Should we protest against the pope's visit?

Sleeper12 · 25-08-2018 05:27PM

Sleeper12 wrote:

I heard of the pope protest where people order tickets with no intention of going. Having a pint with a mate yesterday & he tells me his EX & her friend have over 100 pope tickets between them. They got the Maximum delivered to 75 Something Road, 75A something Road, 75B, 75C etc I believe its 12 per address. My basic maths says if 1000 protesters did the same thats 100'000 tickets or a fifth of all tickets.

I posted this in another thread earlier but it was shut down.

Does anyone know how many tickets were snapped up in protest? I have read someone got over 1000 claiming to be several country couches

Hitman3000 · 25-08-2018 05:29PM

Sleeper12 wrote:

Does anyone know how many tickets were snapped up in protest? I have read someone got over 1000 claiming to be several country couches

There's plenty of tickets available, there is thread here offering tickets same on FB. Not as in demand as claimed.

Taytoland · 25-08-2018 05:29PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Streets are packed

https://twitter.com/HenryMcKean/status/1033356368022052864

Posted approx 3pm today.

"A thin crowd so far for Pope Francis, the Queen of England attracted more."

The Queen is a wonderful leader. That is why and the love for British culture by West Brits.

Sleeper12 · 25-08-2018 05:31PM

Hitman3000 wrote:

There's plenty of tickets available, there is thread here offering tickets same on FB. Not as in demand as claimed.

Yet they keep saying over 500,000 for tomorrow when the number is capped at 500,000 maximum

An_Toirpin · 25-08-2018 05:31PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

They didn't clamp down on mine, I still have 40. Someone telling porkies methinks.

What a nasty authoritarian you are to stop people from attending who want to. It isn't even a meaningful way to protest, as it is nearly invisible.

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 05:35PM

So there’ll be a load from religious orders around the world, a load of tourists, a load of elderly Irish, fewer middle aged or younger Irish adults, and kids they had no choice but to go. There’ll probably still be room for maybe 200k more in the Phoenix Park. Loads of space for people to set up the picnic rug and have a mug of tea and jam sambo.

I’ll be at the Garden of Remembrance if I can get in with the numbers expected to attend it.

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 05:37PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

What a nasty authoritarian you are to stop people from attending who want to. It isn't even a meaningful way to protest, as it is nearly invisible.

That’s just in your mind. We went through this before. There are more than enough tickets available for those who wish to attend.

Beechwoodspark · 25-08-2018 05:38PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

So there’ll be a load from religious orders around the world, a load of tourists, a load of elderly Irish, fewer middle aged or younger Irish adults, and kids they had no choice but to go. There’ll probably still be room for maybe 200k more in the Phoenix Park. Loads of space for people to set up the picnic rug and have a mug of tea and jam sambo.

I’ll be at the Garden of Remembrance if I can get in with the numbers expected to attend it.

I’d say very small numbers will attend that. Especially if it’s raining.

robbiezero · 25-08-2018 05:39PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

What a nasty authoritarian you are to stop people from attending who want to. It isn't even a meaningful way to protest, as it is nearly invisible.

How do you know if people have booked tickets to the Papal Mass in order to prevent others attending?

They tell you.

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 05:40PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’d say very small numbers will attend that. Especially if it’s raining.

Yep. People don’t like to spend a day standing out in the rain.

Beechwoodspark · 25-08-2018 05:40PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Yep. People don’t like to spend a day standing out in the rain.

It’ll be feckin grim down at the garden of remembrance. Never liked that place

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 05:40PM

robbiezero wrote: »

How do you know if people have booked tickets to the Papal Mass in order to prevent others attending?

They tell you.

How many have been booked by catholics that can’t be arsed turning up because of the walk, the rain or a million other excuses?

An_Toirpin · 25-08-2018 05:41PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

That’s just in your mind. We went through this before. There are more than enough tickets available for those who wish to attend.

Intention. It is about intention. Can you really claim to me that if there was an infinite number of tickets available that protestors would still book tickets? Whether or not the tickets sell out is irrelevant to the question, because clearly their intention is block tickets.

You have not addressed that point.

robbiezero · 25-08-2018 05:42PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

How many have been booked by catholics that can’t be arsed turning up because of the walk, the rain or a million other excuses?

No idea. They probably won't be spouting it all over their social media.

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 05:43PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It’ll be feckin grim down at the garden of remembrance. Never liked that place

Won’t be grim at all compared to a half empty compound in the Phoenix Park where people at showing their appreciation and loyalty to an organisation so rotten to the core that the members can’t see it.

Beechwoodspark · 25-08-2018 05:44PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Won’t be grim at all compared to a half empty compound in the Phoenix Park where people at showing their appreciation and loyalty to an organisation so rotten to the core that the members can’t see it.

I’ve no problem with people have freedom of religious belief. It’s a key human right regardless of what others would say

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 05:44PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

Intention. It is about intention. Can you really claim to me that if there was an infinite number of tickets available that protestors would still book tickets? Whether or not the tickets sell out is irrelevant to the question, because clearly their intention is block tickets.

You have not addressed that point.

How can something free sell out?

As for infinite tickets....please stop making up false scenarios just to try to make a point.

Fighting Tao · 25-08-2018 05:46PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’ve no problem with people have freedom of religious belief. It’s a key human right regardless of what others would say

Religious beliefs are fine. However, blind faith is never good. Either is supporting an organisation that committed the crimes that the RCC have done and continue to do so. I suspect this is the point our likeness heads off different directions.

Beechwoodspark · 25-08-2018 05:49PM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Religious beliefs are fine. However, blind faith is never good. Either is supporting an organisation that committed the crimes that the RCC have done and continue to do so. I suspect this is the point our likeness heads off different directions.

Everyone has their opinions. Mine is live and let live. The atmosphere in the city centre was incredible earlier on. Everyone in great form. Positivity. Brilliant to see. If this pope can bring some more of that to this little country over the coming hours and days I’m all for it.

RustyNut · 25-08-2018 05:49PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Won’t be grim at all compared to a half empty compound in the Phoenix Park where people at showing their appreciation and loyalty to an organisation so rotten to the core that the members can’t see it.

I’ve no problem with people have freedom of religious belief. It’s a key human right regardless of what others would say

Did some poster here suggest that people shouldn't have freedom of religious belief or is that just in your imagination?

RustyNut · 25-08-2018 05:49PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Won’t be grim at all compared to a half empty compound in the Phoenix Park where people at showing their appreciation and loyalty to an organisation so rotten to the core that the members can’t see it.

I’ve no problem with people have freedom of religious belief. It’s a key human right regardless of what others would say

Did some poster here suggest that people shouldn't have freedom of religious belief or is that just in your imagination?

Beechwoodspark · 25-08-2018 05:53PM

RustyNut wrote: »

Did some poster here suggest that people shouldn't have freedom of religious belief or is that just in your imagination?

Let’s agree that people are free to take great pleasure and substance from the papal visit.

Others are free to protest. Yes

irishman86 · 25-08-2018 06:03PM

Christ but some people in Ireland really are just stupid, what on earth would protesting the pope even achieve only to highlight how ****ing ignorant you are.
Just ignore it if its not your thing

Beechwoodspark · 25-08-2018 06:09PM

irishman86 wrote: »

Christ but some people in Ireland really are just stupid, what on earth would protesting the pope even achieve only to highlight how ****ing ignorant you are.
Just ignore it if its not your thing

Some people want to protest. Let them I say.

Discodog · 25-08-2018 06:10PM

irishman86 wrote: »

Christ but some people in Ireland really are just stupid, what on earth would protesting the pope even achieve only to highlight how ****ing ignorant you are.
Just ignore it if its not your thing

This visit is getting massive world coverage. It doesn't hurt to remind people that not all of Ireland support the abuse of children or the visit of the abuser in chief.

B0jangles · 25-08-2018 06:18PM

I hadn't really planned on going in to the protest tomorrow, but after all the mealy-mouthed equivocation in the last week or so, from multiple very senior clergymen - all those long-flowery phrases expressing nothing more than the usual hollow claptrap I'm definitely going, as are most of my family.

If they think they can wring their hands and ask for forgiveness while STILL continuing to do everything they can to prevent the truth from coming out, they are in for a rude awakening.

tylercheribini · 25-08-2018 06:20PM

irishman86 wrote: »

Christ but some people in Ireland really are just stupid, what on earth would protesting the pope even achieve only to highlight how ****ing ignorant you are.
Just ignore it if its not your thing

Exercising a privilege that many countries do not enjoy.

Irish Kings · 25-08-2018 06:25PM

B0jangles wrote: »

I hadn't really planned on going in to the protest tomorrow, but after all the mealy-mouthed equivocation in the last week or so, from multiple very senior clergymen - all those long-flowery phrases expressing nothing more than the usual hollow claptrap I'm definitely going, as are most of my family.

If they think they can wring their hands and ask for forgiveness while STILL continuing to do everything they can to prevent the truth from coming out, they are in for a rude awakening.

I'm really am staggered there are so few protesting. It's bizarre and baffling to be honest. RTE has given large coverage to all the protesters on the news and there is only a handful at each of the locations they covered.

irishman86 · 25-08-2018 06:29PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Some people want to protest. Let them I say.

They can, that doesnt stop them being stupid

Discodog wrote: »

This visit is getting massive world coverage. It doesn't hurt to remind people that not all of Ireland support the abuse of children or the visit of the abuser in chief.

Yawn, people dont think that at all about Ireland.
You realise we arent the only religion in the world and definitely not the only ones who have been affected by it.
Maybe find something else to worry about like the fact it was Irish men abusing these children. But hey no lets rant and rave about a Argentine :rolleyes:
Like i said already, you all come across as idiots

Beechwoodspark · 25-08-2018 06:29PM

Irish Kings wrote: »

I'm really am staggered there are so few protesting. It's bizarre and baffling to be honest. RTE has given large coverage to all the protesters on the news and there is only a handful at each of the locations they covered.

Especially as well with RTÉ and the media going on non stop about the scandals for the last few weeks.

Maybe ppl are tired of it all at this stage. Or they have a sense of closure on those past crimes and have turned the page.

Should we protest against the pope's visit?

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