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Should we protest against the pope's visit?

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I believe a huge protest against the popes visit is required to show the government and church they are no longer welcome or wanted in our society. What do you think? There are many stakeholders that should protest their removal from any influence in our society. Some that come to mind are:
1) Anyone not supportive of misogyny
2) Anyone that doesn't believe in school indoctrination of children in a massive lie.
3) Anyone concerned about abusers in positions allowing abuse
4) Anyone with the most basic scientific education.
5) Anyone that doesn't support cults
6) Anyone that believes LGBT people should be treated fairly in society.
7) Anyone that believes women should have ANY control of their bodies.
8) Anyone that is not seen as equal in the church namely women children and men.

There are many other areas but I realised I have covered everyone. As such let's all go to the Phoenix park to let the Vatican know they are not welcome.
Are there any peaceful groups planning to protest?

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Discodog

irishman86 wrote: »

Christ but some people in Ireland really are just stupid, what on earth would protesting the pope even achieve only to highlight how ****ing ignorant you are.
Just ignore it if its not your thing

This visit is getting massive world coverage. It doesn't hurt to remind people that not all of Ireland support the abuse of children or the visit of the abuser in chief.

Beechwoodspark

irishman86 wrote: »

Christ but some people in Ireland really are just stupid, what on earth would protesting the pope even achieve only to highlight how ****ing ignorant you are.
Just ignore it if its not your thing

Some people want to protest. Let them I say.

irishman86

Christ but some people in Ireland really are just stupid, what on earth would protesting the pope even achieve only to highlight how ****ing ignorant you are.
Just ignore it if its not your thing

Beechwoodspark

RustyNut wrote: »

Did some poster here suggest that people shouldn't have freedom of religious belief or is that just in your imagination?

Let’s agree that people are free to take great pleasure and substance from the papal visit.

Others are free to protest. Yes

RustyNut

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Won’t be grim at all compared to a half empty compound in the Phoenix Park where people at showing their appreciation and loyalty to an organisation so rotten to the core that the members can’t see it.

I’ve no problem with people have freedom of religious belief. It’s a key human right regardless of what others would say

Did some poster here suggest that people shouldn't have freedom of religious belief or is that just in your imagination?

RustyNut

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Won’t be grim at all compared to a half empty compound in the Phoenix Park where people at showing their appreciation and loyalty to an organisation so rotten to the core that the members can’t see it.

I’ve no problem with people have freedom of religious belief. It’s a key human right regardless of what others would say

Did some poster here suggest that people shouldn't have freedom of religious belief or is that just in your imagination?

Beechwoodspark

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Religious beliefs are fine. However, blind faith is never good. Either is supporting an organisation that committed the crimes that the RCC have done and continue to do so. I suspect this is the point our likeness heads off different directions.

Everyone has their opinions. Mine is live and let live. The atmosphere in the city centre was incredible earlier on. Everyone in great form. Positivity. Brilliant to see. If this pope can bring some more of that to this little country over the coming hours and days I’m all for it.

Fighting Tao

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’ve no problem with people have freedom of religious belief. It’s a key human right regardless of what others would say

Religious beliefs are fine. However, blind faith is never good. Either is supporting an organisation that committed the crimes that the RCC have done and continue to do so. I suspect this is the point our likeness heads off different directions.

Fighting Tao

An_Toirpin wrote: »

Intention. It is about intention. Can you really claim to me that if there was an infinite number of tickets available that protestors would still book tickets? Whether or not the tickets sell out is irrelevant to the question, because clearly their intention is block tickets.

You have not addressed that point.

How can something free sell out?

As for infinite tickets....please stop making up false scenarios just to try to make a point.

Beechwoodspark

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Won’t be grim at all compared to a half empty compound in the Phoenix Park where people at showing their appreciation and loyalty to an organisation so rotten to the core that the members can’t see it.

I’ve no problem with people have freedom of religious belief. It’s a key human right regardless of what others would say

Fighting Tao

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

It’ll be feckin grim down at the garden of remembrance. Never liked that place

Won’t be grim at all compared to a half empty compound in the Phoenix Park where people at showing their appreciation and loyalty to an organisation so rotten to the core that the members can’t see it.

robbiezero

Fighting Tao wrote: »

How many have been booked by catholics that can’t be arsed turning up because of the walk, the rain or a million other excuses?

No idea. They probably won't be spouting it all over their social media.

An_Toirpin

Fighting Tao wrote: »

That’s just in your mind. We went through this before. There are more than enough tickets available for those who wish to attend.

Intention. It is about intention. Can you really claim to me that if there was an infinite number of tickets available that protestors would still book tickets? Whether or not the tickets sell out is irrelevant to the question, because clearly their intention is block tickets.

You have not addressed that point.

Fighting Tao

robbiezero wrote: »

How do you know if people have booked tickets to the Papal Mass in order to prevent others attending?

They tell you.

How many have been booked by catholics that can’t be arsed turning up because of the walk, the rain or a million other excuses?

Beechwoodspark

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Yep. People don’t like to spend a day standing out in the rain.

It’ll be feckin grim down at the garden of remembrance. Never liked that place

Fighting Tao

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’d say very small numbers will attend that. Especially if it’s raining.

Yep. People don’t like to spend a day standing out in the rain.

robbiezero

An_Toirpin wrote: »

What a nasty authoritarian you are to stop people from attending who want to. It isn't even a meaningful way to protest, as it is nearly invisible.

How do you know if people have booked tickets to the Papal Mass in order to prevent others attending?

They tell you.

Beechwoodspark

Fighting Tao wrote: »

So there’ll be a load from religious orders around the world, a load of tourists, a load of elderly Irish, fewer middle aged or younger Irish adults, and kids they had no choice but to go. There’ll probably still be room for maybe 200k more in the Phoenix Park. Loads of space for people to set up the picnic rug and have a mug of tea and jam sambo.

I’ll be at the Garden of Remembrance if I can get in with the numbers expected to attend it.

I’d say very small numbers will attend that. Especially if it’s raining.

Fighting Tao

An_Toirpin wrote: »

What a nasty authoritarian you are to stop people from attending who want to. It isn't even a meaningful way to protest, as it is nearly invisible.

That’s just in your mind. We went through this before. There are more than enough tickets available for those who wish to attend.

Fighting Tao

So there’ll be a load from religious orders around the world, a load of tourists, a load of elderly Irish, fewer middle aged or younger Irish adults, and kids they had no choice but to go. There’ll probably still be room for maybe 200k more in the Phoenix Park. Loads of space for people to set up the picnic rug and have a mug of tea and jam sambo.

I’ll be at the Garden of Remembrance if I can get in with the numbers expected to attend it.

An_Toirpin

Hitman3000 wrote: »

They didn't clamp down on mine, I still have 40. Someone telling porkies methinks.

What a nasty authoritarian you are to stop people from attending who want to. It isn't even a meaningful way to protest, as it is nearly invisible.

[Deleted User]

Hitman3000 wrote:

There's plenty of tickets available, there is thread here offering tickets same on FB. Not as in demand as claimed.

Yet they keep saying over 500,000 for tomorrow when the number is capped at 500,000 maximum

Taytoland

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Streets are packed

https://twitter.com/HenryMcKean/status/1033356368022052864

Posted approx 3pm today.

"A thin crowd so far for Pope Francis, the Queen of England attracted more."

The Queen is a wonderful leader. That is why and the love for British culture by West Brits.

Hitman3000

Sleeper12 wrote:

Does anyone know how many tickets were snapped up in protest? I have read someone got over 1000 claiming to be several country couches

There's plenty of tickets available, there is thread here offering tickets same on FB. Not as in demand as claimed.

[Deleted User]

Sleeper12 wrote:

I heard of the pope protest where people order tickets with no intention of going. Having a pint with a mate yesterday & he tells me his EX & her friend have over 100 pope tickets between them. They got the Maximum delivered to 75 Something Road, 75A something Road, 75B, 75C etc I believe its 12 per address. My basic maths says if 1000 protesters did the same thats 100'000 tickets or a fifth of all tickets.

I posted this in another thread earlier but it was shut down.

Does anyone know how many tickets were snapped up in protest? I have read someone got over 1000 claiming to be several country couches

Hitman3000

Hotblack Desiato wrote:

"A thin crowd so far for Pope Francis, the Queen of England attracted more."

The marathon attracts more.

Hotblack Desiato

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Streets are packed

https://twitter.com/HenryMcKean/status/1033356368022052864

Posted approx 3pm today.

"A thin crowd so far for Pope Francis, the Queen of England attracted more."

Hotblack Desiato

Deleted User wrote: »

And I object to protesting the Popes visit because it's simply pissing on the day for Catholics who are in no way responsible for what happened.

Two things

(1) Those attending the Phoenix Park will not see or hear the 'protest' which is several km away in Parnell Square. It's not a protest it's to show solidarity with the victims of catholic church abuse. Both the church and the state turned their back on them for decades. The church still will not open its archives or make financial restitution.

(2)The money they put on the collection plate helps fund high priced lawyers to shield paedophiles from justice. It also helps ensure convicted paedophiles have a comfortable retirement.

Any decent person should have nothing whatsoever to do with such a wicked and unrepentant organisation.

Hitman3000

The Kop wrote:

And yet you probably voted for the murder of unborn kids....

The mask slips.... Women should know there place right?

Discodog

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Get over it

Many never will. The RC faith doesn't allow for changing your opinion or being open minded.