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What is the biggest taboo topic in modern society?

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  • #32
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Angus2018 wrote: »
    Nobody, Like I said its a taboo subject because you can't just make laws to stop breeding without the enormous repercussions years later or reduce population like they do for example to the Phonenix park deer when there are too much.

    Over population is a very complicated issue. Right now Dublin is over populated so rent is sky high, not enough houses, people can't get jobs, public transport is just about coping, big drug and homeless problems, lots of petty crime, roads clogged up at peak traffic times, many people commuting large distances and all of these are only getting worse. There isn't really anything that can be done, at least not with our government our culture. Compared to some Indian cities Dublin is a utopia but that doesn't change whats happening.

    When resources become scarce it will lead to war.
    When food becomes scarce that will lead to famine.
    When people are crammed together into cities unable to cope with that kind of population that will lead to all manners of disease.

    Thats what will combat overpopulation.


    Dublin isnt overpopulated really.

    Its underresourced from a housing point of view.


  • #33
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Yeah, I can't remember the last time I saw an immigration thread on Boards

    Has there ever been one that didnt degenerate to the point of irrelevance?


  • #34
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    spotifiedman wrote: »
    They say that cannibalism is the most taboo thing in almost all societies but I disagree. I think that it's death and suicide. From talking to people day to day and looking at online forums, there seems to be huge knee-jerk reaction compared to any other topic discussed. Don't know if people have found this as well.


    Speaking personally, I'd be a lot more shocked to here that Dave around the corner ate somebody, than killed himself. So, eh no, I haven't really found that!


  • #35
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    That men and women are physically different and sometimes some jobs are best done by one sex.


  • #36
    Chinasea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    steamsey wrote: »
    In Ireland, I'd say it's the lack of willingness for public debate on scroungers, social welfare lifers, and those who irresponsibly have families with no intention of supporting themselves and their offspring by actually working for a living.

    Another way of saying this is that there does not seem to be much talk about whether we can afford our social welfare bill, which is going to sky rocket as these families have more and more kids who are born with their hands out. Our social welfare bill is €20+ billion.

    One attempted segway into this area was Varadkar, like him or not, when he had his "welfare cheats cheat us all" thing there a while ago and was lambasted for what was, objectively, a very clear and sensible message.

    I'm not talking about everyone who benefits from social welfare payments of course, but there are more than a few wasters out there, and policy seems to be to placate them quickly before the media turns on the government.

    Somewhere along the way, these people starting using the phrase "forever home". I have a mortgage like most of the country, and I work to maintain it. But it is not a forever home. If I stop working, I'll eventually be turfed out. The mindset that, without working hard to maintain it, you can have a "forever home" is as depressing as it is infuriating.

    We may be undermining our entire society with the way we are handling this stuff. It's become more difficult to see why, other than maintaining your moral self, one would choose to actually work. Many might be only slightly worse off if they went down the welfare route, and this gap is narrowing.

    100% and then some.

    The writing is on the wall. I console myself each day by saying if I am lucky enough to make to retirement I will emigrate.

    Couldn't even enjoy a day off at the beach this summer as the pyjama brigade were there in their ever increasing droves, littering, spitting etc. I resent my taxes going to sponsoring this dysfunction.


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  • #37
    Shenshen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    That men and women are physically different and sometimes some jobs are best done by one sex.

    How is that a taboo? :confused:

    I'm perfectly happy to state that I re-grouted the bathroom over the weekend, I don't feel the least bit shameful about that.


  • #38
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    If a criminal sexual act is committed to tape and is broadcast on the internet why wouldnt a prosecution ensue?

    Because they aren’t related, even step related. They are actors.


  • #39
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Shenshen wrote: »
    How is that a taboo? :confused:

    I'm perfectly happy to state that I re-grouted the bathroom over the weekend, I don't feel the least bit shameful about that.

    Do you do nixers, my en suite is in an awful state!:D


  • #40
    Shenshen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    Do you do nixers, my en suite is in an awful state!:D

    Sorry, you'll have to wait until my nails have recovered. Getting the old grout out ruined them for a while.


  • #41
    myshirt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    i have no intention of googling that first one.

    Ah it's not that bad, just quite taboo and underground. The topic was first explored in a 1987 film starring Kim Catrall ( movie had a famous song written by Albert Hammond and sang by Jefferson Starship)

    I'll say no more.


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  • #42
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Shenshen wrote: »
    How is that a taboo? :confused:

    I'm perfectly happy to state that I re-grouted the bathroom over the weekend, I don't feel the least bit shameful about that.

    Perhaps I've shared an office space with a radical feminist for too long!

    I once said fathers were just as good at taking care of their children as women, and Serena Williams banging on about being a "working mom" was getting on my nerves - as she's not the only top tennis player with kids (Roger Federer has two sets of twins e.g.)

    You'd think I'd suggested releasing anthrax in an orphanage!


  • #43
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    Has there ever been one that didnt degenerate to the point of irrelevance?


    Poor quality does not make it taboo


  • #44
    Shenshen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Perhaps I've shared an office space with a radical feminist for too long!

    I once said fathers were just as good at taking care of their children as women, and Serena Williams banging on about being a "working mom" was getting on my nerves - as she's not the only top tennis player with kids (Roger Federer has two sets of twins e.g.)

    You'd think I'd suggested releasing anthrax in an orphanage!

    Soo... you assume a taboo is something people have different opinions about?
    I thought it was actually quite the opposite.


  • #45
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Soo... you assume a taboo is something people have different opinions about?
    I thought it was actually quite the opposite.

    No, I'm talking about taboo as in expressing an opinion and told it's "wrong".

    Easier to say nothing.


  • #46
    Shenshen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    No, I'm talking about taboo as in expressing an opinion and told it's "wrong".

    Easier to say nothing.

    Well, in that case it's taboo to have a tattoo, taboo to have a general healthcare system, taboo to not baptise or to baptise children, taboo to be vegetarian, taboo to be left-handed, taboo to drink alcohol, taboo that men have long hair (or women short hair, for that matter)... I've been told at various points in my life by various people that these things are wrong.
    I never felt that made them taboo, though?


  • #47
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Well, in that case it's taboo to have a tattoo, taboo to have a general healthcare system, taboo to not baptise or to baptise children, taboo to be vegetarian, taboo to be left-handed, taboo to drink alcohol, taboo that men have long hair (or women short hair, for that matter)... I've been told at various points in my life by various people that these things are wrong.
    I never felt that made them taboo, though?

    You're probably right and I'm looking at it from too narrow a viewpoint.

    It's a pain in the a**e to keep quiet tbh - last opinion I expressed was the be glad Paddy Jackson et al were found non guilty.

    That day dragged!!!!


  • #48
    jacksie66
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #49
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,288 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Sometimes people have to get over a little bit of trolling on Twitter/Facebook.


  • #50
    take everything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,995 ✭✭✭take everything


    Your Face wrote: »
    Being genuinely eccentric.

    Eccentric is only cool if you for into a category of eccentricism.

    Being an outsider of outsiders is not a nice place.


  • #51
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    take everything wrote: »
    Eccentric is only cool if you for into a category of eccentricism.

    Being an outsider of outsiders is not a nice place.

    Peaceful though ;) Rather enjoyable.

    PS I think you mean eccentricity.. and if you fit in you are no longer eccentric


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  • #52
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    steamsey wrote: »
    In Ireland, I'd say it's the lack of willingness for public debate on scroungers, social welfare lifers, and those who irresponsibly have families with no intention of supporting themselves and their offspring by actually working for a living.

    Another way of saying this is that there does not seem to be much talk about whether we can afford our social welfare bill, which is going to sky rocket as these families have more and more kids who are born with their hands out. Our social welfare bill is €20+ billion.

    One attempted segway into this area was Varadkar, like him or not, when he had his "welfare cheats cheat us all" thing there a while ago and was lambasted for what was, objectively, a very clear and sensible message.

    I'm not talking about everyone who benefits from social welfare payments of course, but there are more than a few wasters out there, and policy seems to be to placate them quickly before the media turns on the government.

    Somewhere along the way, these people starting using the phrase "forever home". I have a mortgage like most of the country, and I work to maintain it. But it is not a forever home. If I stop working, I'll eventually be turfed out. The mindset that, without working hard to maintain it, you can have a "forever home" is as depressing as it is infuriating.

    We may be undermining our entire society with the way we are handling this stuff. It's become more difficult to see why, other than maintaining your moral self, one would choose to actually work. Many might be only slightly worse off if they went down the welfare route, and this gap is narrowing.

    This is not a taboo as it comes up many times a day here on boards, but a repetetive verbal.. explosion

    taboo is something never ever spoken of in public.. viewed from behind net curtains....untouchable, unmentionable. Decades ago it would be for example. someone sleeping with ( euphemism and taboo go together) someone else's wife. It was so shocking it was taboo


  • #53
    Duckworth_Luas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Being a paid-up member of the National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes.


  • #54
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    The government selling NAMA properties to Noonan's Cerberus and then the Department of Housing buying some of them back, (the others possibly being among those we rent off them through HAP).


  • #55
    gw80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭gw80


    Fascism.
    You know you want it.


  • #56
    Capt'n Midnight
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    spotifiedman wrote: »
    They say that cannibalism is the most taboo thing in almost all societies but I disagree.
    Angus2018 wrote: »
    Overpopulation and its effect on the future of our planet.
    Which leads on to
    A Modest Proposal For preventing the Children of Poor People From being a Burthen to Their Parents or Country, and For making them Beneficial to the Publick,


  • #57
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Perhaps I've shared an office space with a radical feminist for too long!

    I once said fathers were just as good at taking care of their children as women, and Serena Williams banging on about being a "working mom" was getting on my nerves - as she's not the only top tennis player with kids (Roger Federer has two sets of twins e.g.)

    You'd think I'd suggested releasing anthrax in an orphanage!

    The local mothers hate seeing fathers collecting kids from school. Thats a Mammy job that Daddys are capable of doing


  • #58
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Conformity.

    For all the talk about individualism, there are incredible pressures in society to make you conform to someone else's approved way of life.
    The vast majority of people are conformers. The go with trends and fads. They back the popular line of thinking of the day for fear of been ostracised from the herd or being thought of as 'different'.

    True invidualism is quite rare.


  • #59
    TheShockmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭TheShockmaster


    Religion, followed closely by race, then gender, sexuality coming up the rear (ooooh errr).

    All of these subjects are taboo to a greater or lesser extent

    Things like child abuse, suicide and substance abuse are more contemporary issues.

    The extent of the taboo is dependent on the agenda of the people in the conversation.


  • #60
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,365 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    Which leads on to
    A Modest Proposal For preventing the Children of Poor People From being a Burthen to Their Parents or Country, and For making them Beneficial to the Publick,

    A brilliant piece of writing well worth reading.


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  • #61
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,755 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    Dublin isnt overpopulated really.

    Its underresourced from a housing point of view.

    I never get this argument. Why should Dublin (or anywhere else) just continue to grow and grow and grow and destroy all around it. Dublin IS overpopulated.

    But as has been said earlier in this thread there is no-one willing to stand up and tackle the issue at a national or global level in any country.


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