscanthus? I've used it for horses and it's great. If it was put under cows would it be ok? We also scrape into a lagoon, would the miscanthus break down into the lagoon like the straw?

    Why is he afraid of peat?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,041 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Why is he afraid of peat?
    Too dusty for horses which could cause breathing difficulties.


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