Wednesday August 22 - ( Day 1 York)

BumperD · 20-08-2018 11:50pm #1

Opening this up now to get peoples thoughts. Cracking Group 1 Juddmonte to kick off the festival with a clash of the generations . With the 3yr colts olds not exactly firing so far I’d be siding with the fav Poets Word.

O Brien horses still below par (the two in France yesterday ran crap). Interest to see how they fare, I won’t touch them

kiers47 · 21-08-2018 5:31am

The Lockinge is back in May bumper

The International stakes is tomorrow.

Mgoraf · 21-08-2018 8:29am

Think the Pentagon at 8s is massive. They're going to go rapid in front with so many front runners in the race and think he'll be staying on very well from the back to pick up the pieces.

BumperD · 21-08-2018 11:28am

kiers47 wrote: »

The Lockinge is back in May bumper

The International stakes is tomorrow.

Haha I was tired fixed now!

kiers47 · 21-08-2018 12:48pm

I havent really taken a deep deep look at either the Voltigeur or the International tomorrow as of yet.

But on initial glance i thought the 2/1 about Cross Counter in the Voltigeur was pretty fair. Kew Gardens has a Group 1 penalty and he looked more at home over the longer trip at Ascot. That race in France last time was a shocking Group 1.
He will do for me at the price.

The International is tough but what a race it is. Id say ill just sit back and enjoy it. There will be easier races to work out than that this week.

Slattsy · 21-08-2018 1:00pm

Couldn't really touch any O'Brien nag at the moment. Whats the ground like?

ANDREWMUFC · 21-08-2018 1:14pm

The Lion will roar at York

kiers47 · 21-08-2018 1:30pm

Ground is Good to Firm at the moment Slattsy.

BumperD · 21-08-2018 4:28pm

Getting cold feet on Poets Word so I won’t back him, had another look at the race

Slattsy · 21-08-2018 4:33pm

kiers47 wrote: »

Ground is Good to Firm at the moment Slattsy.

If it was over further it'd be hard to look past Poets Word, but he has a few lbs in hand and could we be hard to be beat still.
But he could be vulnerable to a speedier type. Maybe RL as he'll be held onto for as long as possible this time, and could pounce close home, but he's no value. I'll just watch it.

Is Saxon Warrior big on their last run though?? Ha ha

tryfix · 21-08-2018 5:11pm

The Juddmonte is a cracking race.

Roaring Lion is flattered by his Eclipse win, Cliffs Of Moher was 2 3/4L behind him in 3rd. Cliffs Of Moher is certainly no world beater so the Eclipse form is meh.

Saxon Warrior could improve on his Eclipse run but I can't see much reason to think he will improve significantly on Sandown. Without Parole is in a similar but even weaker position regarding his chances of improving to win this.

Latrobe is underestimated but he's still not good enough. Thundering Blue is just not good enough.

The two Godolphin horses are dangerous and they're the best outside bets but it's best to keep it simple. Poet's Word has been all class this year and nothing in the field is in his class. The presence of all these other hyped horses just makes Poet's Word good value.

BumperD · 21-08-2018 10:17pm

Have gone with the Watan/Cross Counter double for Day 1. Looks obvious but so did the favs at the last big meeting and those went awry

antietam · 21-08-2018 10:51pm

Christ ,Imagine backing the value of the KNOWLEDGE of these posters,OMG.

BumperD · 22-08-2018 12:35am

Can you imagine backing cracking smart at 4/1 ante post worst price when most firms were offering 6/1 nrnb for Cheltenham OMG.

kiers47 · 22-08-2018 5:47am

I suppose we will find out Stings value shots at about 5pm...

ASOT · 22-08-2018 7:29am

kiers47 wrote: »

I suppose we will find out Stings value shots at about 5pm...

If only his internet wasnt ****e we would all be quids in

The Mig · 22-08-2018 7:46am

Happy Boom The Groom day

gazza1 · 22-08-2018 8:00am

Can't make my mind up between Roaring Lion and Poets Word so have done the R/F

At Killarney BOUQUET GARNI looks a decent ew bet in the 4.45 at 12s 4 places some firms.
If you forget it's last run when badly hampered has been running well throughout the summer.
O Grady also has a good record at the track and slattery back on to take a useful 4lbs off.

GL

mailburner · 22-08-2018 10:28am

Cross counter wins this handy enough surely

Backing the two thunders ew in the big one hoping one gets placed at least

longshotvalue · 22-08-2018 10:55am

Went for Nelson at a huge eprice EW, because Pentagon was too short, now pentagon is at the backable price.. Probably have a saver.

useurowname · 22-08-2018 10:57am

Poets Word has to be the one. Quickens and stays, he's all class and his trainers record in the race second to none(current form is also good) I couldnt have Roaring Lion, he got a bit of luck I thought against Saxon Warrior form at Sandown, in other countries the stewards would have reversed things also Donnacha could have been smarter up the run in. I expect Latrobe to set a nice gallop today for Doyle(top man also) to aim at and to come and sweep on . . banker !!

Auroras_encore · 22-08-2018 11:02am

York
1.55 el Astronaute 10/1
4.15 Speedo boy 17/2
4.50 Absolute dream 33/1

Killarney

3.05 Avalanche 8/1
4.45 Alwarda 17/2
5.20 Happy Company 6/1

hawaii501 · 22-08-2018 11:46am

I think Poet's Word is the one, showed the battling qualities too in its last race against Crystal Ocean.

kiers47 · 22-08-2018 12:54pm

I took El Astronaute also e/w at 11/1. Usually runs his race and likes it here at York.

The Mig · 22-08-2018 1:02pm

Nice Kiers and AE

Daraa · 22-08-2018 1:02pm

Auroras_encore wrote: »

York
1.55 el Astronaute 10/1

Well done!

kiers47 · 22-08-2018 1:07pm

The Mig wrote: »

Nice Kiers and AE

Cheers will take it. That horse is a model of consistency over the last 18months. Almost always runs his race.

tryfix · 22-08-2018 1:07pm

Daraa wrote: »

Well done!

Poster is on fire at the moment. I can't believe how consistently they're knocking in decent priced winners.

Daraa · 22-08-2018 1:18pm

Going with a Cross Counter & Poets World double myself!

mailburner · 22-08-2018 1:23pm

antietam wrote: »

Christ ,Imagine backing the value of the KNOWLEDGE of these posters,OMG.

12/1 winner picked by two posters OMG

The Mig · 22-08-2018 1:27pm

Internet is acting up in my villa in the south of France here but El Astronaute is the best handicapped horse in the race 1.55pm.

BumperD · 22-08-2018 1:40pm

Great picks lads

kiers47 · 22-08-2018 2:17pm

Vintage Spencer there in the Acomb. Nice after a 5 timer yesterday.

Just cant bring myself to do anything in the big one. I can see about 5 different results depending on how the race pans out. I suppose Poets Word is the most likely but his price reflects that. Although he has almost drifted to a back-able price i think ill just sit back and enjoy the spectacle.

This is one of the races of the season so far for me so a bet is not necessary .

kiers47 · 22-08-2018 2:20pm

kiers47 wrote: »

But on initial glance i thought the 2/1 about Cross Counter in the Voltigeur was pretty fair. Kew Gardens has a Group 1 penalty and he looked more at home over the longer trip at Ascot. That race in France last time was a shocking Group 1.
He will do for me at the price.

Thats the second time Old Persian has done me in a race at 1 of the big festivals after me putting up Rostropovich at Ascot. Grrrrr :rolleyes:

kiers47 · 22-08-2018 2:38pm

That was good. Got the perfect run unlike last time. Poets Word had a troubled passage but think the best horse under the conditions won it.

Good horse.

Gavin "shels" · 22-08-2018 2:38pm

Impressive!

ASOT · 22-08-2018 2:39pm

The Lion Roars, great ride by Murphy

famagusta · 22-08-2018 2:42pm

ASOT wrote:

The Lion Roars, great ride by Murphy

Christophe completely set it up for him!

Auroras_encore · 22-08-2018 2:44pm

Soumillion won that race, I bet my life that poets word comfortably beats roaring lion if they meet again

Francie Barrett · 22-08-2018 2:59pm

Something not right with Aidan's horses, poor show all round.

gazza1 · 22-08-2018 3:02pm

Well done lads with RL and EL Astronaute.

Just glad my R/F came in

kiers47 · 22-08-2018 3:06pm

Nice 1 gazza

tryfix · 22-08-2018 6:14pm

Yet another big race this year sees another very highly rated horse run way below form, Roaring Lion was good today but the close up presence of Thundering Blue shows that Poet's Word was miles behind his 130 OR rating. The Juddmonte turned into another typical big race at York where a top horse gets turned over. It's a weird track, Gosden himself had Golden Horn and Taghrooda beaten there at long odds on.

I quite fancy Poet's Word to bounce back to form in the Arc.

Auroras_encore · 22-08-2018 6:23pm

KINGSTON KURRAJONG & lawmaking in the 7.45 at wolverhampton is tempting at 20's and 14's

antietam · 22-08-2018 7:59pm

BumperD wrote: »

Can you imagine backing cracking smart at 4/1 ante post worst price when most firms were offering 6/1 nrnb for Cheltenham OMG.

This has to be the best post ever,wow.Well done poster.

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