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Serena's meltdown

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  • #302
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,668 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Serena didn't back down and carried herself with class.

    Nor did she force anyone else to back down. They retained their dignity throughout. As did her very gracious opponent.


  • #303
    lertsnim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,916 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    HappyAsLarE wrote: »
    How did a black woman become so wealthy in our white patriarchal society?!

    Racism and sexism clearly is responsible for her and her sister making millions. The poor things.


  • #304
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Serena didn't back down and carried herself with class.

    The thing that most posters don't seem to be aware of is that all of the top male players have behaved in such a manner and not been penalised. Can see Serena's point when you take that into consideration.


  • #305
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,116 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    HappyAsLarE wrote: »
    How did a black woman become so wealthy in our white patriarchal society?!

    Because you're either good at sport or not - discrimination, prejudice, and whatnot, has less of an impact on outcomes.


  • #306
    AidoEirE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Serena didn't back down and carried herself with class.

    Think youv'e mistaken Serena for Osaka


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  • #307
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Serena didn't back down and carried herself with class.

    Ah, another JohnPatrick81 joins us.


  • #308
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    batgoat wrote: »
    The thing that most posters don't seem to be aware of is that all of the top male players have behaved in such a manner and not been penalised. Can see Serena's point when you take that into consideration.

    nope.........that isn't true.


  • #309
    Alpha_zero
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    AidoEirE wrote: »
    Think youv'e mistaken Serena for Osaka

    What you mean by that?


  • #310
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Serena didn't back down and carried herself with class.

    Whatever about the umpire being right or wrong, sexist or not, to say the Serena carried herself with class is nothing short of delusional.


  • #311
    Hammer Archer
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,553 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    and who says she has to a role model for anyone.
    She does. Fairly regularly.

    Serena has regularly received preferential treatment over other women. Most recently she was seeded for Wimbledon despite the fact that her world ranking didn't merit one. This meant that the 32nd ranked player in the world missed out on being seeded despite actually deserving it. Had they not done so, the sexist card would have most certainly have been pulled again.


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  • #312
    HappyAsLarE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    Junkyard Tom wrote: »
    Because you're either good at sport or not - discrimination, prejudice, and whatnot, has less of an impact on outcomes.

    I am shocked. Here was me believing I was oppressing Serena for years.


  • #313
    squawker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    Ah, another JohnPatrick81 joins us.

    aye, sitting at home with sweaty palms waiting for the next eejit to get suckered by their sad trolling attempts


  • #314
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Whatever about the umpire being right or wrong, sexist or not, to say the Serena carried herself with class is nothing short of delusional.

    I wouldn't bother replying to these clearly provocative posts looking for negative reactions.


  • #315
    Gone Drinking
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Gone Drinking


    What a load of horsesiht, this is the reason no one respects feminists. They're just assholes.


  • #316
    AidoEirE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    What you mean by that?

    Out of the two players on the court, Serna was second class in both cases.


  • #317
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Serena didn't back down and carried herself with class.

    Rightly or wrongly, she carried herself with the same 'class' as lots of other great sportspeople, for whom "show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser" seems to be an important mantra.


  • #318
    Alpha_zero
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Alpha_zero


    AidoEirE wrote: »
    Out of the two players on the court, Serna was second class in both cases.

    Serena comported herself with dignity and class in this situation, a line was crossed and she didn't back down.


  • #319
    erica74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭erica74


    batgoat wrote: »
    The thing that most posters don't seem to be aware of is that all of the top male players have behaved in such a manner and not been penalised. Can see Serena's point when you take that into consideration.

    I'm not a huge tennis fan but you seem to know off the top of your head that all of the top male players have behaved the same as Serena did in that match - could you post some links to videos or articles about those players?
    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    She shouldn't be allowed to compete. Just look at her, she's half man from all the testosterone injections. Look at her facial features and tell me that's a woman. Clear signs of extreme testosterone levels in a woman to the point of changing into a man. Men aren't allowed to compete in woman's competition.

    Can you not debate the topic at hand without turning to insults and nonsense?


  • #320
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,024 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Alpha_zero wrote: »
    Serena comported herself with dignity and class in this situation, a line was crossed and she didn't back down.

    Screaming insults at an official and crying is classy now?


  • #321
    squawker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    erica74 wrote: »
    I'm not a huge tennis fan but you seem to know off the top of your head that all of the top male players have behaved the same as Serena did in that match - could you post some links to videos or articles about those players?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/11821604/Nick-Kyrgios-handed-one-month-suspended-ban-and-further-fine-for-Stan-Wawrinka-sledge.html

    http://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/20548685/us-open-how-fines-bad-behavior-fabio-fognini-good-tennis

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/06/wimbledon-hands-one-biggest-fines-history-tournament-sees-worst/

    do you require anymore?


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  • #322
    BeerWolf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Lost a lot of respect for this woman, an incredibly successful person who felt the need to use a victim card.

    Would be saying how pathetic it was if I weren't so shocked by it.

    ****ing horrible people to act that way towards Osaka.


  • #323
    johnpatrick81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭johnpatrick81


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Did you post any of your opinions in the Tennis forum?

    Did you go to mass today?

    Random pointless question time is it?


  • #324
    Pauliedragon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    What I find the most annoying about this is the fact she had time to calm down and still couldn't understand she was completely. That brings the arrogance to whole new level. She geniunely believes she owns tennis. Also watch she'll get her way, that umpire will never do a match with her again.


  • #325
    john123470
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭john123470


    [font=FranklinITCProLight, HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue Light", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif]It was tragic that Ms Osaka was made to feel so bad she had to apologise for winning and that all the attention went to a sore loser. ''Its not the result that WE wanted'' indeed. [/font]
    [font=FranklinITCProLight, HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue Light", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif]HTF is that sportsmanlike !!!  Self entitled brat. [/font]
    [font=FranklinITCProLight, HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue Light", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif]That was the greatest tragedy of this tennis match. [/font]

    [font=FranklinITCProLight, HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue Light", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif]The other was that such a great champion as Serena Williams had to end such an incredible career in such a knacker way. She needs counselling to sort out her ego. Its just a game. [/font]

    [font=FranklinITCProLight, HelveticaNeue, "Helvetica Neue Light", "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, "Lucida Grande", sans-serif]After all the great fortune that tennis has bestowed upon her, she should have jumped the net and embraced the Japanese woman with an outburst of joy and genuine warmth that someone else was sharing in that.  But no - Its all ME ME ME (too) these days. [/font]


    [font=FranklinITCProLight, HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif]Old dinosaur - move over.  You really tossed your toys out the pram on this one.  One fears for her daughter .. what if perhaps theres just 1 nappy too many to change on a bad hair day.  Yikers !![/font]


  • #326
    squawker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭squawker


    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    She geniunely believes she owns tennis. Also watch she'll get her way, that umpire will never do a match with her again.

    its the beginning of the end for Serena

    too many other young hungry players on the horizon

    pity that she added this debacle to her legacy


    but then again if she had to hold her hands up and apologize when the red mist lifted, this would not be such an issue today


  • #327
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Not the first time her opponents have left the court in tears. She's been a bully on the courts for many years, full of dislikable gamesmanship and used to getting her own way. Well past time to retire and let a younger generation a place in the sun.


  • #328
    per aspera ad astra
    Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭per aspera ad astra


    The world is becoming desperately polarised. They're winning – whoever they are. Soon there will be a war, man versus woman. Fools. That's what they want – whoever they are. Don't you realise we already are all the same? Do you not have mothers and fathers, brothers and sisters? Are we really so far apart? Are 50% of all people really your enemy? Fools. They're trying to divide us, men and woman. Trying to make us hate each-other – but I'm on to them, and they won't infect me. We are all the same, even with our differences, even if you can't see it. We've evolved, loved and lived together for billions of years – are we really enemies? Or are we just two halves that equal one?


  • #329
    erica74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭erica74


    'I'm crying and she's crying and I'm not sure if those are happy tears,' Williams said after the match. 'I was thinking this definitely wasn't how I felt when I won my first grand slam.'

    Because when you won your first grand slam, the other player accepted defeat with some dignity and allowed you to enjoy your moment.
    At one point Williams even took the microphone and asked the crowd to stop booing.

    'I know you guys were here rooting and I was rooting too but let's make this the best moment we can,' she said.

    The ego.

    She said some other vomit inducing nonsense about being a "strong woman" as further defence of her actions.


  • #330
    alchemist33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    erica74 wrote: »
    Because when you won your first grand slam, the other player accepted defeat with some dignity and allowed you to enjoy your moment.



    The ego.

    She said some other vomit inducing nonsense about being a "strong woman" as further defence of her actions.

    And she's a mother. The mens' final tonight should really be decided by who has the most children


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  • #331
    erica74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭erica74


    squawker wrote: »
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/11821604/Nick-Kyrgios-handed-one-month-suspended-ban-and-further-fine-for-Stan-Wawrinka-sledge.html

    Not only was he fined, he was also suspended.
    squawker wrote: »
    http://www.espn.com/tennis/story/_/id/20548685/us-open-how-fines-bad-behavior-fabio-fognini-good-tennis

    Also fined and suspended.
    squawker wrote: »
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/06/wimbledon-hands-one-biggest-fines-history-tournament-sees-worst/

    Fined.
    squawker wrote: »
    do you require anymore?

    Well I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, all of those male players were fined and/or suspended, equal to or worse than how Serena was treated so it doesn't really back up Serena's point about sexism as that poster was claiming.


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