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Redstart Kale

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  • #32
    K.G.
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    Why not spray it off


  • #33
    alps
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    This is in 3 weeks. Advise was to give 18.6.12 at sowing and bring up to 100N after establishment.

    Back from hols now, but concerned . Could we damage the crop by driving on it, or could we damage it by fertiliser grains resting on the leaves?


  • #34
    Sami23
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    alps wrote: »
    This is in 3 weeks. Advise was to give 18.6.12 at sowing and bring up to 100N after establishment.

    Back from hols now, but concerned . Could we damage the crop by driving on it, or could we damage it by fertiliser grains resting on the leaves?

    It's looking good. I wouldn't go driving on it anyway as your damage a certain amount of it. Whatever fert you were going to put on should have been done at sowing imo


  • #35
    Mooooo
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    Perhaps get a contractor in with GPS and high spread width spinner?


  • #36
    MF290
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    alps wrote: »
    This is in 3 weeks. Advise was to give 18.6.12 at sowing and bring up to 100N after establishment.

    Back from hols now, but concerned . Could we damage the crop by driving on it, or could we damage it by fertiliser grains resting on the leaves?

    Contractor top dressed ours with a Bredal last year doesn’t add up to much with 24m spread width. By October wasn’t that noticeable in a mid July sown crop.


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  • #37
    early_riser
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    K.G. wrote: »
    Why not spray it off

    Sowed 3 acres here 3 weeks ago that was grazed bare beforehand . Didnt bother spraying off, ploughed it(well tore it up best i could with a plough i pulled out ditch hasnt been used in 15+ years), grubbed it, broadcast seed, broadcast fert, light grub and rolled it. It looks same as stuff in pic in above post with no weeds to be seen yet so should stay ahead of them now. Rain badly now needed thou to keep it going.

    Have 5 acres to be cut next week going to chance sowing it the same way. Clear bales and plough straight away


  • #38
    alps
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    MF290 wrote: »
    Contractor top dressed ours with a Bredal last year doesn’t add up to much with 24m spread width. By October wasn’t that noticeable in a mid July sown crop.

    Any idea what N you brought it up to..I'm afraid the advise where we got the seed was not the best.


  • #39
    Danzy
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    early_riser wrote: »
    Sowed 3 acres here 3 weeks ago that was grazed bare beforehand . Didnt bother spraying off, ploughed it(well tore it up best i could with a plough i pulled out ditch hasnt been used in 15+ years), grubbed it, broadcast seed, broadcast fert, light grub and rolled it. It looks same as stuff in pic in above post with no weeds to be seen yet so should stay ahead of them now. Rain badly now needed thou to keep it going.

    Have 5 acres to be cut next week going to chance sowing it the same way. Clear bales and plough straight away

    Fair pucks lad, your making it happen.

    If you have no weeds your ploughing was pretty enough.


  • #40
    grassroot1
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    alps wrote: »
    This is in 3 weeks. Advise was to give 18.6.12 at sowing and bring up to 100N after establishment.

    Back from hols now, but concerned . Could we damage the crop by driving on it, or could we damage it by fertiliser grains resting on the leaves?

    Hit it with the n you wont see the tyre marks by the time you are grazing it.Just be careful and dont dog the driving.
    The N will make a big difference to yield.Mine got 3 bags 10 10 20 and 2 of n as a top dressing sorry after that i did not spread the field with slurry first would have been a saving. Find p and k makes a difference


  • #41
    K.G.
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    early_riser wrote: »
    Sowed 3 acres here 3 weeks ago that was grazed bare beforehand . Didnt bother spraying off, ploughed it(well tore it up best i could with a plough i pulled out ditch hasnt been used in 15+ years), grubbed it, broadcast seed, broadcast fert, light grub and rolled it. It looks same as stuff in pic in above post with no weeds to be seen yet so should stay ahead of them now. Rain badly now needed thou to keep it going.

    Have 5 acres to be cut next week going to chance sowing it the same way. Clear bales and plough straight away

    Ah yeah if your ploughing work away but as i understand this guy is just chain harrowing or such. Around our way grass would pass it out at the moment.


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  • #42
    MF290
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    alps wrote: »
    Any idea what N you brought it up to..I'm afraid the advise where we got the seed was not the best.

    Up to 90. Got two bags of 10:10:20 at sowing.


  • #43
    kelslat
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    I sowed redstart last Saturday. A 20kg bag was put out on nearly 5 acres. The area was ploughed and harrowed. I spread 2 bags of 18-6-12 and 2 bags of granlime per acre as it was low
    in lime.
    The field is slightly low in p as well. Would 2 bags of leifi start per acre do in a couple of weeks time?


  • #44
    Dakota Dan
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    kelslat wrote: »
    I sowed redstart last Saturday. A 20kg bag was put out on nearly 5 acres. The area was ploughed and harrowed. I spread 2 bags of 18-6-12 and 2 bags of granlime per acre as it was low
    in lime.
    The field is slightly low in p as well. Would 2 bags of leifi start per acre do in a couple of weeks time?
    I used to top dress rape with 1 bag of can/acre at the 2 leaf stage.


  • #45
    alps
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    kelslat wrote: »
    I sowed redstart last Saturday. A 20kg bag was put out on nearly 5 acres. The area was ploughed and harrowed. I spread 2 bags of 18-6-12 and 2 bags of granlime per acre as it was low
    in lime.
    The field is slightly low in p as well. Would 2 bags of leifi start per acre do in a couple of weeks time?

    Advise I got was for 2 bags of 18.6.12 and tip up to 100N, however contractor threw a strip and made me put on 4 bags 18's, and I believe he was right..


  • #46
    Jimbo789
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    I sowed it last Saturday too. Had originally intended ploughing but with the ground being so hard and it getting late for sowing, I ended up discing instead. Was lowish in K here so put on 3 bags of 10-10-20 and going put on 2 bags of can in couple weeks.


  • #47
    kelslat
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    alps wrote: »
    Advise I got was for 2 bags of 18.6.12 and tip up to 100N, however contractor threw a strip and made me put on 4 bags 18's, and I believe he was right..

    I might have skimped on mine a bit so. Although 4 bags of 18-6-12 per acre seems like a lot at the one time. Should I top dress it with 3 bags of fertilizer in a couple of weeks instead?


  • #48
    charolais0153
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    kelslat wrote: »
    I might have skimped on mine a bit so. Although 4 bags of 18-6-12 per acre seems like a lot at the one time. Should I top dress it with 3 bags of fertilizer in a couple of weeks instead?

    Do it now. You wont be trampling the plants as much


  • #49
    Bass Reeves
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    alps wrote: »
    Advise I got was for 2 bags of 18.6.12 and tip up to 100N, however contractor threw a strip and made me put on 4 bags 18's, and I believe he was right..
    Jimbo789 wrote: »
    I sowed it last Saturday too. Had originally intended ploughing but with the ground being so hard and it getting late for sowing, I ended up discing instead. Was lowish in K here so put on 3 bags of 10-10-20 and going put on 2 bags of can in couple weeks.

    Kale set in May requires 80-100 units of N. Setting now you have only half the growing season. If it was me 50-60N will be plenty. Set some fodder rape nearly two weeks ago slow to germinate. This ground got N for second cut in June but gor no crop due to drought. I went with 2.5 bags of 18-6-12/acre and looking at rest of fields that got second cuts silage N it should be enough they are blue in colour.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #50
    GrasstoMilk
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    alps wrote: »
    This is in 3 weeks. Advise was to give 18.6.12 at sowing and bring up to 100N after establishment.

    Back from hols now, but concerned . Could we damage the crop by driving on it, or could we damage it by fertiliser grains resting on the leaves?

    definitely spread it on it. The plants will recover, you won't notice the tracks in a few weeks. It will only be s half crop if you don't put the N on it. Just be careful turning at the headlands so you don't rip it up. Anytime we sowed redstart it got 3 bags of 10 10 20 and top dressed with 2 bags of Can after. From memory our last crop yielded 6t/Ha


  • #51
    alps
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    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    definitely spread it on it. The plants will recover, you won't notice the tracks in a few weeks. It will only be s half crop if you don't put the N on it. Just be careful turning at the headlands so you don't rip it up. Anytime we sowed redstart it got 3 bags of 10 10 20 and top dressed with 2 bags of Can after. From memory our last crop yielded 6t/Ha

    Cheers....done this week...happy now


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