Help me on Drink Driving law 2018

Masala · 01-09-2018 02:37PM #1

Hi. Am trying to make sense of the googling I am doing on what is the new law and see how it applies to 1 glass of wine.

Drink aware advice that 1 x 100ml is equal to I x Standard drink. It further advises that that's equal to 9 grams of alcohol. But the legislation is based on 50ml per 100ml of blood.

So... how do I convert from the grams to ml to see what a glass of wine registers in a 100ml of blood

Sorry..... I never good on the new metric. I came through pints and quarts and miles and feet!!

Ps.... this is not a 'how many pints can I drink before getting caught by the guards' thread.

endacl · 01-09-2018 02:40PM

To many variables to give a standard answer.

Kevin Finnerty · 01-09-2018 02:41PM

I've one word to that whole barrage of words OP,

TIKKA!

lmimmfn · 01-09-2018 02:43PM

Thinly veiled 'how many pints can I drink before getting caught by the guards'

JackieChan · 01-09-2018 02:43PM

Masala wrote: »

Hi. Am trying to make sense of the googling I am doing on what is the new law and see how it applies to 1 glass of wine.

Drink aware advice that 1 x 100ml is equal to I x Standard drink. It further advises that that's equal to 9 grams of alcohol. But the legislation is based on 50ml per 100ml of blood.

So... how do I convert from the grams to ml to see what a glass of wine registers in a 100ml of blood

Sorry..... I never good on the new metric. I came through pints and quarts and miles and feet!!

Ps.... this is not a 'how many pints can I drink before getting caught by the guards' thread.

The amount of alcohol you would find in a persons blood will differ between people depending on age, sex, weight, when and what you last ate/drank, a long with many other factors. So while you can give a generalisation there is really too many factors to have any meaning.

Graces7 · 01-09-2018 02:45PM

JackieChan wrote: »

The amount of alcohol you would find in a persons blood will differ between people depending on age, sex, weight, when and what you last ate/drank, a long with many other factors. So while you can give a generalisation there is really too many factors to have any meaning.

So the only real answer is? Don't drink if you are driving. Easy enough?

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-09-2018 02:46PM

lmimmfn wrote: »

Thinly veiled 'how many pints can I drink before getting caught by the guards'

Why is it thinly veiled? That's exactly what people should know.

dan1895 · 01-09-2018 02:46PM

NEW metric system??

the beer revolu · 01-09-2018 03:15PM

Graces7 wrote: »

So the only real answer is? Don't drink if you are driving. Easy enough?

But for how long before driving?
2 hours? 12 hours, 24 hours?

Graces7 · 01-09-2018 03:54PM

the beer revolu wrote: »

But for how long before driving?
2 hours? 12 hours, 24 hours?

depends surely on your motivation. If you are seeking to avoid being caught by the Gardai when you are having a night out, or if you are genuinely concerned about the safety and welfare of other road users - which the laws are about.

drinking is not worth the hassle and dangers it brings.

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-09-2018 03:56PM

Graces7 wrote: »

depends surely on your motivation. If you are seeking to avoid being caught by the Gardai when you are having a night out, or if you are genuinely concerned about the safety and welfare of other road users - which the laws are about.

drinking is not worth the hassle and dangers it brings.

In the real world you still might need to be able to drive a car the next day after having a few drinks the night before and there's nothing wrong with knowing what your limits are.

Guy:Incognito · 01-09-2018 04:00PM

Patww79 wrote: »

Why is it thinly veiled? That's exactly what people should know.

Why bother risking anything for 1 glass of wine?

Can people really not manage to go without drink when they are driving?

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-09-2018 04:02PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Why bother risking anything for 1 glass of wine?

Can people really not manage to go without drink when they are driving?

I drive 99% of days. So I've two choices: never drink again for fear of being bagged the next day or aim to find out when I'm ok to drive the next day after a few.

the beer revolu · 01-09-2018 04:22PM

Patww79 wrote: »

I drive 99% of days. So I've two choices: never drink again for fear of being bagged the next day or aim to find out when I'm ok to drive the next day after a few.

This was really the point I was trying to make.
Time is always a factor.
Saying don't ever drink and drive can only apply to people who either don't drink or don't drive.

Nonoperational · 01-09-2018 04:25PM

Plenty of info about this online. Body eliminates approx 1 standard drink per hour. If you're a 40kg female that never drank it'll be less, if you're a 100kg alcoholic it'll be far more. For most people, have 4 pints between 8-11pm, drive at 7am should be fine.

the beer revolu · 01-09-2018 04:25PM

Graces7 wrote: »

So the only real answer is? Don't drink if you are driving. Easy enough?

OK.
I will be driving tomorrow afternoon. Do you think I can have alcohol today?

Masala · 01-09-2018 04:31PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Why bother risking anything for 1 glass of wine?

Can people really not manage to go without drink when they are driving?

That's the same as saying if you don't want points for speeding... then don't drive!! If you can drive to 80kph in a zone .. then you allowed to drive 79kph on that street and still be legal

It's not illegal to drink and drive ... otherwise the law would say 0% alcholol in the blood is the limit. The question is trying to equate 50mls to a glass of wine.

Balanadan · 01-09-2018 04:59PM

Gone are the good old days of about 5 years ago where you could go for a rake of pints and drive home. It's very much frowned upon these days, by much of society as well as law enforcement. A cultural shift, if you will.

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-09-2018 05:02PM

Balanadan wrote: »

Gone are the good old days of about 5 years ago where you could go for a rake of pints and drive home. It's very much frowned upon these days, by much of society as well as law enforcement. A cultural shift, if you will.

Yeah that's what everyone is saying.

Graces7 · 02-09-2018 07:03AM

Balanadan wrote: »

Gone are the good old days of about 5 years ago where you could go for a rake of pints and drive home. It's very much frowned upon these days, by much of society as well as law enforcement. A cultural shift, if you will.

and a good shift. As all of us who have lost loved ones to this scourge will attest.

This is not about legalism but about life and death, and about being responsible and accountable.

OldMrBrennan83 · 02-09-2018 07:28AM

Graces7 wrote: »

and a good shift. As all of us who have lost loved ones to this scourge will attest.

This is not about legalism but about life and death, and about being responsible and accountable.

You've answered nothing that has been asked in reply to you.

_Brian · 02-09-2018 07:34AM

Masala wrote: »

Hi. Am trying to make sense of the googling I am doing on what is the new law and see how it applies to 1 glass of wine.

Drink aware advice that 1 x 100ml is equal to I x Standard drink. It further advises that that's equal to 9 grams of alcohol. But the legislation is based on 50ml per 100ml of blood.

So... how do I convert from the grams to ml to see what a glass of wine registers in a 100ml of blood

Sorry..... I never good on the new metric. I came through pints and quarts and miles and feet!!

Ps.... this is not a 'how many pints can I drink before getting caught by the guards' thread.

I think it’s easier to use their standard unit idea as a guide.

So say a bottle of beer is a standard unit, the average male body eliminates 1 standard unit per hour.
So if you have four bottles of beer you should be clear after 4 hours.

Markcheese · 02-09-2018 08:02AM

Is a normal bottle of beer (330ml) a standard drink though?

average_runner · 02-09-2018 08:11AM

Standard rule is a bottle takes an hour. So if you have 5 drinks and stop at 11pm, you be easily ok the next day.

There is no definite rule per person so if in doubt dont drive. Quite simple.

_Brian · 02-09-2018 08:22AM

average_runner wrote: »

Standard rule is a bottle takes an hour. So if you have 5 drinks and stop at 11pm, you be easily ok the next day.

There is no definite rule per person so if in doubt dont drive. Quite simple.

Easily, remember your body is processing the first drink as your drinking away, it’s not like your having the five drinks all at once at 11pm

If you had your five drinks over three hours you’d be able to drive by 1am.

If you drank a bottle of beer every hour you’d essentially always be ready to drive within an hour of stopping.

Graces7 · 02-09-2018 09:09AM

Patww79 wrote: »

You've answered nothing that has been asked in reply to you.

Yes I know. The questions were imo not really worthy of answering and were already replied to more than adequately by other posters to whom I refer you .

I did also raise aspects that have been ignored

Not about to argue with you; others are dealing with the real aspects of this subject that is infinitely painful to so many folk .

Over and out from me.

Discodog · 02-09-2018 09:17AM

It's bit like saying you can't break the speed limit but not giving you a speedometer. The law needs to differentiate between those who accidentally go just over the limit & those who drink & don't care.

I would reduce the sentences, for being over the limit by up to 20% & treble the sentence for being 50% over.

thomasm · 02-09-2018 09:23AM

Buy a breathtlyser, I’ve was surprised a few mornings when I’ve used it at first and did not drive. However it then helps you know what you can drink and how long your body takes to process it out of your system and when you are safe to drive

Edward M · 02-09-2018 09:24AM

You could buy your own breathalyser and check yourself if you wanted to be certain.
Just a note, I went to the local shop the other night at about 8:30, a mile from home, came on a checkpoint and was breathalysed, had no drink in, but I have often gone after a couple thinking I was ok, just down the road, who knows if I had a couple of cans what could be the result?

cbyrd · 02-09-2018 09:41AM

Patww79 wrote:

In the real world you still might need to be able to drive a car the next day after having a few drinks the night before and there's nothing wrong with knowing what your limits are.

The rule of thumb to be sure is one hour per drink from when you stop drinking. So if you've have seven drinks, stop at 11pm, then you should be fine by 6am. This is to cover differences in sex, weight, height, food intake and tolerance.
It's the one I always followed.

Seth Brundle · 02-09-2018 09:58AM

Discodog wrote: »

It's bit like saying you can't break the speed limit but not giving you a speedometer. The law needs to differentiate between those who accidentally go just over the limit & those who drink & don't care.

I would reduce the sentences, for being over the limit by up to 20% & treble the sentence for being 50% over.

The government want to reinforce the message that no alcohol is ok if you're driving. Whilst there needs to be a small allowance to overcome accidental consumption e.g. mouthwash they should not encourage consumption by saying that there are different degrees of unacceptability

Help me on Drink Driving law 2018

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