So who's going to see the Pope?

Hitman3000 wrote: »

It was incredible to see people defend the leader of an organisation that engaged in the systemic abuse and rape of children. Mad stuff tbh

And here we have an example of extreme views or just trolling.

Good Night everybody

Deleted User wrote: »

So maybe it wasn’t the most eleoquent of posts that got that poster banned but they werent the worst - this whole thread is a sh1tefest of abuse and trolling, one post after another.
You already have one “protest” thread around the Popes visit- why have you let this thread dissolve into a place where posters can’t have a decent reasonable discussion ?

Read it from start to finish and come back here and tell me that this thread is what you want AH to be. I mean, WTF is the topic at this point and exactly how many posters, including me, have stayed on that topic?

It’s a fcking thread fail and should have been shut long ago.

is that what AH is about now, whatever the mood takes you?

The topic is, obviously, the pope. I'm not going to close the Pope threads on the day the Pope is here, don't be daft.

Reasonable discussion is what the posters make of it, I've not been involved but hey. I want AH to be lighthearted, but I seem to be the only one, so I mod what is posted instead.

Anyway, what the thread is not about is moderation, so less of the backseat of that please.

People who believe in God (any god) = Fool people

Royal Legend wrote: »

You cannot have a discussion in here now without either getting abused or called names for having a particular view, not sure whether these are people with particularly extreme opinions or just trolls, Mods that pick sides don't help either

Respectfully dear RL, I feel you could perhaps be a little hasty in your judgement.

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Hitman3000 wrote: »

It was incredible to see people defend the leader of an organisation that engaged in the systemic abuse and rape of children. Mad stuff tbh

All you people ranting about the Church are sheep.

I just saw a Twitter post by a woman who claimed that her mother hated Priests and Nuns when they were kids back in the 70's because of their attitude to unmarried mothers (which she was) and it occurred to me, where was our great media when all this was going on.

Don't be fooling yourself that society didn't know what was going on with mother and baby homes and child sexual abuse in the Church when it was happening. It was part of society and when it comes to the mother and baby homes society had no problem with it because it was a solution to a problem. I know people who put their babies into Church run homes. Nobody came and took the kids from them, they had to travel sometimes good distances to drop off the kids (and this was at a time when a trip of more than 50 miles was considered a huge event). It was society's and the governments way of dealing with the problem, just like the favoured method now is abortion. Isn't it ironic that so many of the people who kick the sh1t out of the Church about the Tuam babies voted to Repeal the 8th and are therefore no different to the people who caused the Tuam babies to be in the home in Tuam to being with.

The only reason abuse by Priests is an issue now is because the media have decided to make it an issue now. The most important role of the media is not to give you something to read when your munching your cornflakes in the morning, it is to shine a light on injustice which in theory should prevent human rights abuses. That's why you see real reporters (from other countries) wearing flakjackets and risking their lives in warzones like Iraq, Palestine etc. Where were all our chicken sh1t corrupt useless media when RC Church abuse was going on - when they could have been of some practical use? The truth is they didn't give a sh1t. They hadn't the balls to expose the truth back then just like they haven't the balls to expose corruption in Ireland today.

I wonder, when you study communications or media in college, do they not tell budding journalists why a fearless media is important. You would think that might be covered in week 1 perhaps. Or if they do tell them what in the name of Jesus happens to this knowledge afterwards. Do they all get amnesia at their graduation ceremony. I can completely understand lack of journalistic integrity in RTE (they're paid by the government) but is the government spiking the punch at all media students graduations with some lethal sh1t the bought off the Russians that causes all journalists to forget the bit about shining a light on injustice? Sounds far fetched but it would explain a lot. There isn't a journalist in Ireland worth a toss except for Gemma O'Doherty.

This would be funny if it wasn't tragic. I've lost count of the times I have heard snippets about issues, but the story doesn't take off and then months or years later when our media decides they need more content to print on the chip wrapper they make it an issue and behave like it is the worst thing in the world, even though it wasn't worth a mention 6 months or 6 years ago when it first surfaced. The Irish media are only interested in these stories as material to fill column inches and they only use them when their masters (big business and government) let them (by which time is it always too late). There is no urgency getting them out there - time enough when we need more content.

Jimmy Savile was a case in point. The dogs in the street knew what he was up to but he wasn't the only one at it. If he had been taken down then God only knows how many big fish he would have took with him so best to keep it all under wraps eh? Sure we can always do it later when he's dead and can't spill the beans.

I'd say that there are other organisations who were riddled with abuse scandals (I could make a good guess at one) and who are thanking their lucky stars that the journalists have the Church to kick the sh1t out of and don't need to expose them. The shouldn't get too comfortable because when our fearless news poodles have finished kicking the sh1t out of the Church (which admittedly will take years) and when these other organisations are not as powerful as they once were they will eventually get around to them (when yet again it is too late to serve any real purpose except to sell newspapers).

Anyone reading this who is over the age of 40 and claims they didn't know about child abuse in the Church at least 20 years ago is a liar. If ordinary people knew about it, the media knew about it.

You're all being programmed and you haven't even the cop on to see it.

I'm glad Pope Francis got his couple of little jibes back at Leo today when he mentioned abortion and the homeless. In time these will be seen as equally scandalous but our great media and Pope Francis was basically saying my house may not be in order Leo but your isn't either, they just haven't got around to you yet.

What scandal are the media going to get your balls all twisted up over next year. You don't even know yet.

Sheep.

dasdog wrote: »

If there is something worse than devout Catholics it's Protestants.

I don't recall any major sex abuse scandals in the protestant church.

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

How can someone who believes in a god and then an all mighty leader call other people sheeple. It defiys believe.

The funny thing is that there are pens set up in the Phoenix Park for the people attending to be held in.

Fighting Tao wrote: »

The funny thing is that there are pens set up in the Phoenix Park for the people attending to be held in.

Well that's kind of standard for these type of events. Crowd control / health and safety etc

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