Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Another homeless family raising their profile , The McDonaghs, on the 9 o clock news tonight. They only have three kids.

Tried to google this and didn't find anything, tuning in to RTE1+1 to catch it.

I did however find this family of 8 (https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/i-can-t-take-this-another-night-sitting-in-a-car-with-six-kids-1.2811066) who were homeless a couple of years ago. A few parallels with Margaret Cash's situation although in fairness it does mention that the father/husband works at least.

Also found a story on this nice father of 6 (https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/fatherofsix-admits-using-two-false-names-to-steal-over-44000-through-social-welfare-fraud-30685164.html) abusing the welfare system. I'm sure his children - like Maggie's - will grow up to be good, honest hardworking, tax paying citizens.

Edit: Just found this also. Father of 7 with 42 convictions getting €903 per week in benefits: https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/convicted-man-gets-euro903-welfare-a-week-court-hears-313123.html

NIMAN wrote:

Are you just gov bashing again? Our education system is as good as many.

I'm more a societal critic not just poltical one, our educational system fails to meet the needs of most citizens, many struggling with the most essential life skills post education

n97 mini wrote: »

That one in particular is unreal. Owns two houses and is getting €900 a week in welfare.

There's 29 children in total between the 3 links I posted, Maggie's litter, and the 3 McDonagh kids from the news tonight. I suspect that most of them will be living off welfare and/or frequenting prison cells down the line. Depressing stuff.

pablo128 wrote: »

A lot of travellers are getting disability payments which is a way around being made work.

The majority of these would have some form of intellectual disability.

This thread isnt really about people on disability allowance. It has its abusers no doubt but thats a very small minority.

As said by me and many posters. Cap child benefit payable only to the first child. Lone parent paid until the first child is 4 years of age again limited to the first child. Mandatory declarations of fathers of these children for the state to recoup maintenance. Like in the USA non payment of support = welfare restrictions, driving bans, withdrawal of state services.
Back to school allowance abolished

Materials, uniforms etc provided by schools via payment from the DSP.

Mandatory drug testing and searches of council housing of those suspected of any involvement in drugs and sanction of welfare for conviction of any criminal activity.

Vandalism/ASB by children to hit the pockets of their parents. Parents benefits linked to school attendance.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Our educational system already fails to meet the needs of a large proportion of our society, including travelers

I'll be the first to admit that it's not great, but if you don't goto class and learn and do the exams, it's your own fault for failing due to not showing up.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I'm more a societal critic not just poltical one, our educational system fails to meet the needs of most citizens, many struggling with the most essential life skills post education

What sort of "life skills" are you talking about?

Prisoner 6753 wrote: »

While driving around without insurance is a problem in general, it is an even bigger issue with people like that individual.

The sad thing is they are getting away with it, without being caught that is, a lot of the time.

Ah, but he has been caught. Just no jail time for it, it would seem.

Rod: Daddy, what do taxes pay for? -
Flanders: Why, everything! Policemen, trees, sunshine- and let's not forget the Margret Cash types who just don't feel like working, God bless 'em.

erica74 wrote: »

Someone from the Simon Community on the radio just said



:rolleyes:

What percentage of the population really really can't afford to rent?
What percentage of the population really really have nowhere to go if they can't afford to rent and don't own their own place?
Actually, I'd love to see actual figures on that. You see the likes of Cash who want a house near their mother but their mother would rather see them "homeless" than put them up while they find alternative accommodation.

Her mother has passed away recently i think and she wants a house near her grave not her house.

erica74 wrote:

So, a nonsense reason. A roof over your head should come first.

There's nothing nonsense about that, it relates to our emotional connections as human beings, it cannot be rationalised

erica74 wrote:

So she'd rather be whinging in the media about being "homeless" because she won't accept accommodation not within a certain radius of her mother's grave? She should be thinking of her children and what is in their best interests and that is, getting settled somewhere before school starts again.

The irrational mind cannot be rationed with