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Luas drivers and their lunch

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    I'm going to ask a really dumb question now - what do the morons at SIPTU actually want ?

    Better cool bags ? Taxis to the greasy spoon of the driver's choice ? Deliveroo from Marco Pierre White's gaff on Dawson Street ????

    My lunch is in a plazzy bag under the desk. Striking over that ? Knobheads.

    If you're a spare minute - Google the union shop steward from Carry On At Your Convenience. That's SIPTU et al.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    I'm going to ask a really dumb question now - what do the morons at SIPTU actually want ?

    Apparently they want extra drivers hired (at a cost of 200000 I think I heard on the news) so the other ones can travel to wherever it is they want to have lunch....


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Pedro K wrote: »
    There will be people on this thread, soon enough, that will defend this to the hilt, as they defend, and often support, any industrial action, no matter how ridiculous it is.

    Actually. Nbru haven't striked over lunches. This is a shot in the foot of those that argue privatizing will reduce the impact of strikes by Dublin bus and Irish rail. As they've nothing to do with this.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Surely that's a pisstake? My lunch AND my dinner (will be working a very long shift today) are sitting right beside me here, in cooler bags.
    But then, I'm just an ordinary, university-educated person in a business-critical position in a private company, not someone who walked in off the street into a public service-type of job.

    Luas is operated privately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    Actually. Nbru haven't striked over lunches. This is a shot in the foot of those that argue privatizing will reduce the impact of strikes by Dublin bus and Irish rail. As they've nothing to do with this.

    Eh. Ok. Don't know why you quoted me though. I didn't mention NBRU. Just said that there are some people who will defend any industrial action, no matter how ridiculous.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Pedro K wrote: »
    Eh. Ok. Don't know why you quoted me though. I didn't mention NBRU. Just said that there are some people who will defend any union or industrial action, no matter how ridiculous.

    Nbru are the ones that get a lot of bad press regarding Dublin bus and Irish rail strikes. Those you said who'll defend it, primarily spoke up about those issues. This lunch box debacle has nothing to do with them. But the NBRU seem to be the posterboys for union discontent. So I reckoned was important to relate your remarks to their lack of involvement. Its not public service or a public service union pushing this dispute.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,424 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    OSI wrote: »
    words

    They aren't though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    wexie wrote: »
    Apparently they want extra drivers hired (at a cost of 200000 I think I heard on the news) so the other ones can travel to wherever it is they want to have lunch....

    So not for passengers ? (Veal like again on the red line today).

    Mad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,256 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    I'm going to ask a really dumb question now - what do the morons at SIPTU actually want ?

    Better cool bags ? Taxis to the greasy spoon of the driver's choice ? Deliveroo from Marco Pierre White's gaff on Dawson Street ????

    My lunch is in a plazzy bag under the desk. Striking over that ? Knobheads.

    If you're a spare minute - Google the union shop steward from Carry On At Your Convenience. That's SIPTU et al.

    think they are using it as an excuse to get 5 new drivers. Which would mean less work for everyone (at the same pay of course) and the drivers won't , god forbid, have to carry their lunches with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Keyzer wrote: »
    Sooner the better, we drastically need robots to replace these moaning gits.

    Maybe we could make them into Cybermen!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Luas is operated privately.

    That's why I said "public service-type", not public service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭yesto24


    Shenshen wrote: »
    That's why I said "public service-type", not public service.

    Ah yes.
    But don't you know because it could be interpreted a way that is wrong, it means everything else you said is wrong.
    You entire post and all points in it can be dismissed and that means the drivers are right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭Kat1170


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Surely that's a pisstake? My lunch AND my dinner (will be working a very long shift today) are sitting right beside me here, in cooler bags.
    But then, I'm just an ordinary, university-educated person in a business-critical position in a private company, not someone who walked in off the street into a public service-type of job.


    Public service type job ????? WTF are you on about. Its a private company, just the same as the one you claim to work for. What's wrong ? 'Front Line Customer Support Facilitator' not quite the title you thought you thought your University education would drop in your lap :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,741 ✭✭✭Effects


    Kat1170 wrote: »
    Public service type job ????? WTF are you on about.:

    I presume it means like public servants who aren't that highly educated, in secure jobs, that expect pay and conditions far above what the average worker gets or is reasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    im assuming these scum bags want more pay! They are already massively over paid! See this is the problem when one side is a business, that has to be seen as getting "value" or doing something for its members, no matter how ludicrous. Imagine the pay these people with no qualifications would be on , if they didnt have their golden Luas job, its comedy! They know where the door to a likely fifty percent pay reduction is, if they dont like pushing a single level forwards and backwards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    wexie wrote: »
    Apparently they want extra drivers hired (at a cost of 200000 I think I heard on the news) so the other ones can travel to wherever it is they want to have lunch....

    Doubt that's what they actually want - I'd be 99% certain that the desired outcome is to 'settle' with a 'disturbance' payoff to the current drivers (i.e. a pay rise). Union negotiations 101.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I don't know how they could file this grievance and not feel embarrassed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Kat1170 wrote: »
    Public service type job ????? WTF are you on about. Its a private company, just the same as the one you claim to work for. What's wrong ? 'Front Line Customer Support Facilitator' not quite the title you thought you thought your University education would drop in your lap :pac::pac::pac:

    Business Systems Automation, sweetheart - and a privately operated public service remains a public service. Particularly a monopoly type one like the Luas.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Business Systems Automation, sweetheart - a privately operated public service remains a public service.

    Sorry I read that as "automaton" and thought how cool!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,540 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Let them strike.
    It will just encourage Transdev to automate the entire system and then these guys can sit on the dole queue.
    I won’t even mind my taxes going for their dole as it will teach them a lesson in how good they had it and still took the piss.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Sorry I read that as "automaton" and thought how cool!!!!!!

    Well... you could say I make digital automatons :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,963 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Pedro K wrote: »
    There will be people on this thread, soon enough, that will defend this to the hilt, as they defend, and often support, any industrial action, no matter how ridiculous it is.

    I defended their right to utilise their leverage the last time but this is a complete non issue that it would be ridiculous to strike over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    wow, just wow.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭Kat1170


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Business Systems Automation, sweetheart - and a privately operated public service remains a public service. Particularly a monopoly type one like the Luas.

    Meh, you don't seem so busy, pop out and buy yourself some sweeties for your lunch ;);)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Kat1170 wrote: »
    Meh, you don't seem so busy, pop out and buy yourself some sweeties for your lunch ;);)

    Yeah I discovered from the Cash thread Shenshen - if you have a job and a minute to post on Boards, you're lower than a snake's wedding tackle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭Kat1170


    Yeah I discovered from the Cash thread Shenshen - if you have a job and a minute to post on Boards, you're lower than a snake's wedding tackle.

    You should have become a Luas driver, problem solved ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Kat1170 wrote: »
    Meh, you don't seem so busy, pop out and buy yourself some sweeties for your lunch ;);)

    Having my lunch right now - the salad that had been sitting in my cooler bag on my desk since 7.30 this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭Kat1170


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Having my lunch right now - the salad that had been sitting in my cooler bag on my desk since 7.30 this morning.

    Enjoy :) Hope its not as bitter as most on here ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Kat1170 wrote: »
    Enjoy :) Hope its not as bitter as most on here ;)

    Never met a salad on here, so I can't compare. But mine is mostly tomatoes, broccoli, olives and feta, so mostly sweet and salty. No bitterness at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    They aren't though.

    Considered themselves comparable for the purposes of wage claims in line with that of Semi-States DB and IR though.


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