Two time zones in Ireland after Brexit

El_Duderino 09 · 01-09-2018 12:02PM

cfuserkildare wrote: »

As someone else commented on a different post,

They must have solved all the immigration problems and all the other issues we are facing if there is Time to concern themselves with Clocks!!!

Yeah, that’s how it should work. Allow all the other issues to stack up until enormous issue of immigration is resolved. What’s next? Solve climate change?

timthumbni · 01-09-2018 12:02PM

Feck there is some stuck up people from the republic. 80 years ahead, 300 years ahead of some in NI, etc etc.

From a nation who were basically ran by an international gang of paedophiles youse have some nerve on ye. Anyways you will do whatever the EU tell you to do, even if it isn’t good for you. And if you say no, then the Eu will tell you to go away and think and come back and say yes. And you will do.

timthumbni · 01-09-2018 12:03PM

Anyways I thought the whole idea of the clocks going back or whatever is so as kids aren’t walking to school in darkness.

joeysoap · 01-09-2018 12:05PM

Open the schools later.

nice_guy80 · 01-09-2018 12:07PM

joeysoap wrote: »

Open the schools later.

Or earlier

El_Duderino 09 · 01-09-2018 12:08PM

timthumbni wrote: »

Anyways I thought the whole idea of the clocks going back or whatever is so as kids aren’t walking to school in darkness.

Ha! It was introduced in 1916 to reserve coal during the First World War. Where people get this notion that it’s to do with children walking to school, I’ll never know.

The kits I see walking to school are 1 accompanied be an adult
2 wearing high vis vests
3 old enough to walk on a road by themselves

So I see absolutely no problem with kids walking in the dark. They walk in the dark in the evenings in winter and they don’t explode, or whatever people worry will happen if they walk to school in the morning in the dark/twilight.

nim1bdeh38l2cw · 01-09-2018 12:12PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

After hearing the news yesterday that the EU are planning to scrap the twice yearly changing of the clock, could it be possible that we could be faced with a situation where there will be two different time zones in Ireland. The UK may elect to stay with the system of daylight saving time which will mean that we will be either an hour ahead or behind Northern Ireland. This is hardly going to work?

There are two different time zones in Iberia, 9 of them in the US. Works fine...

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-09-2018 12:15PM

joeysoap wrote: »

Open the schools later.

Yes. In jan or dec would make sense.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 01-09-2018 12:16PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Ha! It was introduced in 1916 to reserve coal during the First World War. Where people get this notion that it’s to do with children walking to school, I’ll never know.

The kits I see walking to school are 1 accompanied be an adult
2 wearing high vis vests
3 old enough to walk on a road by themselves

So I see absolutely no problem with kids walking in the dark. They walk in the dark in the evenings in winter and they don’t explode, or whatever people worry will happen if they walk to school in the morning in the dark/twilight.

He’s talking about the change back to winter time, I think. However I agree, no big deal about the schools.

jacksie66 · 01-09-2018 12:21PM

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Badly Drunk Boy · 01-09-2018 01:44PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The UK may elect to stay with the system of daylight saving time which will mean that we will be either an hour ahead or behind Northern Ireland. This is hardly going to work?

The UK want to be in the European Union without being in the European Union. They'll do what we do ('we' meaning the rest of Europe).

With any talk of of time-zones, I like to include this, from the late 80s when the USA had 4 time zones but the USSR had 11. Yes, 11. (The embedded Youtube thing doesn't seem to work so I've added the link.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDmWYVdN8ug

Signore Fancy Pants · 01-09-2018 01:47PM

You're ma's so fat, she lives in 2 time zones.

hognef · 01-09-2018 01:51PM

Given the amount of US investment in Ireland, I suspect a source of concern for Ireland would be the increased time difference between here and the US for half of each year.

dxhound2005 · 01-09-2018 01:56PM

hognef wrote: »

Given the amount of US investment in Ireland, I suspect a source of concern for Ireland would be the increased time difference between here and the US for half of each year.

Not much of an issue. It already happens each year for a few weeks because America and Europe change their clocks on different dates.

The houses which are built on the border here will have different times in different rooms.

hognef · 01-09-2018 02:05PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Not much of an issue. It already happens each year for a few weeks because America and Europe change their clocks on different dates.

The houses which are built on the border here will have different times in different rooms.

March to October is different from a few weeks.

Any house straddling the border will have the timezone of whichever country it officially belongs to.

dxhound2005 · 01-09-2018 02:07PM

hognef wrote: »

March to October is different from a few weeks.

Lots of US states have more than one time zone, and their mainland has four time zones. I'm sure they could cope.

hognef · 01-09-2018 02:10PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Lots of US states have more than one time zone, and their mainland has four time zones. I'm sure they could cope.

And indeed they do, but normally they cope with maximum 1 hour difference. The 3 hours between the east and west coasts does already cause issues; a six hour difference between an office in Ireland and an office in the US will cause more issue, due to the even shorter overlap.

dxhound2005 · 01-09-2018 02:11PM

hognef wrote: »

Any house straddling the border will have the timezone of whichever country it officially belongs to.

I know people with farms straddling the border. Their properties would have to be with two different land registries. So two adjoining fields would be in two time zones.

hognef · 01-09-2018 02:13PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I know people with farms straddling the border. Their properties would have to be with two different land registries. So two adjoining fields would be in two time zones.

What would be the practical issues arising from that?

johnnyryan89 · 01-09-2018 02:13PM

joeysoap wrote: »

Here’s a funny one. Arizona doesn’t change the hour from to summer to winter and vice versa.

And haven’t for the last 10 years.

Arizona's time zone is Mountain Standard Time (MST). In the Greater Phoenix area we never change our clocks, since Arizona does not participate in Daylight Saving Time.

Arizona is weird because you've also got the native American reservations with the main one being the Navajo who observe daylight saving time so use Mountain Daylight Time but there's places inside the Navajo reservation, most notably the Hopi reservation that don't observe daylight saving time so use the MST like the rest of Arizona.

Think there was a video on YouTube that if you drive across the state of Arizona you'd end up changing your clock backwards and forwards something like 7, 8 or 9 times I think.

dxhound2005 · 01-09-2018 02:13PM

hognef wrote: »

And indeed they do, but normally they cope with maximum 1 hour difference. The 3 hours between the east and west coasts does already cause issues; a six hour difference between an office in Ireland and an office in the US will cause more issue, due to the even shorter overlap.

What does "issues" mean?

Dr. Bre · 01-09-2018 02:14PM

Already two time zones on this island - Dublin in the present Belfast in the past

hognef · 01-09-2018 02:23PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

What does "issues" mean?

Difficulties scheduling meetings involving attendees from different timezones.

With a six hour timezone difference (to the US east coast), the overlap remaining is 2 hours, within which all meetings requiring attendees from the two locations will need to happen.

One of Ireland's advantages over the likes of India and even Poland (in the context of US investment) is precisely the fact that there is a reasonable amount of overlap.

Not saying it's the overriding factor, but it's a factor nevertheless.

PowerToWait · 01-09-2018 04:52PM

Sardine wrote: »

Who cares? It’s a kip. I hate being reminded it even exists.

I'll wager you've never been further north than Skerries and know not one Nordie.

yrreg0850 · 01-09-2018 04:55PM

Why do we have to take dictation from the mandrins in Brussles.
You can be sure Theresa may will not take any nonsence from our masters.

Surely it is in our own interest to have the same time zone as the north.

Yer Da sells Avon · 01-09-2018 05:03PM

We should put the clocks back one hour every morning and then forward again every evening, thus ensuring brighter mornings and evenings.

01-09-2018 07:58PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah, that’s how it should work. Allow all the other issues to stack up until enormous issue of immigration is resolved. What’s next? Solve climate change?

Is DST an issue then? I would have put it firmly in th “quirk” category myself.

Infini · 01-09-2018 08:36PM

Honestly I would prefer they just get rid of Summer Time and just leave the clock's unchanged on GMT. Midday/Midnight should actually mean that and not be an hour ahead of what it actually is. If mainland Europe wants to be 1hr ahead all year round that's fine by me but not here.

indioblack · 01-09-2018 08:48PM

artanevilla wrote: »

We are about 80 years ahead of the six already sure.

Will the clocks be going forward by that much?

n97 mini · 01-09-2018 09:36PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Lots of US states have more than one time zone, and their mainland has four time zones. I'm sure they could cope.

There's only one state, Arizona, which doesn't observe DST. As a result half the year it's an hour different to the state directly north of it, Utah. Having spent time in both, it is a minor pain in the hole, but a pain in the hole no less.

Two time zones in Ireland after Brexit

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