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Where have all the subcultures gone?

  • 30-08-2018 09:48AM
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    My mother used to talk about Teddy boys and Hippies.

    When I was a kid we had Mods, Ska's, Punks, Skinheads, New Romantics etc...

    Then I got a bit older and we mainly had Rockers, Goths and Townies, with a few left over Skinheads and Punks about. What you wore and how you did your hair and what you listened to defined what subculture you belonged to. I was a Rocker myself, I saved for ages for my black leather biker jacket. I drifted toward Goth as I got as bit older.

    What subcultures do the kids have now? I dont see any discernable groupings in terms of recognisable dress code anymore?


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  • #2
    Mr. CooL ICE
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    Twas ravers and metallers when I was a young lad. Could jump between them by simply changing your trousers.


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    ToddyDoody
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    There's the generics :)


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    jacksie66
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #5
    TheValeyard
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    They've all gone digital 4chan and reddit.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • #6
    GLaDOS
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    We've got cucks and nazis now

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • #7
    cantdecide
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    Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »
    They've all gone digital 4chan and reddit.

    Instagram

    I reckon the normies are the next sub-culture
    GLaDOS wrote: »
    We've got cucks and nazis now

    Do we get to choose which we want to be?


  • #8
    Fuzzytrooper
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    Leitrim?


  • #9
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    I forgot about Cureheads. They had great hair.


  • #10
    w/s/p/c/
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    They have all grown up and are now hipsters!


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    Go up the Belfast city centre, it is like stepping back to Dublin the 80's


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  • #12
    sbsquarepants
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    I forgot about Cureheads. They had great hair.

    Shower of oddballs put me off even listening to the cure first time around, something I've started doing only recently.

    I'm pissed off because it turns out they were pretty damn good all along!


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    Badly Drunk Boy
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    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    Shower of oddballs put me off even listening to the cure first time around, something I've started doing only recently.

    I'm pissed off because it turns out they were pretty damn good all along!
    Indeed! I'm an ex-Curehead. :o After nearly 30 years, I still only wear black.


  • #14
    Irish Guitarist
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    Kids don't even have any interest in listening to an album from start to finish anymore so the likelihood of them devoting their time to styling their like a teddy boy or something is slim to none. They still follow fashion but it doesn't seem to be informed by their choice in music.


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    Irish Guitarist wrote: »
    Kids don't even have any interest in listening to an album from start to finish anymore so the likelihood of them devoting their time to styling their like a teddy boy or something is slim to none. They still follow fashion but it doesn't seem to be informed by their choice in music.

    Im more looking at it from the point of individuality and self expression.

    We used to be part of subcultures because we wanted to be different. Now obviously we were only different within a larger group, all the rockers were still rockers and the same as each other. But rockers were a minority group within the wider group of kids of that generation. And mainly, we wanted to be different to our parents.

    Even within our particular subculture it was possible to express yourself differently to others, style your hair differently etc... There was no "one" rocker look, it was rather a theme of a number of different ways of being.

    But these days I see kids and they all look the same, no one is expressing any individuality or using their hair/clothes/style to express themselves.

    Whats happened!?


  • #16
    TheShockmaster
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    I think the peaks and troughs of personal expression have homogenised into a sort of shapeless sludge. I'd imagine given the importance of social media and the scrutiny on image teenagers are less likely to stand out and are more concerned with fitting in than previous generations.

    As far as I can see they are all much more into image than they used to be, and image these days is about acceptance and conformity rather than individuality.


  • #17
    Schwiiing
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    It's all about the GAA look with the young lads these days with bulging biceps and shoulders, skinny legs in their comedy tracksuits and Luftwaffe haircuts.


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    Schwiiing wrote: »
    Luftwaffe haircuts.

    The Luftwaffe haircut has morphed a bit, its more of a New Romantic frontage on it these days.


  • #19
    Pauliedragon
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    Dole Scrounging Vegan Crossfitter wrote: »
    Twas ravers and metallers when I was a young lad. Could jump between them by simply changing your trousers.
    I was hardcore metal until I took my first pill, within an hour is was turned. Next 3 years are a raving haze.


  • #20
    ablelocks
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    ....... wrote: »
    The Luftwaffe haircut has morphed a bit, its more of a New Romantic frontage on it these days.

    hahahahaha. I'll just say that to my 12.5 year old who started growing this yoke at the front of his head over the summer ... it'll be gone within a week!


  • #21
    Mr. CooL ICE
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    Pauliedragon wrote: »
    I was hardcore metal until I took my first pill, within an hour is was turned. Next 3 years are a raving haze.

    And then 5 years after the whole ravers/metallers/pants thing, the pants that defined a raver became the pants that defined a metaller.

    Abe Simpson: I used to be with etc etc


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    ablelocks wrote: »
    hahahahaha. I'll just say that to my 12.5 year old who started growing this yoke at the front of his head over the summer ... it'll be gone within a week!

    Well this was a typical Luftwaffe haircut:

    dd6504e699db8672cc2214c71b545425--luftwaffe-waffen.jpg

    And this is a fine bit of New Romantic frontage:

    801075f9d1a6155300318e17d59cb2be--john-taylor-womens-blouses.jpg

    The current style seems to be a marriage between the two.


  • #23
    Sardine
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    Where have all the Cowboys gone?


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    Sardine wrote: »
    Where have all the Cowboys gone?

    Still plenty of them around, they just dont have Stetsons these days.


  • #25
    tomofson
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    I have asked this question in the past, it would seem like music orientated subcultures are dead now days.

    I wish they still existed honestly, I miss the skater fashion of the 00's a lot. And I miss metalheads,punks and skinheads, I wish they all still existed but unfortunately they are gone for good.


  • #26
    everlast75
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEP1v3Typjk

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #27
    topper75
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    I thought the net would increase diversity. Nobody need by the only curehead, or whatever it is you are, in the village. You could connect with others with similar interest that didn't live in Borrisinamulloch.

    Seems I am wrong. It brought conformity.


  • #28
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    I don't know about that, there's definitely a mainstream look (the highly groomed boxfresh instagram look) but there absolutely was one when I was growing up, and I assume in the 80s too. I see plenty hippie and crusty kids, metal kids, skaters. Goth seems to have died.

    There are musical subcultures too, I live in Cork and even in a city this size there are a few different scenes even within techno. The relationship between fashion is less rigid but still, go to a metal gig for long beards and chains and black, go to a breakcore gig (don't do that) and you'd think it's fcuking sponsored by Adidas.

    Back in the day music and fashion was, literally, much more of an investment, and we had far less and far slower moving outside influence. Nowadays they've got all the music ever made anywhere, for free, whenever they want and can observe like, micro trends in Brixton street fashion in real time. If they're into a certain kind of music, they can follow the artist, join FB groups and connect with other like minded people easily, they don't have to wander around wearing the right t-shirt and hairstyle and hope they spot someone the same.

    It's different, and there are some things they're missing out on, but it's better in some ways too.


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    topper75 wrote: »
    I thought the net would increase diversity. Nobody need by the only curehead, or whatever it is you are, in the village. You could connect with others with similar interest that didn't live in Borrisinamulloch.

    Seems I am wrong. It brought conformity.

    Is it the net or social media that has brought about this lack of self expression?


  • #30
    Your Face
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    Perhaps it's now sub-grouped into race and gender and all that fun stuff.


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  • #31
    tomofson
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    ....... wrote: »
    Is it the net or social media that has brought about this lack of self expression?

    I believe music subcultures began to die out after facebook became popular, the lost one I remember around 2009ish was the scene kids.


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