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Is anyone else starting to become a bit worried? mod note in first post

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    Whelo79 wrote: »
    You still have some questions to respond to before resuming posting in this forum as per MOD's instruction. Good lad.
    ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    hots wrote: »
    ...

    Please see below
    LoLth wrote: »
    mod note:
    I really want to accommodate both side of discussion in this forum as I believe it is healthy to question, even things you believe wholeheartedly.

    JohnnyFlash, I've had words with you before about your conduct here. From this latest spurt of posting you have displayed some very "troll-like" posting traits, you are NOT discussing, you are soapboxing and deliberately misleading.

    Now, SMACL posted a response to your request for examples of viable organisations using blockchain technology. You have ignored that in favour of attacking another poster for daring to have an opinion that differs from your own.

    DO NOT POST HERE AGAIN UNTIL YOU HAVE ADRESSED SMACL'S POST THAT YOU CAN FIND HERE: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107838257&postcount=1755

    and discuss the contrarian point of view but drop the smart arse "I dont know much but...." . Its not helping the discussion at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    sexmag wrote: »
    Please see below

    Pfft. Ruining his tactic of ignoring the forum for a while until he thinks we've forgotten the last dribble of piss that escaped his mouth

    Exact same tactic as PPL in the past. Not inferring anything at all, just a crazy coincidence to be sure to be sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭hots


    sexmag wrote: »
    Please see below
    I was just highlighting it :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Yeah we should stick with cash. That's never used to buy drugs.
    sexmag wrote: »
    And 100% traceable aswell to ensure no one does anything shady with it:D

    In terms if traceability, while not perfect there are ways to do if both with cash and bitcoins (but it will likely get harder and harder with crypto as some coins are designed specifically to prevent it).

    In terms of use for illegal purposes, sure there are also bank transfers made for illegal purposes. It is obvious any mean of exchanging value can be used to support criminal activity; the question is more with which ones it is more proiminant, i.e. what is the proportion of dodgy dealings in cash exchanges, wire transfers, and crypto transactions?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭TallyRand


    Yeah we should stick with cash. That's never used to buy drugs.

    That’s a weak weak argument. It would be like comparing a gun with a kitchen knife, they can both kill!

    Cryptos near sole reason to exist seems to be dark web and speculators (punters) even though it’s manipulated to high degree by the few.

    It’s not a currency by conventional means and never will be either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    TallyRand wrote: »
    That’s a weak weak argument. It would be like comparing a gun with a kitchen knife, they can both kill!

    Cryptos near sole reason to exist seems to be dark web and speculators (punters) even though it’s manipulated to high degree by the few.

    It’s not a currency by conventional means and never will be either.

    Have you actually read anything in this thread?

    The amount of real word uses posted in this thread outweighs all the negative posts that say this will never work

    Volkswagen next year will be using IOTA, hotels during the world cup were accepting bitcoin,https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/9dgnqf/strip_club_accepting_cryptocurrencies/?utm_source=reddit-android a strip club accepting crypto, hell there's a cafe in dublin based solely on cryptocurrency

    Also the sole reason was not dark web, read up on satoshis vision before making claims like that.

    You argument is baseless and adds nothing to the debate/discussion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    grindle wrote: »
    Pfft. Ruining his tactic of ignoring the forum for a while until he thinks we've forgotten the last dribble of piss that escaped his mouth

    Exact same tactic as PPL in the past. Not inferring anything at all, just a crazy coincidence to be sure to be sure.

    Think you're a bit obsessed with me lad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    Think you're a bit obsessed with me lad.

    Ye're the main negative focal points on a sparsely populated forum, there's no obsession necessary when bringing up "It's all a scam!" viewpoints on this forum - you're literally one of two people whose name I'd remember because you're a relatively frequent poster in a forum with few users.

    The liquidity of positive vs negative viewpoints in this forum very closely resembles the liquidity of crypto - it's prone to sharp movements and ye two are like hawks on a downturn.

    I am also fiercely attracted to any man who's mad for the sesh so you've brought this upon yourself you sesh-demon you.
    Will.
    You.
    Marry.
    Me?

    Answers negative, positive or even unrelated answers on any other thread in any other boards.ie sub-forum will be considered an emphatic "YES!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭TallyRand


    sexmag wrote: »
    Have you actually read anything in this thread?

    The amount of real word uses posted in this thread outweighs all the negative posts that say this will never work

    Volkswagen next year will be using IOTA, hotels during the world cup were accepting bitcoin,https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/9dgnqf/strip_club_accepting_cryptocurrencies/?utm_source=reddit-android a strip club accepting crypto, hell there's a cafe in dublin based solely on cryptocurrency

    Also the sole reason was not dark web, read up on satoshis vision before making claims like that.

    You argument is baseless and adds nothing to the debate/discussion

    I’ll address some of your points, Satoshi's vision? Let me tell you one thing about “Satoshi” he has had a right touch and had of plenty of money I’d imagine that was his main vision.

    Volkswagen / iota, ironically iota isn’t even using block chain

    Hotels, a strip club and one cafe in Dublin accepted btc, not setting the world on fire for day to day use is it (more of a freeadvertising gimmick), when we see tesco, McDonalds, river island adapting I’ll be sure to acknowledge I’m wrong


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    TallyRand wrote: »
    I’ll address some of your points, Satoshi's vision? Let me tell you one thing about “Satoshi” he has had a right touch and had of plenty of money I’d imagine that was his main vision.

    Volkswagen / iota, ironically iota isn’t even using block chain

    Hotels, a strip club and one cafe in Dublin accepted btc, not setting the world on fire for day to day use is it (more of a freeadvertising gimmick), when we see tesco, McDonalds, river island adapting I’ll be sure to acknowledge I’m wrong

    I addressed your points, you responded with the same vage argument that I responded too,if you want to provide links and evidence to support your claim and I'll happily debate but if you want to throw in "I don't see it here so it's not working" then I'll be done debating with you

    Edit: however since you mentioned mcdonalds https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/mcdonalds-launches-maccoin-cryptocurrency-for-big-mac-50th-anniversary/ :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    sexmag wrote: »

    So McDonalds releases physical tokens which are essentially vouchers to redeem another burger when you buy one ... and this gets flagged as an exemple of use of crypto currencies?

    Do I get that right?!!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    TallyRand wrote: »
    Volkswagen / iota, ironically iota isn’t even using block chain

    Weak argument. IOTA is still a cryptocurrency and the difference between the DAG topology used in Tangle versus Blockchain is a technical one that basically just increases degree of connectivity. IOTA is still an immutable ledger of records using cryptography as the mechanism to detect tampering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    Bob24 wrote: »
    So McDonalds releases physical tokens which are essentially vouchers to redeem another burger when you buy one ... and this gets flagged as an exemple of use of crypto currencies?

    Do I get that right?!!

    I need to edit my quote, it was supposed to have a smiley as a tounge in cheek post:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    sexmag wrote: »
    I need to edit my quote, it was supposed to have a smiley as a tounge in cheek post:D

    Prime exemple of crypto fanboyism/clickbaitism though ... the guy who wrote the piece you linked to seems damn serious about it being a crypto currency and didn’t include that smiley face.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    I've been told I can be a cynical sort, so here's something to lighten the mood.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    smacl wrote: »
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    The dude is the vision I have of most canny crypto day traders. Men with greasy hair, unkempt beards, smoke copious amounts of jazz fags, spent most of their lives lounging around at home in bathrobes and posting online about lambos and coins going to the moon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Candles, candles everywhere.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭Autochange


    The dude is the vision I have of most canny crypto day traders. Men with greasy hair, unkempt beards, smoke copious amounts of jazz fags, spent most of their lives lounging around at home in bathrobes and posting online about lambos and coins going to the moon.

    While all of the rats get up a 6am for 12 hour days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    The dude is the vision I have of most canny crypto day traders. Men with greasy hair, unkempt beards, smoke copious amounts of jazz fags, spent most of their lives lounging around at home in bathrobes and posting online about lambos and coins going to the moon.

    For the first time in over a year I was talking to a relative who is quite wealthy,like 8 figures rich and surprisingly he told me he was invested in crypto when I brought it up, took me buy surprise as i thought the volatility of it isn't worth investment from the mega rich but nope he said he's still in,buying the dips and some are performing better than others but ultimately he's optimistic about crypto in the long run and has plans to integrate some in his business's, has a person whom he consults about coins as he doesn't have time to review them himself all the time.

    Was quite odd but he doesn't fit the description above thats for sure


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    What’s a rat? Never heard of the phrase before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    sexmag wrote: »
    has a person whom he consults about coins as he doesn't have time to review them himself all the time.

    I knew someone like that, shrewd business man but his speculative interest of choice was stamps. He too had an advisor who pointed him in the right direction to build up a strong investment portfolio of albums - that in the end turned out to be worth nothing like they both expected.

    Here's the thing I don't get with crypto currencies. In order to be a currency, items we pay with have to be trusted by those that use them and they have to be of a known value (within acceptable up/down exchange limits as with current coinage).

    How then can bitcoin etc ever be a currency when no one knows what value it will be worth tomorrow as it's up/down limits are unbounded?. How could we ever be in a position to set a price for anything under those conditions?

    It may be an attractive, high risk investment opportunity (like stamps, ming vases etc), but how can it be used as a currency in the everyday sense of being acceptable for use in daily transactions?

    I just don't get it......


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    It may be an attractive, high risk investment opportunity (like stamps, ming vases etc), but how can it be used as a currency in the everyday sense of being acceptable for use in daily transactions?

    It will take time, many iterations, and one or more highly stable coins for this to take place. I think comparing where we are today with where we'll end up is akin to comparing an Apple Newton to an iPhone. It is worth noting that the above transition took about 30 years, and that cryptocurrency is still very far from a mature technology. Bitcoin and crypto are about ten years old, I'd fully expect another ten years to pass before crypto is truly ubiquitous. Could be sooner, but I'm not hodling my breath ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭Autochange


    smacl wrote: »
    It will take time, many iterations, and one or more highly stable coins for this to take place. I think comparing where we are today with where we'll end up is akin to comparing an Apple Newton to an iPhone. It is worth noting that the above transition took about 30 years, and that cryptocurrency is still very far from a mature technology. Bitcoin and crypto are about ten years old, I'd fully expect another ten years to pass before crypto is truly ubiquitous. Could be sooner, but I'm not hodling my breath ;)

    Stop thinking about crypto as mainstream currency alternative. Think more about the use of blockchain for buisness and the IOT which we will see more and more of going forward.

    There is still a misunderstanding


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,904 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Autochange wrote: »
    Stop thinking about crypto as mainstream currency alternative. Think more about the use of blockchain for buisness and the IOT which we will see more and more of going forward.

    There is still a misunderstanding

    Not instead of, as well as. I'm well aware of both and think that other uses of blockchain will deliver value in advance of cryptocurrency. This doesn't mean that cryptocurrency won't ever become mainstream.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭Autochange


    smacl wrote: »
    Not instead of, as well as. I'm well aware of both and think that other uses of blockchain will deliver value in advance of cryptocurrency. This doesn't mean that cryptocurrency won't ever become mainstream.

    It won't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Autochange wrote: »
    While all of the rats get up a 6am for 12 hour days.

    Yes the "rats" get up each day, work hard, have meaningful relationships, families. When I make my investments I think about how it's going to look after my children's education and future.

    I'm an adult. Not an overgrown man child buying sh1tcoins, dreaming of lambos and masturbating all day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    sexmag wrote: »
    Was quite odd but he doesn't fit the description above thats for sure

    Out of everybody I know who's bought in only one fits his description (minus the jazz fags) and he is a classic NEET 4chan sperg.

    Out of the others we have:
    1 garda
    1 gym manager
    1 "luxury installation specialist"
    1 product owner
    1 owner of a large software company in NL
    1 tycoon's son
    1 craft beer offie owner
    4 or 5 web devs


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭Autochange


    Yes the "rats" get up each day, work hard, have meaningful relationships, families. When I make my investments I think about how it's going to look after my children's education and future.

    I'm an adult. Not an overgrown man child buying sh1tcoins, dreaming of lambos and masturbating all day.

    Woah. If you don't like your job you can change it


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